Gun+ammo sales WAY up.

[Jhhnn]

Press didn't consist of radio, TV, ant Internet then. Not different at all, except to a gun grabber. What should I expect though? Good luck if society breaks down and people come after you and your family/resources.

I didn't say there should be no extras. I just pointed out that they are extras. The only potential I see for a breakdown of society comes from the Bundy militia & similar mowrons. Maybe they'll occupy the White House if Trump loses, huh?

 

[Thunder 57]

I didn't say there should be no extras. I just pointed out that they are extras. The only potential I see for a breakdown of society comes from the Bundy militia & similar mowrons. Maybe they'll occupy the White House if Trump loses, huh?

This virus could certainly cause a breakdown. Far too soon to tell. Why do you think gun + ammo sales are way up though? A lot of people don't trust the government in times of chaos. Look at the LA Riots. That would be nothing if this gets out of hand. Then there is the person who simply wants a means to self defense of their home/family during normal times. The Constitution guarantees that. If you don't like it, there is a method to amend it.

 

[UberNeuman]

This virus could certainly cause a breakdown. Far too soon to tell. Why do you think gun + ammo sales are way up though? A lot of people don't trust the government in times of chaos. Look at the LA Riots. That would be nothing if this gets out of hand. Then there is the person who simply wants a means to self defense of their home/family during normal times. The Constitution guarantees that. If you don't like it, there is a method to amend it.

AHHHHH!!!!! a freak show for those seeking it. You're not mentally well. Once this outbreak subsides, you should seek treatment for it.

 

[Paratus]

People need to understand that everything has a cost. That the benefit of electing politicians who would stop the Dems from taking guns like Obama did was worth losing your investments, your job, and your parents. It’s a small price to pay to crash the economy and risk 10,000’s of deaths so you can defend your family and keep them safe.

 

[UberNeuman]

People need to understand that everything has a cost. That the benefit of electing politicians who would stop the Dems from taking guns like Obama did was worth losing your investments, your job, and your parents. It’s a small price to pay to crash the economy and risk 10,000’s of deaths so you can defend your family and keep them safe.

minus the not taking "guns".

 

[Thunder 57]

AHHHHH!!!!! a freak show for those seeking it. You're not mentally well. Once this outbreak subsides, you should seek treatment for it.

Not mentally well for using common sense and wouldn't mind being able to defend myself should law enforcement not be able to? For suggesting there is means to amend the Constitution? I have to disagree; You are not mentally well. I'd rather have a firearm and not need it, than not have one and need it.

People need to understand that everything has a cost. That the benefit of electing politicians who would stop the Dems from taking guns like Obama did was worth losing your investments, your job, and your parents. It’s a small price to pay to crash the economy and risk 10,000’s of deaths so you can defend your family and keep them safe.

No one could have seen the economy crashing because of a 100 year pandemic. The economy was doing great prior to the virus. That's like people shouldn't live in San Francisco or other parts of California because an earthquake will wipe them out one day.

minus the not taking "guns".

What Democrat primary candidate didn't want to reduce gun-owners rights? As I recall they were all against semi-auto period. Some wanted to grab them all or so it sounded. A bolt action, lever action, pump action is not a great defense compared to a semi auto handgun/AR intruder(s).

 

[shortylickens]

Reducing gun-owner rights is not the same as confiscating guns.
NONE of the Dems advocated that. It was always extreme fringe groups with no political clout.
You know who did restrict gun rights?
Ronald Reagan.
Know why?
Negroes were buying firearms in California.

 

[Thunder 57]

As for "mentally well", maybe you should look at these two links:

Protests against Barack Obama - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Timeline of protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sounds to me the left is far more unhinged and prone to violence. Certainly not "mentally well".

 

[Paladin3]

I take a more contextual approach. To the Founders, "Arms" were black powder flintlocks & had been for 150 years. That's what they were talking about. So long as you can bear those the intent of the Founders will be fulfilled. Everything else is extra.

Black powder flintlocks like the Brown Bess and such were the military arms of the times and the founders were fine with seeing them in civilian hands. In fact, they expressly said the right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed.

But, if no new technology is covered by The Constitution, and we have to stop constitutional rights at 1776, I guess we have no freedom from persecution by the government if we express our 1st amendment protected ideas via the Internet or other modern electronic means. 'Cause everything else is extra, right.

 

[Thunder 57]

Reducing gun-owner rights is not the same as confiscating guns.
NONE of the Dems advocated that. It was always extreme fringe groups with no political clout.
You know who did restrict gun rights?
Ronald Reagan.
Know why?
Negroes were buying firearms in California.

We've been reducing gun owner rights for nearly a century. Where does it stop? And RR made mistakes, including gun rights and amnesty.

 

[Paladin3]

I don't know much about US history, but when was the last time civilians had to take up arms against the government since the 1776?

My house has never burned down, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to see fire extinguishers banned.

 

[Svnla]

A whole lot of things will have run out by the time I run out of ammo 😉

Don't forget the ability to reload ammo.

As another poster said, you do not need to shoot all the looters and rioters, just drop a few of them and the rest will be like cock roaches and run away.

I do not need to remind everyone about the LA riot (Rodney King). Remember how armed Korean merchants were able to stop the rioters and looters and saved their businesses from all the looting and burning and destruction while the unarmed owners waited and waited and waited in vain for the police and firefighters to come and rescue and no one came and their businesses burned to the ground. Hummm..since when Korean merchants had anything to do with the beat up of Rodney King? Withdraw.

 

[UberNeuman]

Not mentally well for using common sense and wouldn't mind being able to defend myself should law enforcement not be able to? For suggesting there is means to amend the Constitution? I have to disagree; You are not mentally well. I'd rather have a firearm and not need it, than not have one and need it.



No one could have seen the economy crashing because of a 100 year pandemic. The economy was doing great prior to the virus. That's like people shouldn't live in San Francisco or other parts of California because an earthquake will wipe them out one day.



What Democrat primary candidate didn't want to reduce gun-owners rights? As I recall they were all against semi-auto period. Some wanted to grab them all or so it sounded. A bolt action, lever action, pump action is not a great defense compared to a semi auto handgun/AR intruder(s).

Everything you've just posted is clearly signs of your maniacal perceptions of reality.

 

[Paladin3]

Apples & oranges. Freedom of speech & the press is covered under the First Amendment. It's a whole different kind of a concept. Except when the press is the enemy of the people, of course.

Every portion and amendment in the U.S. Constitution carry the same weight of law. No constitutional right is less legit than the others. Unless you have the votes and political will to change The Constitution, we can't pick and choose which parts we will obey, nor can we make laws that attempt to violate it.

 

[Thunder 57]

Everything you've just posted is clearly signs of your maniacal perceptions of reality.

At least I'm making arguments rather than saying I'm not "mentally well" or having "maniacal perceptions of reality". I guess that's because when you lose the argument you just you know, attack the opponent? You do you, I'll do me. I would rather be prepared whether that includes food, water, medicine, and firearms than trust people who have nothing and are desperate to find resources to live.

Or, in normal cases, bad guys trying to plunder, rape, or murder for whatever reason.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I personally agree that certain guns really have no use but for military or mass murdering. Those types of guns really shouldn't be in civilian hands tbh.

In an ideal world a civilian has access to a deer rifle, handgun with up to 9 shots, and a shotgun. Tbh that's still a lot of fucking firepower and honestly more than you can trust the average idiots with but it is a right allowed by the Constitution.

 

[UberNeuman]

Protip - on a long timeline, the ammo runs out. lol.

 

[Paladin3]

I didn't say there should be no extras. I just pointed out that they are extras. The only potential I see for a breakdown of society comes from the Bundy militia & similar mowrons. Maybe they'll occupy the White House if Trump loses, huh?

Exactly what do you think Trump would feel empowered to do if he had an unarmed citizenry and sufficient cooperation from the military and law enforcement? And something like maybe a pandemic as an excuse?

You don't need the support or vote of a citizen who has no power to demand one.

 

[Thunder 57]

Every portion and amendment in the U.S. Constitution carry the same weight of law. No constitutional right is less legit than the others. Unless you have the votes and political will to change The Constitution, we can't pick and choose which parts we will obey, nor can we make laws that attempt to violate it.

The left conveniently ignores that, odd considering they consider the Constitution a "living document".

 

[Thunder 57]

Protip - on a long timeline, the ammo runs out. lol.

Not too worried about that 🙂 . Not like you need to take out "the horde" after a few shots go downrange. They'll look for easier targets, like you.

 

[UberNeuman]

At least I'm making arguments rather than saying I'm not "mentally well" or having "maniacal perceptions of reality". I guess that's because when you lose the argument you just you know, attack the opponent? You do you, I'll do me. I would rather be prepared whether that includes food, water, medicine, and firearms than trust people who have nothing and are desperate to find resources to live.

Or, in normal cases, bad guys trying to plunder, rape, or murder for whatever reason.

What argument are you making? Have all the guns you want. As time goes on so does the ammo run out, and you don't seem able to make more on your own.

 

[Thunder 57]

What argument are you making? Have all the guns you want. As time goes on so does the ammo run out.

You can reload ammo. Just shows how ignorant you are on the whole debate. And it's easy to stockpile plenty of ammo should one want to. How long do you think a few thousand rounds of .223 & .308 will last? Enough to deter anyone.

 

[Paladin3]

Everything you've just posted is clearly signs of your maniacal perceptions of reality.

Not saying I agree with everything he says, but you'll have to debate his ideas if you want to discredit him, not just declare him crazy. I'm sure you know how debates work, don't you?

 

[UberNeuman]

You can reload ammo. Just shows how ignorant you are on the whole debate. And it's easy to stockpile plenty of ammo should one want to. How long do you think a few thousand rounds of .223 & .308 will last? Enough to deter anyone.

It'll never be enough. And they'll keep coming for you. always. because they'll know have something worthwhile to defend.

 

[Thunder 57]

How about this: Protop - food and fresh water run out. Ever think of that?