Gun owners, sign K-Mart petition

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I signed as well. One of the few reasons I shopped there was the cheap pistol ammunition. Normally I buy in cases of one thousand rounds or more, but it was nice to go there and pick up a couple of fifty round boxes when I ran out.
 

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DONE!

So you might think Wal-Mart is OK?

Ten years ago I almost bought a Ruger 10/22 from a local store. It was built for them by Ruger and was available only from Wal-Mart.

Upon buying it, the clerk made a copy of the Federal Form I filled out. I asked why the copy. I was told that ALL forms were forwarded to the State Police!

THAT, my friends, is a violation of my rights under the Constitution! I canceled the purchase and demanded my money back.

Although I buy a lot from them, I never buy from their Sports Department. NOTHING! And I tell them about it every chance I get.

 

tm37

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Is Kmart the only place that sells amunition? Is KMART RESPONSIBLE to provide you with inexpensive rounds? They are a retailer! They also don't sell alcohol, and when the misses don't get her OLD DOG SCOTCH she gets PRETTY PISSY! Come on this is one of those things that is really of little to no consiquence hardly anyone. Asfter reading the Petition I Think the Author BELEIVES that not only should I respect HIS right to own firearms HE BELEIVES THAT I SHOULD SUPPORT HIS GUN OWNERSHIP.

I am pro-gun but this is a bussiness coice by KMART and IT IS THERE RIGHT!

 
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KMart sells alcohol up here in Alaska. They were also one of the few KMarts selling handguns, but they quit after Columbine, although they claim that had nothing to do with it, the timing was a coincidence. :p Yeah, and Rosie O'Donnell is not a self-righteous cow, either.
 

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I would wager good money they are doing this because anti-gun activists are pressuring them to do so.
It is in the constitution that a person has a right to bear arms. Slowly that right is being taken away. I don't own a gun and may never own one but I do believe in the right for citizens to own one. While the argument that noone wants to invade a country where nearly every homeowner will meet your invasion with a gun doesn't hold true in these more peaceful times, it still holds true a burgular will think twice about breaking into your home, carjacking you, or attacking you, if they know you have a gun...
K-Mart needs to know that there are peaceful gun owners out there too.
 

yakko

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<< Gun owners, sign K-Mart petition >>

No. It is their business so it is their choice if the do not want to sell a certain product. I will still shop there instead of Wal-Mart every chance I get.
 

Tominator

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yakko Your choice. I've no problem with that.....nice to be alone while shopping sometimes...;)
 

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Yep, the creative far left has figured out guns turn into hammers without ammunition.

Of course, you should have a favorite gun shop, buy your ammo there &amp; support your local gunsmith (I just hosed one of my Glocks &amp; need to make a visit next week).
 
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This is ridiculous - they can sell (or not sell) whatever they want! I believe K-Mart is still the largest seller of guns in the world - they have obviously decided that it is no longer economically beneficial to sell ammunition, but I see no basis to believe this in any way undermines anyone's right to keep and bear arms. This is like saying that they are violating the First Amendment by declining to sell Juggs magazine.

Tominator:

Why do you say it violates your constitutional rights for Wal-Mart to send your federal forms to the State Police? I am not trying to joust with you at all - I was just curious what you were referring to.
 

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You can buy them elsewhere. A store can decide to sell whatever they want. They shouldn't be forced to sell or not sell guns, it should be their choice, that is the ecense of freedom.
 

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Don_Vito No problem in asking...

Congress has said to the effect that no public money can be used to keep any data base of gun owners or serial numbers of guns. Without some research, I can't quote, but it is a violation of the law. I've discussed this with the local NRA rep, but it is on the bottom of the list of things to oppose. The State Police are evidently keeping such a database in Illinois even after we are subjected to waiting periods and 'Gun Cards' that allready register the owners of guns...

...ans of course the most misuse of forearms in the State of Illinois are in Chicago and Cook County where guns are outlawed!
 

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<< And it is our right to boycott there decision >>



And mine to question your logic in doing so. Don't get me wrong I understand that is an incovenence, but How much additional training do they have to give there employees? How much do they sell and how much does it cost to pay that fool in the little gun glass area? There can be many many reasons for a company to stop selling weapons and the rounds needed to make thoose weapons leagal.

Now Walmart IN Alabama ( I think ) a few years back got sued for selling a rifle that a man used it less than two hours later to blow away his EX. The guy passed the state computer screen BUT hello he had a restraining order against his old lady. Now this was NOT on his checkout sheet that they ran through THE STATE SYSTEM. They did exactly what they should have done as per state law and got sued costing them THOUSANDS of dollars. ( I believe they settled with the family). Support your local gun shop. I am sure you have other places you can by ammo and guns. and IF the clothing there is any indication of the quality of their weapontry I would be very hesistant to USE IT!

 

kami

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Question... who gives a flying f*ck if you can buy your ammo at k-mart or not? There are plenty other places to buy it.

Oh and another thing... it's their store, they can sell whatever they damn well please. That little petition is gonna do dick all.
 

Gooberlx2

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and IF the clothing there is any indication of the quality of their weapontry I would be very hesistant to USE IT!

lol :)
 

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It really comes down to one word...Litigation!...That is how ALL the Liberal agenda comes about...
 
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<< Don_Vito No problem in asking...

Congress has said to the effect that no public money can be used to keep any data base of gun owners or serial numbers of guns. Without some research, I can't quote, but it is a violation of the law. I've discussed this with the local NRA rep, but it is on the bottom of the list of things to oppose. The State Police are evidently keeping such a database in Illinois even after we are subjected to waiting periods and 'Gun Cards' that allready register the owners of guns...

...ans of course the most misuse of forearms in the State of Illinois are in Chicago and Cook County where guns are outlawed!
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Hmmmm - I would be curious if such a law actually exists (though it may originate in some Supreme Court case that implicated the Second Amendment, rather than in a statute - this is the only way it would in fact have a constitutional, rather than statutory, basis). I have never heard of such a law but I guess it is possible, though any law that effectively restricts what a state can spend money on is likely on shaky constitutional ground itself. I would think if such a law existed, though, then Illinois' entire Firearm Owners' Identification Card requirement would also run afoul of it. I have to say I think it would be a Good Thing (capitalization intended) to have such a database, but I imagine most NRA types would beg to differ.
 

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During the Clinton administration this came to a head and was stated in just such terms as well as a threat to stop funding the same. Thank God for a Republican Congress! A dDemocrat Congress would adapt the Constitution, not READ IT!

Never in history has registration NOT led to confiscation.

It is of no useful purpose to let ANY government enitity know WHAT I have in my own home unless illegally obtained. After the fact and not before I might add..

 

classy

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hahahahahahaha Its only a matter of time. Gun ownership is going to radically change in the next few years. Glad to see Kmart is changing its policy. And I am glad you guys are boycotting. Then that way, since they won't be making any money on guns, they will just stop selling guns altogether. :D Just a brilliant plan on the part of gun owners.
 

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classy..Thaks for the encouragement! Nice to know we are moving in the right direction...:cool:
 

classy

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<< classy..Thaks for the encouragement! Nice to know we are moving in the right direction...:cool: >>



You know me. I am always willing to offer an encouraging word to a my fellow gun owning brothers. :)
 
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<< Never in history has registration NOT led to confiscation.

It is of no useful purpose to let ANY government enitity know WHAT I have in my own home unless illegally obtained. After the fact and not before I might add..
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What about here and now? Most states require gun registration, and none have headed in the direction of confiscating them. The countries that have confiscated guns (e.g., England, Australia) never had constitutional protection of gun ownership, as we do in the United States. I like guns and have no problem with people owning them, but it seems to me registration is useful and important in tracking guns (keep in mind, legally-owned guns ARE, believe it or not, often used by their true owners to commit crimes) and providing at least some measure of restriction on their unlawful transfer.

I don't want to open up a whole can of worms on this, and will respectfully bow out of any further comment.