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GTX570 side/upgrade

dkm777

dkm777

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Hi guys,

I'm trying to sell my GTX570 while it still has some value. But I'll need a new card, because the PC it is from has no integrated GPU. What would be the best bang for buck option for replacing a 570? I don't need significantly higher performance - just greatly reduced heat, power consumption and more VRAM. I'm rather partial to Asus DC II cards, but if other vendors caught up to them in terms of cooling to noise ratio then I'm open for suggestions.
 
Looks like you want either a Nvidia 660 (slightly faster while using less power), or a 7870/270X (in some cases significantly faster while using less power).
 
280X is too much - right now the rig has a lowly Phenom II and will be upgraded to an FX. I'll be CPU limited like no tomorrow. 660 and 270X look good, but will they still be severely CPU limited with an FX-8350?
 
Actually, this $110 MSI HD7850 Twin Frozr is essentially equivalent to your 570 and certainly meets all your other criteria at an incredible price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127663

If you want to pay for 20% faster performance, the 7870 is absolutely as high as I'd go with your CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131492

My older i7-860@3.5 slightly bottlenecked a 7870 (versus a 4670K), and your processor is probably about 20% slower.

Honestly, as a drop-in replacement, you can't do better than the MSI 7850, which I've owned and can promise you is incredibly quiet.
 
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Will have to second Termies recommendation on that Msi 7850, had that card and it was a solid card even overclocking to 1050 core and i know its unlocked so clocking it to or near 7870 performance shouldn't be a issue.

Small, petite and overall very quiet makes it a winner of a choice, its why i had it for a while.
 
dkm777 said:
280X is too much - right now the rig has a lowly Phenom II and will be upgraded to an FX. I'll be CPU limited like no tomorrow. 660 and 270X look good, but will they still be severely CPU limited with an FX-8350?
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No... You are are severely underestimating the 8350, especially if you overclock.
 
660 and 7850 are the fastest cards with only 1x6-pin. 660 is faster at stock, but max OC would probably favor the 7850 - I'd imagine. Obviously you can handle the 2x6-pin 7870, but just an fyi.
 
Termie said:
My older i7-860@3.5 slightly bottlenecked a 7870 (versus a 4670K), and your processor is probably about 20% slower.
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In what games was i7 860 @ 3.5ghz bottlenecking the 7870? 7870 is a going to bottleneck an FX8350 when most games now are GPU limited, except strategy games or flight sims.

GTX680 still bottlenecks a 1st generation i7 in GPU demanding modern games like Crysis 3, Far Cry 3, Metro LL, etc.

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The most bang for the buck cards right now are all from AMD camp.

MSi TwinFrozr 7850 2GB for $110. This is better than GTX650Ti.

PowerColor HD7870 for $150 . This is better than GTX660.

R9 270X is better than GTX660Ti too but given the price of 7970 Ghz Vapor-X, I would skip spend $20 more if you have the budget for a $200 card.

Sapphire Vapor-X HD7970Ghz Edition for $220 with 3 free games. This is better than 660Ti/760 and trades blows with the $330-390 GTX770 2-4GB! This card isn't quiet but if you set up a custom fan profile, it will run quiet and and cool. It does have 200W power usage though.

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Here is a quick summary of performance for most of these cards.
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/...geforce-gtx-780-ti-gegen-gtx-titan-im-test/4/
 
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I checked with my favorite joint and it looks like the 7000 series is almost all gone and by the time I sell my 570 everything will be completely replaced with the new R9s. Looking at benches I think I'll stick with R9 270X. Sapphire is cheaper than Asus or MSI here so I'll see if I can justify the Vap-X. I'm extremely satisfied with my old 7970 Vap-X in my other rig. Oh, by the way - the free game deal is not available in my country. Sucks to be me. I could surely use some free games :biggrin:.
 
dkm777 said:
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I checked with my favorite joint and it looks like the 7000 series is almost all gone and by the time I sell my 570 everything will be completely replaced with the new R9s. Looking at benches I think I'll stick with R9 270X. Sapphire is cheaper than Asus or MSI here so I'll see if I can justify the Vap-X. I'm extremely satisfied with my old 7970 Vap-X in my other rig. Oh, by the way - the free game deal is not available in my country. Sucks to be me. I could surely use some free games :biggrin:.
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Keep an eye on the R9 270 (non-X). It is literally a cheaper 270X at lower clocks (no idea what AMD was thinking here at all).
 
OCGuy said:
OP wasn't asking for what he could overclock....
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you are just crapping. even at stock the HD 7950 boost is on par with GTX 760 and a nice 40 - 45% faster than GTX 570.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/21/asus_geforce_gtx_760_directcu_ii_oc_video_card_review/4

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...523-amd-radeon-r9-270x-r7-260x-review-22.html

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...523-amd-radeon-r9-270x-r7-260x-review-23.html

GTX 570 = HD 7850 = GTX 650 Ti boost = 1x
GTX 660 = GTX 580 = 1.15x
R9 270x = 1.3x
HD 7950 boost = GTX 760 = 1.4x

in BF4 the HD 7950 boost crushes the GTX 570 by 50 - 70%

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_4_vga_graphics_performance_benchmark,7.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page3.html
 
raghu78 said:
you are just crapping. even at stock the HD 7950 boost is...3.html
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You didn't read the OP. Performance isn't the main metric he is basing the purchase on. Overclocking is generally out of the question for efficiency buyers.

It is interesting to read the canned responses though!
 
those value charts make no sense. for example the 770 is $329 and the 780ti is $699. thats 112% increase in price for a 40-50% increase in performance. so how in the hell could the 780 ti be the better value?
 
toyota said:
those value charts make no sense. for example the 770 is $329 and the 780ti is $699. thats 112% increase in price for a 40-50% increase in performance. so how in the hell could the 780 ti be the better value?
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Not to mention 7970 GHz vs. 770. Those two should be almost the same...
 
toyota said:
those value charts make no sense. for example the 770 is $329 and the 780ti is $699. thats 112% increase in price for a 40-50% increase in performance. so how in the hell could the 780 ti be the better value?
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It is FPS over 30 instead of raw FPS. So by that measure, 60 FPS is three times as good as 40 FPS instead of 1.5 times as good. Any card that got 30 FPS or slower would literally be considered worthless in their value test. I agree that this measure makes the more expensive cards look a better value than they are.
 
toyota said:
those value charts make no sense. for example the 770 is $329 and the 780ti is $699. thats 112% increase in price for a 40-50% increase in performance. so how in the hell could the 780 ti be the better value?
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I glanced at them quickly. You are right that some of the prices seem to have used the older $399 price for 770. Either way, do the manual calculation and my statement still stands true. HD7850/7870/270/270X and the $220 Vapor-X 7970 Ghz Edition that was on sale were all better values than 770 at the time I made the post. Today, the 770 is still impossible to recommend based on the requirements in the OP. 770 2GB is a decent alternative to 280Xs at $300 but it isn't going to be able to match a $150 HD7870 for example in bang-for-the-buck criteria.
 
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