Originally posted by: AmigaMan
I went one time with a good friend and we shot some clay targets with his 16 gauge which was loads of fun. I also found out I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with his 30-06. But I'd only shot one of them beasts once before and wasn't used to the recoil.
Originally posted by: K1052
Ruger 10/22 hands down.
Where do you people come from? Seriously...Originally posted by: sao123
A 22 likely wont stop anyone who is trying to harm you...
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
we all start somewhere. I'm sure you didn't start out hitting the bulls-eye in every target you shot. Then again, this is ATOT where everyone is married to a supermodel, has perfect accuracy, can afford million dollar homes, drives hundred thousand dollar cars and can afford the latest and greatest toys. :roll:
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
we all start somewhere. I'm sure you didn't start out hitting the bulls-eye in every target you shot. Then again, this is ATOT where everyone is married to a supermodel, has perfect accuracy, can afford million dollar homes, drives hundred thousand dollar cars and can afford the latest and greatest toys. :roll:
absolutely not, you dont become a good shot overnight. It took me about 3 years of weekly practice to become the shooter I am now. However... what I didnt do... is purchase a firearm with the intent of using it for self defense during my learning time.
Until you actually feel comfortable shooting it, and can hit a moving target with accuracy, a gun used in defense is more likely to hinder your self defense than aid it...
It could either be a distraction and keep you from taking quick responce action when necessary, or you and your attacker might struggle close and it go off accidentally....
Eitehr way until you have a few years of shooting, you'll still need some other immediate defense mechanism...
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
we all start somewhere. I'm sure you didn't start out hitting the bulls-eye in every target you shot. Then again, this is ATOT where everyone is married to a supermodel, has perfect accuracy, can afford million dollar homes, drives hundred thousand dollar cars and can afford the latest and greatest toys. :roll:
absolutely not, you dont become a good shot overnight. It took me about 3 years of weekly practice to become the shooter I am now. However... what I didnt do... is purchase a firearm with the intent of using it for self defense during my learning time.
Until you actually feel comfortable shooting it, and can hit a moving target with accuracy, a gun used in defense is more likely to hinder your self defense than aid it...
It could either be a distraction and keep you from taking quick responce action when necessary, or you and your attacker might struggle close and it go off accidentally....
Eitehr way until you have a few years of shooting, you'll still need some other immediate defense mechanism...
What a total crock of bullshit.
It does not take years of practice to be able to defend yourself adequately with a firearm, especially if someone knowledgeable helps you out in the beginning. Within a couple months of having my first gun and some regular practice I was comfortable with using it for defense and the guy who originally taught me (ex army ranger) agreed that I could handle it.
Stop beating up on the OP like you know everything.
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
we all start somewhere. I'm sure you didn't start out hitting the bulls-eye in every target you shot. Then again, this is ATOT where everyone is married to a supermodel, has perfect accuracy, can afford million dollar homes, drives hundred thousand dollar cars and can afford the latest and greatest toys. :roll:
absolutely not, you dont become a good shot overnight. It took me about 3 years of weekly practice to become the shooter I am now. However... what I didnt do... is purchase a firearm with the intent of using it for self defense during my learning time.
Until you actually feel comfortable shooting it, and can hit a moving target with accuracy, a gun used in defense is more likely to hinder your self defense than aid it...
It could either be a distraction and keep you from taking quick responce action when necessary, or you and your attacker might struggle close and it go off accidentally....
Eitehr way until you have a few years of shooting, you'll still need some other immediate defense mechanism...
What a total crock of bullshit.
It does not take years of practice to be able to defend yourself adequately with a firearm, especially if someone knowledgeable helps you out in the beginning. Within a couple months of having my first gun and some regular practice I was comfortable with using it for defense and the guy who originally taught me (ex army ranger) agreed that I could handle it.
Stop beating up on the OP like you know everything.
but this is OT, we DO know everything!
I agree, it may take years to become a great marksman, but it doesn't take years to learn how to shoot a gun properly and be able to hit a target.
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
we all start somewhere. I'm sure you didn't start out hitting the bulls-eye in every target you shot. Then again, this is ATOT where everyone is married to a supermodel, has perfect accuracy, can afford million dollar homes, drives hundred thousand dollar cars and can afford the latest and greatest toys. :roll:
absolutely not, you dont become a good shot overnight. It took me about 3 years of weekly practice to become the shooter I am now. However... what I didnt do... is purchase a firearm with the intent of using it for self defense during my learning time.
Until you actually feel comfortable shooting it, and can hit a moving target with accuracy, a gun used in defense is more likely to hinder your self defense than aid it...
It could either be a distraction and keep you from taking quick responce action when necessary, or you and your attacker might struggle close and it go off accidentally....
Eitehr way until you have a few years of shooting, you'll still need some other immediate defense mechanism...
What a total crock of bullshit.
It does not take years of practice to be able to defend yourself adequately with a firearm, especially if someone knowledgeable helps you out in the beginning. Within a couple months of having my first gun and some regular practice I was comfortable with using it for defense and the guy who originally taught me (ex army ranger) agreed that I could handle it.
Stop beating up on the OP like you know everything.
but this is OT, we DO know everything!
I agree, it may take years to become a great marksman, but it doesn't take years to learn how to shoot a gun properly and be able to hit a target.
quite a difference between being able to take your time and hit a paper target on a wall 25 yards away consistently... and being able to be woke up in the middle of the night panic stricken and trying to find your gun, load it, and shoot someone in the dark, while they are stealing your stuff, or running at you with a knife from your own kitchen.
IMO...People who want self defense should go take martial arts... not buy a gun.
Originally posted by: alexeikgb
Henry 22 is a POS... it feels cheap and crappy... def. go with ruger 10/22 there are a lot of custom parts around so if u want u can always alter it to your liking.
Originally posted by: sao123
quite a difference between being able to take your time and hit a paper target on a wall 25 yards away consistently... and being able to be woke up in the middle of the night panic stricken and trying to find your gun, load it, and shoot someone in the dark, while they are stealing your stuff, or running at you with a knife from your own kitchen.
IMO...People who want self defense should go take martial arts... not buy a gun.
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
we all start somewhere. I'm sure you didn't start out hitting the bulls-eye in every target you shot. Then again, this is ATOT where everyone is married to a supermodel, has perfect accuracy, can afford million dollar homes, drives hundred thousand dollar cars and can afford the latest and greatest toys. :roll:
absolutely not, you dont become a good shot overnight. It took me about 3 years of weekly practice to become the shooter I am now. However... what I didnt do... is purchase a firearm with the intent of using it for self defense during my learning time.
Until you actually feel comfortable shooting it, and can hit a moving target with accuracy, a gun used in defense is more likely to hinder your self defense than aid it...
It could either be a distraction and keep you from taking quick responce action when necessary, or you and your attacker might struggle close and it go off accidentally....
Eitehr way until you have a few years of shooting, you'll still need some other immediate defense mechanism...
What a total crock of bullshit.
It does not take years of practice to be able to defend yourself adequately with a firearm, especially if someone knowledgeable helps you out in the beginning. Within a couple months of having my first gun and some regular practice I was comfortable with using it for defense and the guy who originally taught me (ex army ranger) agreed that I could handle it.
Stop beating up on the OP like you know everything.
but this is OT, we DO know everything!
I agree, it may take years to become a great marksman, but it doesn't take years to learn how to shoot a gun properly and be able to hit a target.
quite a difference between being able to take your time and hit a paper target on a wall 25 yards away consistently... and being able to be woke up in the middle of the night panic stricken and trying to find your gun, load it, and shoot someone in the dark, while they are stealing your stuff, or running at you with a knife from your own kitchen.
IMO...People who want self defense should go take martial arts... not buy a gun.
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
we all start somewhere. I'm sure you didn't start out hitting the bulls-eye in every target you shot. Then again, this is ATOT where everyone is married to a supermodel, has perfect accuracy, can afford million dollar homes, drives hundred thousand dollar cars and can afford the latest and greatest toys. :roll:
absolutely not, you dont become a good shot overnight. It took me about 3 years of weekly practice to become the shooter I am now. However... what I didnt do... is purchase a firearm with the intent of using it for self defense during my learning time.
Until you actually feel comfortable shooting it, and can hit a moving target with accuracy, a gun used in defense is more likely to hinder your self defense than aid it...
It could either be a distraction and keep you from taking quick responce action when necessary, or you and your attacker might struggle close and it go off accidentally....
Eitehr way until you have a few years of shooting, you'll still need some other immediate defense mechanism...
What a total crock of bullshit.
It does not take years of practice to be able to defend yourself adequately with a firearm, especially if someone knowledgeable helps you out in the beginning. Within a couple months of having my first gun and some regular practice I was comfortable with using it for defense and the guy who originally taught me (ex army ranger) agreed that I could handle it.
Stop beating up on the OP like you know everything.
but this is OT, we DO know everything!
I agree, it may take years to become a great marksman, but it doesn't take years to learn how to shoot a gun properly and be able to hit a target.
quite a difference between being able to take your time and hit a paper target on a wall 25 yards away consistently... and being able to be woke up in the middle of the night panic stricken and trying to find your gun, load it, and shoot someone in the dark, while they are stealing your stuff, or running at you with a knife from your own kitchen.
IMO...People who want self defense should go take martial arts... not buy a gun.
most self defense scenarios happen so quickly youd be hard pressed to get a gun out of the holster by the time you needed it... this is also why i carry a quick knife on my side as well as having a 4D mag (aka club) sitting next to my bed where my hand naturally falls. ive had to pull my gun twice in my life in self defense, and both times ended without firing. ive had to beat someone down way more than that in my quests for fun, never even having the time or space to draw a weapon. but ill tell ya, a 2AA minimag sure does the trick in a pinch, was as effective as stabbing them and i didnt have to explain much to the cops.
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
awesome guys! Thanks for ALL of the responses. I think I'll go find a gun shop around here and get a feel for the Ruger and Marlin if they have one.
As for everyone who said the .22 isn't a personal defense weapon, I agree and as I stated earlier, that won't be it's primary purpose. But, if I do have to defend myself, which would you rather have, a 3 D-cell MagLite or a .22? Because that's all I have and all I'll be getting. I can't break down a shotgun for portability (although it is a great choice and one I'll consider later), I won't get a handgun, and everything else is way out of my budget. Dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a gun enthusiast! Forgive me if I don't see things the way you guys do.
With your gun skills the (world + dog + you) might be safer if you just had a crowbar, tire iron, baseball bat, pepper spray!!!
we all start somewhere. I'm sure you didn't start out hitting the bulls-eye in every target you shot. Then again, this is ATOT where everyone is married to a supermodel, has perfect accuracy, can afford million dollar homes, drives hundred thousand dollar cars and can afford the latest and greatest toys. :roll:
absolutely not, you dont become a good shot overnight. It took me about 3 years of weekly practice to become the shooter I am now. However... what I didnt do... is purchase a firearm with the intent of using it for self defense during my learning time.
Until you actually feel comfortable shooting it, and can hit a moving target with accuracy, a gun used in defense is more likely to hinder your self defense than aid it...
It could either be a distraction and keep you from taking quick responce action when necessary, or you and your attacker might struggle close and it go off accidentally....
Eitehr way until you have a few years of shooting, you'll still need some other immediate defense mechanism...
What a total crock of bullshit.
It does not take years of practice to be able to defend yourself adequately with a firearm, especially if someone knowledgeable helps you out in the beginning. Within a couple months of having my first gun and some regular practice I was comfortable with using it for defense and the guy who originally taught me (ex army ranger) agreed that I could handle it.
Stop beating up on the OP like you know everything.
but this is OT, we DO know everything!
I agree, it may take years to become a great marksman, but it doesn't take years to learn how to shoot a gun properly and be able to hit a target.
quite a difference between being able to take your time and hit a paper target on a wall 25 yards away consistently... and being able to be woke up in the middle of the night panic stricken and trying to find your gun, load it, and shoot someone in the dark, while they are stealing your stuff, or running at you with a knife from your own kitchen.
IMO...People who want self defense should go take martial arts... not buy a gun.
most self defense scenarios happen so quickly youd be hard pressed to get a gun out of the holster by the time you needed it... this is also why i carry a quick knife on my side as well as having a 4D mag (aka club) sitting next to my bed where my hand naturally falls. ive had to pull my gun twice in my life in self defense, and both times ended without firing. ive had to beat someone down way more than that in my quests for fun, never even having the time or space to draw a weapon. but ill tell ya, a 2AA minimag sure does the trick in a pinch, was as effective as stabbing them and i didnt have to explain much to the cops.
:thumbsup:
finally someone else with some common sense...