Gun control in GA

highland145

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5 out of 6. :thumbsup:

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/mother-of-two-surprises-burglar-with-five-gunshots/nTnGR/
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The Loganville mother of two assumed the knocks on her front door Friday afternoon were from a solicitor.
“Don’t answer,” she yelled to her 9-year-old twins playing downstairs.
When the visitor began repeatedly ringing the doorbell, she called her husband at work.
“Get the kids and hide,” he told his wife.
As he dialed 911, his 37-year-old spouse, who works from home, collected the children and hid with them in a crawlspace adjoining her office. By that time, the intruder had forced his way into the three-story residence on Henderson Ridge Drive with a crowbar, authorities said. He allegedly rummaged through the home, eventually working his way up to the attic office.
“He opens the closet door and finds himself staring down the barrel of a .38 revolver,” said Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman, who relayed the woman’s narrative to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. He asked that her name be withheld.
The woman fired six bullets, five of which hit Paul Ali Slater in the face and neck area, Chapman said. But Slater was still conscious.
“The guy’s face down, crying,” the sheriff said. The woman told him to stay down or she’d shoot again.
Slater, unaware that she had emptied her chamber, obliged as the mother and her children ran to a neighbor’s house.
The injured burglar eventually made it out of the home and into his car, driving away before deputies arrived on the scene. He didn’t get far.
“When you got five bullets in you, it makes you kind of disoriented,” Chapman told the AJC.
Deputies found Slater bleeding profusely in a neighbor’s driveway.
“I’m dying. Help me,” he told them, according to Chapman.
Slater was transported to Gwinnett Medical Center and is expected to survive, the sheriff said.
The Long Island native, who now lives in Gwinnett County, was released from the Gwinnett jail in late August after serving six months for simple battery and three counts of probation violation. Slater has six other arrests in Gwinnett dating back to 2008, according to jail records.
“My wife’s a hero,” the woman’s husband, Donnie Herman, told Channel 2 Action News in a brief statement. He did not respond to a request for comment from the AJC. “She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to do.”
Chapman remarked that one of his deputies, impressed with the woman’s resolve, told the sheriff she had handled her first shooting better than he had.
“That mother’s instinct kicked in,” Chapman said. “You go after a mother’s kids and she’ll find herself capable of doing things she never thought she was capable of.”
Needs better ammo though.


Saw this over the weekend. Shamelessly stole the link out of the GZ. Thanks, monovillage
 
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LTC8K6

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Needs to practice more because she must have mostly grazed him. A .38 special to the head or heart from closet range will most certainly drop you on the spot.
 

highland145

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Poor lady is going to be sued now lol. Always finish the job :p
Finish the job while he's on the ground? Uh, nope.

She won't be sued.
A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's unlawful entry into or attack upon a habitation; however, such person is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if: (1) The entry is made or attempted in a violent and tumultuous manner and he or she reasonably believes that the entry is attempted or made for the purpose of assaulting or offering personal violence to any person dwelling or being therein and that such force is necessary to prevent the assault or offer of personal violence; (2) That force is used against another person who is not a member of the family or household and who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence and the person using such force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred; or (3) The person using such force reasonably believes that the entry is made or attempted for the purpose of committing a felony therein and that such force is necessary to prevent the commission of the felony. In addition to the above rights, a person acting in compliance with Section 16-3-23: "has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use force as provided in . . . Code section[ 16-3-23], including deadly force."

I love castle laws.
 
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She was not beaten to within one punch of death, thus was not in threat of her life.


Where are the pictures of her injuries??
 

Nintendesert

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Needs to practice more because she must have mostly grazed him. A .38 special to the head or heart from closet range will most certainly drop you on the spot.



It's why you aim center mass. If you miss you aren't grazing skull, you're shooting lungs, stomach, vital organs. Regardless, she did a great job defending her kids and herself from the intruder. :thumbsup:
 

HumblePie

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Read this earlier this weekend on other sites. Basically the lady had a 6 round revolver and landed 5 out of 6 directly to the guys face at practically point blank distance. Even still, the guy didn't die, but stopped trying to attack at least. So she and the kids were able to run after that to a neighbors house.

But THIS is the reason why higher capacity magazines are needed sometimes. The human body, especially males, can be fairly big and good at taking trauma before finally forced to stop. It is not unknown for assailants to take 4, 5, 6 or more shots from 9mm and smaller calibers and still manage to get to the person shooting them and kill that person. So if you are defending yourself with a 6 round revolver, unload all your shots and the guy is still not down or stopped then you might be screwed. It's happened plenty of times. On top of that, rarely does a person land 5 out 6 shots on a perp. Cops statistically for example are lucky to land 1 out of 6.
 

PokerGuy

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This is pretty much what every anti-gun-zealot disdains the most , a person who correctly was able to use her right to be armed to defend herself and her family from a criminal. Obviously, we need more gun control so people like her are defenseless against criminals in the future.
 

phucheneh

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Finish the job while he's on the ground? Uh, nope.

We've had this discussion. When someone says something like that, they generally mean 'should've done a proper job of shooting him while he was standing.' Not 'should've curb-stomped him.'

Also, this story is kind of weird, anyway. Sounds like the guy was looking for an empty house and would've just gone away if she had made any indication that she was there. Instead she panicked because a black man was at the door (was he black? I assume we're assuming he was black).
 
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We've had this discussion. When someone says something like that, they generally mean 'should've done a proper job of shooting him while he was standing.' Not 'should've curb-stomped him.'

Also, this story is kind of weird, anyway. Sounds like the guy was looking for an empty house and would've just gone away if she had made any indication that she was there. Instead she panicked because a black man was at the door (was he black? I assume we're assuming he was black).


Ok so instead of her having the element of surprise she should've called out "Go away I'm armed!".

Then the burglar breaks in knowing there will be a fight and/or gun, and is better prepared to tie her and the kids up, rape them, then shoot them all.
 

clamum

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A little surprised 5 shots of .38 didn't kill him sooner especially since they were to the face and neck. But people can still keep going for about 15 seconds or so after a direct heart shot if their brain is fully oxygenated, so it's not totally surprising.

Good on her for defending herself and kids. :thumbsup:
 

Phoenix86

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This is pretty much what every anti-gun-zealot disdains the most , a person who correctly was able to use her right to be armed to defend herself and her family from a criminal. Obviously, we need more gun control so people like her are defenseless against criminals in the future.
It's disgusting how people on both sides drool over either this or Newtown type situations. There are ways to justify positions without wanting extreme cases to happen to back up a given argument.
 

PokerGuy

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It's disgusting how people on both sides drool over either this or Newtown type situations. There are ways to justify positions without wanting extreme cases to happen to back up a given argument.

....except this is not an "extreme case". The fact is that she's alive and unharmed today because she was armed and ready to use the weapon to defend her family. That's a good thing all around. In contrast, the Newton event was a tragedy that anti-gun-zealots want to exploit to push their agenda, even if the things they want to do would have had no impact on the tragedy even had they been previously implemented.

<-- not a 'gun nut', I don't own a gun.