some of u here have to realize that fbb's closest encounter to a gun was probably at his friends house looking at them in the gun case.... he most likely has no idea wtf to o with one...
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glock is by far the best small pistol for self defense. the big advantage is the fact that it is one of the few pistols that can be drawn and fired without the worry of a safety or having to cock the pistol like a revolver. glock has also improved the safety of the holstered pistol, making it safe all the way around.
any of the subcompacts, the g26(9mm), g27(40),g30(45),g31(357), g32(357 magnum) are all great pistols. i would recommend the g26 over the others for control and capacity. using a standard mag with the handle extender, you get a very capable pistol for self defense at close range, and reliability. while the bigger caliber pistols have more stopping power, they offer less control for an inexperienced shooter.
The 26 is also a very easy pistol to conceal. even with the standard mag you get 10+1 shots. It is more then enough of a detterent for wildlife, and very capable as a deterrent for the human kind too.
as far as carrying a concealed weapon, be sure to know the laws. in some states if private property puts up signs, if you are caught carrying a concealed weapon, you can face charges. they may only be misdemeanor, but they are still charges. Plus, some states will put you on a person of interest list that the police can access and treat you as a threat if pulled over. Thanks colorado.
any of the subcompacts, the g26(9mm), g27(40),g30(45),g31(357), g32(357 magnum) are all great pistols. i would recommend the g26 over the others for control and capacity. using a standard mag with the handle extender, you get a very capable pistol for self defense at close range, and reliability. while the bigger caliber pistols have more stopping power, they offer less control for an inexperienced shooter.
The 26 is also a very easy pistol to conceal. even with the standard mag you get 10+1 shots. It is more then enough of a detterent for wildlife, and very capable as a deterrent for the human kind too.
as far as carrying a concealed weapon, be sure to know the laws. in some states if private property puts up signs, if you are caught carrying a concealed weapon, you can face charges. they may only be misdemeanor, but they are still charges. Plus, some states will put you on a person of interest list that the police can access and treat you as a threat if pulled over. Thanks colorado.
The best way may be here. Apply for CCW in a state that has reciprocity with a lot of other states. Utah is a good one. Otherwise look into open carry laws and other associated laws detailing the manner of carry for each state here: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/.
oh, sorry, i forgot to add. if you plan on camping in national parks in a tent you might want to rethink carrying a pistol. federal laws regarding firearms in national parks aren't as forgiving as county and state laws.
over the last two years, i have spent 13 months hiking and camping all over the US and not once needed my pistol. On the AT i did not carry it, of course, but we did have it in our RV this year.
i live in the mountains and we have frequent visits at our house by mountain lions and bears, and as long as you don't rub food all over yourself or impede on them, they'll leave you alone.
unless you walk into a grizzly protecting a fresh kill, you are pretty safe when hiking and camping as long as you follow basic hiking rules regarding safety and food control.
The whole time on the AT, never had a worry. If you do the PCT, might be different, encroachment by people has forced the kittys there to react different to people.
Word of advice, if you are attacked by a cougar, hope whoever you are with has a pistol. You most likely won't see the attack coming, and once involved, the pistol will probably be the last thing on your mind.
Here is a pic from our first snow this year, and our first visitor tracks:
cat tracks in driveway
Plus, let me add this about gun safety and use. While anyone can carry a gun, it takes a lot to actually understand the impact of pulling the trigger, and the repercussions of actually using the weapon to kill something in a moment of heightened stress. it is not easy, and is something that can stick with you for a long time. Do as much range time as you can and learn from someone experienced, glad to hear you have a police friend. You should never have to rely on a weapon when encountering wildlife, a lot of people run into bears and other animals every day and walk away without conflict. if you go into it with a gun thinking it will protect you, most likely you will adversly impact the enviroment and you also could face charges if you kill a bear or mountain lion even if you were under threat.
Here in colorado a lot is weighed into home break ins of wild animals, and if you kill a bear that comes into your house, the local law enforcement and the dow look at it and consider if it was justified, and have the ability to press charges if they don't feel it was justified. I don't remember any recent times when someone was charged, but it can happen.
over the last two years, i have spent 13 months hiking and camping all over the US and not once needed my pistol. On the AT i did not carry it, of course, but we did have it in our RV this year.
i live in the mountains and we have frequent visits at our house by mountain lions and bears, and as long as you don't rub food all over yourself or impede on them, they'll leave you alone.
unless you walk into a grizzly protecting a fresh kill, you are pretty safe when hiking and camping as long as you follow basic hiking rules regarding safety and food control.
The whole time on the AT, never had a worry. If you do the PCT, might be different, encroachment by people has forced the kittys there to react different to people.
Word of advice, if you are attacked by a cougar, hope whoever you are with has a pistol. You most likely won't see the attack coming, and once involved, the pistol will probably be the last thing on your mind.
Here is a pic from our first snow this year, and our first visitor tracks:
cat tracks in driveway
Plus, let me add this about gun safety and use. While anyone can carry a gun, it takes a lot to actually understand the impact of pulling the trigger, and the repercussions of actually using the weapon to kill something in a moment of heightened stress. it is not easy, and is something that can stick with you for a long time. Do as much range time as you can and learn from someone experienced, glad to hear you have a police friend. You should never have to rely on a weapon when encountering wildlife, a lot of people run into bears and other animals every day and walk away without conflict. if you go into it with a gun thinking it will protect you, most likely you will adversly impact the enviroment and you also could face charges if you kill a bear or mountain lion even if you were under threat.
Here in colorado a lot is weighed into home break ins of wild animals, and if you kill a bear that comes into your house, the local law enforcement and the dow look at it and consider if it was justified, and have the ability to press charges if they don't feel it was justified. I don't remember any recent times when someone was charged, but it can happen.
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Amused
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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
ah, yes. the ppk/s is also one of the guns that fits me very well
You cannot do much better than a PPK/S for a compact sidearm. One of the most accurate and reliable small handguns I've ever owned.
I strongly suggest it.
about the ppk/s , with your choice of 32 or 380, be sure to carry two extra magazines and if approached by a wild animal fire as many shots in the air as possible, reloading as needed and scream and wave your arms. the noise should do it because it's doubtful the bullets would.
on the positive, you can pretend your bond, james bond.
on the positive, you can pretend your bond, james bond.
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this...only because OP isn't mature enough and will shoot himself in the foot.
If you don't have anything useful to say and just want to call the OP names, how about you refrain from posting.
esquared
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Reworded. Seriously don't think he is mature enough for a firearm, that isn't namecalling...this is an attempt to keep him out of the ER.
Check out the Taurus Millennium Pro PT140 (or PT145 if you prefer .45s). I can't stand larger or blockish weapons, so I finally found this gem. Best concealable handgun I've ever used, hands down.
there is an inherent problem with the 380. it just lacks power. sure, it works against a person. even a .22 will work against a person. when it comes to animals, it lacks. it just doesn't get the job done in ALL situations.
here is a nice comparison between 380 and 9mm with tables and all.
shooting times article
you said it right, 380 is a compromise. i am not crapping on it, i am just stating 380 for what it is, and if your life depends on it, there should not be compromise.
However, if you feel secure that 380 is more then enough to stop any threat you may encounter, have at it.
115 grains max, heck, i run through boxes of 115 all the time as a minimum at the range. 124 for home defense.
My experience begs to differ.
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My point is he's a little guy with small hands looking for a weapon he can CW.
Yes, the .380 is a compromise, but in his situation, probably the best option.
If he wants a carry weapon for the woods, a full size .45 or better would be ideal. But he wants something for both.
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