Guess we should have gotten a new vacuum sooner

[shortylickens]

Carpets just suck to get and keep clean, but it really helps to have good gear.

I have a Hoover bagless that does a fantastic job, but the carpet still gets pretty grubby (no shoes, animals) judging by the amount of crap my shampooer sucks up every 3 months.

Yeah, hardwood is actually a lot more practical. But most folks end up covering it with rugs anyway. With hardwood a dust mop will clean things up much quicker and better. A really good cleaning can be had with a mop or squeegee or something similar.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Yeah, hardwood is actually a lot more practical. But most folks end up covering it with rugs anyway. With hardwood a dust mop will clean things up much quicker and better. A really good cleaning can be had with a mop or squeegee or something similar.

My house is all hardwood except for a small carpet I bought for my PC chair. It goes so well to clean with the central vac!

Of course, when my cat pukes, she has to pick the carpet. LOL

 

[spidey07]

Right. How in the world have people lived for centuries without a Dyson! People pre-dyson were all pigs and dirty.

Dyson is the Apple marketing of the vacuum world. The product may be good (or not), but the high price point and fancy marketing does not mean the Dyson is the best ever and that other cheaper alternatives are not just as good.

You can always spot the poor people. They think 300 bucks is a lot of money.

You're poor, aren't you?

 

[Exterous]

Exterous - my point was that there are vacuums before and after Dyson. Dyson doesn't improve quality of life over a Hoover or whoever else you choose.

My old one is a Hoover so ha! 😛

I would agree that a Dyson doesn't necessarily improve quality of life, rather a good vacuum cleaner can over a not as good vacuum cleaner (although we both like our Dyson already)

 

[iGas]

I got an upright Bissell Healthy Home 4 months ago to replace my old Electrolux and it is the best vacuum that I own so far. I was going to get a Hoover or a Dyson, but the sale person at the store told me that the Bissell is an excellent machine for the price while Hoover is a good vaccume but he have had a few customer returned the Hoover so as the higher price Dyson.

[add]

$269.99 CAD -- Bissell Healthy Home X9 Cyclonic, HEPA -- powerful suction, much stronger than industrial vacuums at local car wash.

$599.99 CAD -- Dyson DC25 Animal, Cylonic, HEPA -- my sis got this vac and it is a very good vac.

 

[Terzo]

Sorry....was trying to be lazy. I am in the process of converting my DVD collection to file types that Orb can play on my phone. I was hoping someone could make it simple for me since I am a simpleton.

I am more than willing to pay $300 but I am even more willing to pay $100 if it does a comparable job. I wouldn't mind have to go over a patch of carpet twice if I could save that much cash.

Don't sweat it, I read most of it over the thanksgiving holiday so it didn't take me long to find those posts. I think the big differences between the two are that you'll need to wash the pre-motor filter on the hoover every 3 months or so, while the dyson shouldn't require any filter cleaning. I think the dyson also has better usability in terms of attachments and maybe design, but don't quote me on any of this.

Although, cleaning the pre-motor filter on the hoover is important since (based on cycloneman's explanation) the motor will have a reduced lifespan with an unwashed filter.

 

[LikeLinus]

You can always spot the poor people. They think 300 bucks is a lot of money.

You're poor, aren't you?

You can always spot the people in a ton of credit card debt who overspend on things to make themselves look "rich", when they really don't take the time to invest their money wisely and not spend it on marketing gimmicks.

Yes, I'm oh so poor spidey07. You're such a smart boy.

 

[QueBert]

There are many vacuums that clean just as good or better than a Dyson for cheaper. You're just paying for the expensive brand name with a Dyson.

They work better than 98% of vacuums out there, the only vacuum I've used that worked better than a Dyson was an Electrolux, and it was more expensive than the Dyson by a few hundred bucks.

Electrolux > *

Dyson is a close 2nd.

 

[LikeLinus]

My old one is a Hoover so ha! 😛

I would agree that a Dyson doesn't necessarily improve quality of life, rather a good vacuum cleaner can over a not as good vacuum cleaner (although we both like our Dyson already)

Ha, figures I shouldn't have used a brand name as an example. I don't know much about vacuums to be honest. But, I think Dyson is a bit like Apple in their marketing and target audience. You know, soulless sheep like spidey07.

I'm not saying Dyson isn't a good machine, but they think a lot about their product and it's overpriced from what I've seen.

 

[Terzo]

I got an upright Bissell Healthy Home 4 months ago to replace my old Electrolux and it is the best vacuum that I own so far. I was going to get a Hoover or a Dyson, but the sale person at the store told me that the Bissell is an excellent machine for the price while Hoover is a good vaccume but he have had a few customer returned the Hoover so as the higher price Dyson.

I recommend reading this (text below).

The Wal-Mart version of the Bissell Healthy-Home comes with a metal telescopic wand instead of a plastic telescopic wand. In all other respects, the machines are identical.

Excellent, if heavy, vacuum. To make the expensive Hepa filter last much, much longer, here's my suggestion.

Buy a piece of cut-to-fit electrostatic high efficiency furnace filter. Remove the pre-motor filter from the filter drawer on the Bissell. Cut a piece of electrostatic furnace filter and add it to the drawer bottom, then place the foam Bissell filter on top. Any dust which gets through the open-cell foam filter will NOT go through into the motor (and into the Hepa on the exhaust) but will be caught by the electrostatic filter under the foam one. This will mean that the Hepa on the exhaust ONLY has to take carbon particles made by the motor's contact brushes, and NOT dirt. Making the Hepa filter's life increase by three to five times.

When all vacuums were bagged vacuum companies could count on additional revenue from each vacuum since bags and filters would need to be replaced (as well as belts and what not). Dyson vacuums broke that trend, requiring very little (if any, I don't own one) in the way of upkeep. I've been told that some companies design vacuum with intentional "defects" such as the above issue with the bissell. While you are still buying a good vacuum, you'll have to spend money more often on replacing HEPA filters and will have to replace the vacuum earlier when the motor dies out.

 

[rudeguy]

You can always spot the poor people. They think 300 bucks is a lot of money.

You're poor, aren't you?

$300 IS a lot of money. I work hard for my money so that I can take care of my son and buy toys once in a while. I can justify $300 for a vacuum but wouldn't dream of spending that much on other things.

I was totally with you in this thread til you said that crap.

 

[spidey07]

I recommend reading this (text below).


When all vacuums were bagged vacuum companies could count on additional revenue from each vacuum since bags and filters would need to be replaced (as well as belts and what not). Dyson vacuums broke that trend, requiring very little (if any, I don't own one) in the way of upkeep. I've been told that some companies design vacuum with intentional "defects" such as the above issue with the bissell. While you are still buying a good vacuum, you'll have to spend money more often on replacing HEPA filters and will have to replace the vacuum earlier when the motor dies out.

The Dyson is bar none the easiest to maintain and clean. No filters to buy, just a washable hepa filter. There is no easier vaccum or better on the market. It really is pure vacuum bliss, if you don't own one you just don't know what you are missing.

Or you're poor.

 

[Kaido]

Only on ATOT can a thread about a vacuum cleaner become a flamewar 😀

 

[LikeLinus]

$300 IS a lot of money. I work hard for my money so that I can take care of my son and buy toys once in a while. I can justify $300 for a vacuum but wouldn't dream of spending that much on other things.

I was totally with you in this thread til you said that crap.

Bingo. A lot of us could easily buy a $300 vacuum, but there is something called ROI (look it up Spidey, I know they don't know shit about business at Comcast). Will a $300 vacuum really give me that much better cleaning than something like the Hoover Whisper? I doubt it and there are better things to do with the money.

 

[shortylickens]

Only on ATOT can a thread about a vacuum cleaner become a flamewar 😀

I'm pretty sure in TFNN a flame war could turn into vacuum talk.

 

[spidey07]

Bingo. A lot of could easily buy a $300 vacuum, but there is something called ROI (look it up Spidey, I know they don't know shit about business at Comcast). Will a $300 vacuum really give me that much better cleaning than something like the Hoover Whisper? I doubt it and there are better things to do with the money.

That's because you don't own one or have personal experience with vacuum bliss. It's like the poor people saying how great their 300 dollar LCD HDTV is and why spend anything more?

It's because they are poor and don't have personal experience with good stuff. Complete rationalization of having shit stuff.

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OK, NOW I'm trolling.

 

[zerocool84]

That's because you don't own one or have personal experience with vacuum bliss. It's like the poor people saying how great their 300 dollar LCD display is and why spend anything more?

It's because they are poor and don't have personal experience with good stuff. Complete rationalization of having shit stuff.

Or only having Comcast and not experiencing anything better.

 

[LikeLinus]

That's because you don't own one or have personal experience with vacuum bliss. It's like the poor people saying how great their 300 dollar LCD HDTV is and why spend anything more?

It's because they are poor and don't have personal experience with good stuff. Complete rationalization of having shit stuff.

Sorry, I put hardwood flooring and tile throughout my house. Guess which one adds market value to your home? Your $300 isn't going to make you money in the long run - ROI. Stupid.

Easier to maintain and it looks better than carpet. So I'll continue being "poor", thanks!

Let the thread get back on topic.

 

[Exterous]

Only on ATOT can a thread about a vacuum cleaner become a flamewar 😀

I researched vacuums before I bought the Dyson and it was surprisingly common.

Now the flame war about which screw was better surprised me

 

[foghorn67]

Bissel Healthy Home. Or whatever their replacement is called. It pwns.

 

[iGas]

I recommend reading this (text below).


When all vacuums were bagged vacuum companies could count on additional revenue from each vacuum since bags and filters would need to be replaced (as well as belts and what not). Dyson vacuums broke that trend, requiring very little (if any, I don't own one) in the way of upkeep. I've been told that some companies design vacuum with intentional "defects" such as the above issue with the bissell. While you are still buying a good vacuum, you'll have to spend money more often on replacing HEPA filters and will have to replace the vacuum earlier when the motor dies out.

Thanks for the tip. Good thing that I work in HVAC and have plenty of furnace filters lying around.

 

[spidey07]

Sorry, I put hardwood flooring and tile throughout my house. Guess which one adds market value to your home? Your $300 isn't going to make you money in the long run - ROI. Stupid.

Easier to maintain and it looks better than carpet. So I'll continue being "poor", thanks!

Let the thread get back on topic.

A dyson would be the investment you could ever make to take care of your hardwood and tile. There is an easy setting to move from carpet to hardwood/tile with just the flick of your foot.

Just come to vacuuming bliss, you'll thank me later. You can use a bed bath and beyond coupon and get the best vacuum ever for cheap. Your floors will thank you later as you give them a great clean in the fastest amount of time with little effort from pure vacuum bliss.

 

[ultimatebob]

Psssshhhhh kirbys are the only vacs to have.

I had one of those (a Heritage II), and HATED it! It was too damn loud, heavy as hell, and removing the front brush on those things to attach a vacuum hose is a pain in the ass.

 

[rudeguy]

That's because you don't own one or have personal experience with vacuum bliss. It's like the poor people saying how great their 300 dollar LCD HDTV is and why spend anything more?

It's because they are poor and don't have personal experience with good stuff. Complete rationalization of having shit stuff.

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OK, NOW I'm trolling.

😀 I actually liked that post but admire your calling yourself out.

We all have certain things that we see value in. Being a salesman, I am easily sold on good features and benefits

 

[Exterous]

$300 IS a lot of money. I work hard for my money so that I can take care of my son and buy toys once in a while. I can justify $300 for a vacuum but wouldn't dream of spending that much on other things.

If it helps what it seemed to come down to from the research I found was that for regular price of $549 the Dyson was over priced. For $300 new it seemed to be a good value. It's pretty light weight, easy to use and move, easy to clean and maintain and the engineering seemed solid. (The canister moved easily in and out of position once the button was pressed. Everything moves smoothly when it is supposed to move and stays firmly in place when it is not supposed to move). If you are willing to sacrifice some of these characteristics you can get something with the same cleaning power for maybe a bit less

Keep in mind that I knew next to nothing about vacuum cleaners untill yesterday when I sat down for a fury of research.

If you have a Best Buy near you you can take advantage of their return policy. You could try it and if you don't like it you can return it within 30 days (keep reciept, bring box and all attachments etc).

I might do that with the Walmart one, but it seems my wife has latched on the Dyson already....