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Gun guys your fantasy just became real

2A Proponents see this situation and fear being trapped there without a gun to defend themselves.
2A Opponents see this situation and imagine a world in which the public carries no guns.

Which one is the idealist, and which is the pragmatist?
Are other nations proof, that it can be reasonable to... let go of our fear?
 
America will only be safe when all the rednecks have killed each other off. We should really be handing guns out for free in red states to anybody who wants one. Give them the power to solve our problems for us
 
He needed to be shot because he was sprinting away on a broken leg.

that was just some other random fat redneck customer. Have you ever been to Oklahoma? I haven't but from the pictures I see on TV I believe the average BMI is somewhere north of 40.
 
America will only be safe when all the rednecks have killed each other off. We should really be handing guns out for free in red states to anybody who wants one. Give them the power to solve our problems for us

So you have nothing to contribute, and just spew hate?
 
So you have nothing to contribute, and just spew hate?

The irony hearing this from our resident excuse maker for killing babies and unarmed protestors. What was it you said? The baby was paying for its parents crimes?


yeah, something like that
 
When I first heard about this, I said "How in the Hell did he not get shot right there." Found out later he did. Based on local news, it sounds like it was after he was done shooting because he was shot outside and I think the shooting was done on the inside.

This is right by a very busy outdoor area, with tons of people around, which in Oklahoma means quite a few rednecks, plus the restaurant itself is always packed on nice evenings.
 
America will only be safe when all the rednecks have killed each other off. We should really be handing guns out for free in red states to anybody who wants one. Give them the power to solve our problems for us
Once all the rednecks are dead you'd have to go back to hating blacks and Jews. That's the down side when your personality is built around feeling superior to others. If you can't sneer at someone else you might end up looking into your own soul, and find it lacking.
 
Once all the rednecks are dead you'd have to go back to hating blacks and Jews. That's the down side when your personality is built around feeling superior to others. If you can't sneer at someone else you might end up looking into your own soul, and find it lacking.

FIVR isn't even in the US, he is just a troll and shifts positions constantly.
 
yeah, something like that

You responded, but once again it was to shitpost. There's a topic for Israel if you got something to say. How did it go... Palestinians' right to vengeance?. So first Israelis, now Rednecks. Who is it you want dead tomorrow?
 
Also why isn't America clicking on links about this to make it super trending? God damned liberal media conspiracy! That's why!
 
It's only liberal mythology (of which many idiots here are stepped in) which holds that it never happens. For everyone else, no suprise what-so-ever.

I'm not aware of a single person who thinks 'good guys with guns' never stop 'bad guys with guns'. Can you list those individuals who you believe do feel this way?

What they do (correctly) believe is that guns are used far more often to commit crimes than to prevent them and that a lot of 'defensive' gun use is actually criminal activity in and of itself, making guns a net negative from a crime/protection standpoint. This is because liberals are reality based when it comes to guns and conservatives live in a fantasy world.
 
so the gunman was done shooting, left the place, and some other person arrived on the scene in a car, pulled out his gun and shot the gunman? I mean, it doesn't sound like he stopped this guy from doing anything, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the gunman being killed.
 
Is CNN still liberal gun hating media?

Yes. The negative bias in the CNN article is obvious. Here are a few examples.

They used the term "gunned down" to describe the armed bystander shooting the shooter. That term has a negative connotation and is normally used when describing a "bad guy" shooting someone. You don't see it used to describe a "good guy" shooting a bad guy. The armed bystander warned the shooter multiple times before shooting and prevented him from shooting even more people.

They attacked the NRA within the first few paragraphs about a tweet and defending the gov vetoing a gun related bill. (I am not defending the NRA, I'm just pointing out the bias). Normally you don't see these types of references until the end of the article if at all. CNN purposely chose to place it at the beginning even before the details of the incident.

(CNN)An armed bystander gunned down a shooter Thursday at an Oklahoma City restaurant, killing him, police said.

The National Rifle Association quickly seized on the incident as "just another example of how the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," according to a tweet. The powerful gun rights lobbying group commonly touts the mantra as part of its strategy in the wake of gun violence to identify ways -- apart from restricting firearms -- to enhance public safety.

The NRA also took a swipe at Gov. Mary Fallin, who two weeks ago vetoed a bill that would have made Oklahoma the 13th state to let residents carry guns without a permit.
In explaining her veto, Fallin, a Republican, noted that the bill would have eliminated firearms training requirements and softened background check rules.
The bill "eliminates the current ability of Oklahoma law enforcement to distinguish between those carrying guns who have been trained and vetted, and those who have not," Fallin said,according to a statement.


From the article it sounds like the armed citizen had weapons training and gave the shooter ample warning before shooting. He kept the shooter from shooting anyone else. I wonder if we have another young white incel male going on a shooting spree?

"He was just a 20-something-year-old kid," Benton said, "Didn't look very old. He was wearing ear protection and eye protection that you would have at a shooting range."
Then, Benton told KFOR, he saw a car circle back after exiting Louie's parking lot.
"A guy jumped out of it and went for the back of his vehicle. I just assumed maybe it was an off-duty officer or something like that," he said. "It was just the way he moved, whoever it was. He just appeared to be somebody who had some training, some weapon training."
Benton pointed the man toward the shooter, he recalled.
"They were like, 'Stop! stop! stop! Please! Put the gun down! Please put the gun down!' And I was pointing at him, I was like 'Down! Put it down! Put it down!' and they wound up exchanging fire," Benton told KFOR.
But, he said, the shooter wouldn't drop his weapon.
"I popped my head up, and they had taken him down," Benton said, adding that he then told a police officer who'd arrived on the scene that the man who shot and killed the restaurant shooter was "'here to help,'" KFOR reported.
 
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so the gunman was done shooting, left the place, and some other person arrived on the scene in a car, pulled out his gun and shot the gunman? I mean, it doesn't sound like he stopped this guy from doing anything, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the gunman being killed.


CNN put the NRA stuff in the beginning of the article instead of the end so you probably didn't get far enough to read the eye witness account of the incident. I posted that above.
 
So vigilantes are a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place? Now people not only have to be worried about getting gunned down in school, movie theaters, college, etc. they now have to be worried about getting caught in the crossfire of a gun battle involving no officers. What a fucked up time we live in.

Also, does anyone care that this guy took it upon himself to become judge, jury and executioner while the suspect was fleeing and not actively shooting?
 
CNN put the NRA stuff in the beginning of the article instead of the end so you probably didn't get far enough to read the eye witness account of the incident. I posted that above.

I actually skipped that and read the parts that you posted before commenting. Not sure how the bystander account, that the shooter was fleeing the scene when some other dude drove up to shoot the guy is different from what I said? I was literally referencing exactly what you posted.

Anyway, again I have no sympathy for a dead psychopath, I'm just not sure that a vengeance killing is any kind of real argument for "good guy with a gun," especially seeing as how he arrived after everything happened.
 
I actually skipped that and read the parts that you posted before commenting. Not sure how the bystander account, that the shooter was fleeing the scene when some other dude drove up to shoot the guy is different from what I said? I was literally referencing exactly what you posted.

Anyway, again I have no sympathy for a dead psychopath, I'm just not sure that a vengeance killing is any kind of real argument for "good guy with a gun," especially seeing as how he arrived after everything happened.


If you read the witness account then you know the dude didn't just drive up and shoot the guy as a vengeance killing. If you do then you are being deliberately obtuse. The armed bystander was in the process of leaving the parking lot of the restaurant when he saw what was happening. Instead of leaving other innocent people to be shot he chose to turn around and confront the shooter knowing he himself maybe be shot and killed if he did this. He and others gave the shooter ample warning to drop his weapon. The shooter made the decision not to drop his weapon and he started shooting at the armed bystander. The armed bystander returned fire.
 
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