Gulftown (32nm 6-core 2nd gen nehalem corei9) photo & benchmark

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: Viditor
It will be interesting to see which is faster...the 6 core Intel Gulftown or the 12 core AMD Magny Cours...

Depends on the task(s) at hand and the clock speeds involved. The gap in performance per core between K10 and Nehalem isn't so great that a sufficiently multi-threaded workload wouldn't look better on the platform with slower cores in greater numbers.

HT Assist will also let AMD scale up to absurd numbers of cores better than they could before (not sure if this is a major advantage over Intel platforms but it certainly is an edge over older Opteron platforms).

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: ghost recon88
JC always posts the latest chips and architectures, how does he keep on getting access to all the new stuff when he's breaking NDA every time?

Its simple, he doesn't break the NDA. He is an authorized (sanctioned) leak. There is a reason he is silly coy about some things in his "leaks" (soooo selective about what he actually leaks) while at the same time he acts like he is some out of control NDA violating renegade to maintain the whole street cred thing. And it works, over and over again.

actually... there isnt anything sanctioned about this.

usually i would have the chips in my hand a tad short of NDA expiring..

Originally posted by: dmens

lulz

lol... was wondering if u'd pop in.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
actually... there isnt anything sanctioned about this.

Don't be so naive Aigo. History alone speaks for itself, you don't even have to be an industry insider to put two and two together on this one. Just ask Francois how far he got in his efforts to shutdown coolaler over Nehalem "leaks" a year ago. Yeah that effort got shot down real quick once someone "in the know" clued him into the behind the scenes deal with these "zomg I'm breaking teh NDA by releasing this info, but don't ask about xyz details cause even I have limits on not crossing the ethic's line..." lol, so obvious its just painful to watch the folks who can't see it.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: ghost recon88
JC always posts the latest chips and architectures, how does he keep on getting access to all the new stuff when he's breaking NDA every time?

Ha ha! Pretty obvious what's going on. He's so high up the totem pole that he is the chosen leak vector.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX

Depends on the task(s) at hand and the clock speeds involved. The gap in performance per core between K10 and Nehalem isn't so great that a sufficiently multi-threaded workload wouldn't look better on the platform with slower cores in greater numbers.

HT Assist will also let AMD scale up to absurd numbers of cores better than they could before (not sure if this is a major advantage over Intel platforms but it certainly is an edge over older Opteron platforms).

Yea considering how competitive the 6 core AMD is to the 4 core Nehalem, the 12 core Magny Cours is definitely gonna outperform the 6 core Gulftown. There's always the 8 core monster Nehalem-EX or the successor 12-core Westmere-EX, but at least for Westmere, it'll be a year away from Magny Cours.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

More Gulftown overclocking

4.6 GHz on air

~5.9 GHz on LN2
6.4 GHz LN2 suicide run (2.02 V!! :Q)

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
More Gulftown overclocking

4.6 GHz on air

~5.9 GHz on LN2
6.4 GHz LN2 suicide run (2.02 V!! :Q)

too bad those are the locked xeons. :X

 

[imported_Shaq]

It needs a bunch of voltage(1.47v) and 4.6 probably isn't stable. Why don't they do a 1 hour LinX run and see how high it will go?

 

[Phynaz]

Originally posted by: Viditor
It will be interesting to see which is faster...the 6 core Intel Gulftown or the 12 core AMD Magny Cours...

What a moronic statement.

 

[ilkhan]

truly. Wonder how high it'll go on quality H20 24/7 stable. If it does hit 5Ghz, stable, on H2O...

 

[polarbear6]

Couple this with THE LARABEE !!

 

[ilkhan]

[bump] Do we have transistor counts or die sizes yet for gulftown?

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: ilkhan
[bump] Do we have transistor counts or die sizes yet for gulftown?

We got nothing on gulftown yet. We can make some estimates based on scaling up Clarkdale cores/cache/QPI and borrowing 32nm IMC area size from Sandy dieshot...but outside of just fabricating such a Frankenstein cpu in photoshop we got nothing so far.

 

[ilkhan]

thats what I though, but figured it was worth a question.

 

[nyker96]

i think the whole idea of x58 is to be able to take in the 6core upgrade in the future, that was understood from the beginning. Gultown is the future upgrade path, i bet people will burn Intel down if gulftown require a new board. i wonder how far you can push a 6core considering the more you have, the harder to push the cores up. I think in the future there should be individual clockings on each core, so we can truthly get the max OC from a multi core cpu.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: nyker96
i think the whole idea of x58 is to be able to take in the 6core upgrade in the future, that was understood from the beginning. Gultown is the future upgrade path, i bet people will burn Intel down if gulftown require a new board. i wonder how far you can push a 6core considering the more you have, the harder to push the cores up. I think in the future there should be individual clockings on each core, so we can truthly get the max OC from a multi core cpu.

Isn't that what you can do with AMD cpu's already? Clock each cpu to its own multiplier?

 

[ilkhan]

Originally posted by: nyker96
i think the whole idea of x58 is to be able to take in the 6core upgrade in the future, that was understood from the beginning. Gultown is the future upgrade path, i bet people will burn Intel down if gulftown require a new board. i wonder how far you can push a 6core considering the more you have, the harder to push the cores up. I think in the future there should be individual clockings on each core, so we can truthly get the max OC from a multi core cpu.

And turbo does that automagically as well.

 

[alyarb]

i imagine intel will allow at least two gulftown cores to hit 3.6 GHz under turbo boost, and maybe four cores will do 2.8, but with all six loaded iirc it's going to be 2.40.

 

[Shmee]

Looks cool. By the looks of it, the 32 nm process helps with ocing, even hindered by a lower multi. I didn't know that these boards supported such high BCLKs, or was this done due to the bios update? BTW, anyone know what the highest BCLK is generally on a gigabyte board like the UD5? I hope this CPU works with my board, if not, I will wait until later and make sure to get a hydra chip board with it. Hopefully they will have no trouble with high BLCKs.

 

[alyarb]

http://elmor.se/img/news/750272bclk.jpg

of course, that's P55.

i think most X58's quit around 230 bclk.

 

[Shmee]

ya, but the gulf town isnt for p55. Werent those 250 or so BLCK oc's for the gulftowns on x58 boards? Or were they on something newer, something else ?

 

[alyarb]

they were X58. 250 bclk with X58 is possible but you really have to be good with voltages and you'll probably need to up the pcie clk.

 

[Shmee]

ah, plus I see that it was on a classified. That might help

 

[aigomorla]

i want the 3066 EE i9

 

[dmens]

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=745329

i *heard* it is on air...