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gtx560 specs and clocks: fudzilla and chiphell

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tviceman

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The chiphell link is over at Hardocp, but here's the fudzilla link:

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/21294-nvidias-gtx-560-detailed

If the speed improvements gtx580 made over the gtx480 are equal to the gtx460 to gtx560 comparsion, reference gtx560 models are going to be 35-40% faster than the gtx460. That will put it's performance in hd6950 territory and I am guessing a $250-260 price launch is going to put some serious hurt on all high end value.
 
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tviceman said:
The chiphell link is over at Hardocp, but here's the fudzilla link:

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/21294-nvidias-gtx-560-detailed

If the speed improvements gtx580 made over the gtx480 are equal to the gtx460 to gtx560 comparsion, reference gtx560 models are going to be 35-40% faster than the gtx460. That will put it's performance in hd6950 territory and I am guessing a $250-260 price launch is going to put some serious hurt on all high end value.
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There is a pretty big gap between the $200 and less 460 and the $350 570. So this should fit in perfect. Although the 6950 will probably have to drop down to the $200 range.
 
Based on increase in core + increase in shaders it should be +35~40% from a GTX460 1GB, depending on what role memory bandwidth plays.
Wouldn't be surprising if they simply aimed for slightly above GTX470 sorts of speeds.
 
Aristotelian said:
I wonder if the 560 will be the overclocking monster that the 460 is.
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Given that its default clock is higher, possibly not in percentage terms, but if the specs are true then it should clock decently well.
Since some GTX460's struggle to get 850MHz and these are supposedly starting at 820MHz, it's already showing itself to probably be better.
 
solofly said:
These might be candidates to replace my 460s...(if the price is right😉)
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The 460 really seems like a great card still, I can't imagine them killing it off with the 560. I'd bet this would be aimed squarely at the 470 price/performance to tuck in at a better (until other price drops 😀) value than the 6950.

So we'd get something like 580>6970~570>6950~560>6870~460OC (and/or 550?) and so on. My guess anyway.
 
happy medium said:
I've been trying to tell the potential 6870/ 6950 buyers to hold of till mid January for the gtx560. This card should give these buyers a good price cut.

This is falling in line with my predictions well.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2126529
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I'm not sure it will price cut the 6900s all that much. If it is superior to the 6950 it will be awful close to the 570 and I can't see that without being overly optimistic. My conservative, don't get too excited cause it never works out, guess is that the 560 will perform somewhere between a stock 6870 and 6950 for a competitive price on the order of 250.

The 6870 is priced too high right now as there is a relative blank spot there (it is close to the 6950 in price in Canada). It will likely see a drop from the 560.
 
happy medium said:
I've been trying to tell the potential 6870/ 6950 buyers to hold of till mid January for the gtx560. This card should give these buyers a good price cut.

This is falling in line with my predictions well.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2126529

With the gtx460 1gb overclocking this well for well under 170$, this card better be able to hit 1000 core.

http://forums.anandtech.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1607
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thats a good idea, the 460 is a pretty great card for the price, a refresh could be awesome and will defintely shuffle pricing tiers again.

I just snagged a 5870, but I'll sell my 4850X2 and need to replace it with something that can do 1080p gaming and maybe 3d 1080p. wonder if the 560 will fit the bill.....
 
RaistlinZ said:
Seems odd to upgrade from a 460 to a 560. Just slap in another 460 for SLI action.
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because everybody has an sli board?

the jump from gtx460 to gtx560 should be about 30% which is bigger than what people on here with 4870/gtx260 cards got when they upgraded to a gtx460. lol
 
Daedalus685 said:
I'm not sure it will price cut the 6900s all that much. If it is superior to the 6950 it will be awful close to the 570 and I can't see that without being overly optimistic. My conservative, don't get too excited cause it never works out, guess is that the 560 will perform somewhere between a stock 6870 and 6950 for a competitive price on the order of 250.

The 6870 is priced too high right now as there is a relative blank spot there (it is close to the 6950 in price in Canada). It will likely see a drop from the 560.
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This...I don't foresee the 560 being faster/equal to a 6950, yet cheaper, since it would be only slightly slower than a 570, but a $100 cheaper. No, I expect it'll be about the same speed as 470.
 
A 460 at those clocks is already as fast as a 6870 for the most part, so with adding in the extra SP's that is going to put this card real close to the 6950 I imagine (around 10% slower perhaps), but for $50 less.

I don't think that rumored AMD price increase is ever going to see the light of day, and was probably put out just for the sake of trying to create a greater sense of urgency to help foster more Christmas sales.
 
Daedalus685 said:
I'm not sure it will price cut the 6900s all that much. If it is superior to the 6950 it will be awful close to the 570 and I can't see that without being overly optimistic. My conservative, don't get too excited cause it never works out, guess is that the 560 will perform somewhere between a stock 6870 and 6950 for a competitive price on the order of 250.
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Thats what i think too... unlike some fanboy dreamers
 
The increase on the 69xx line? I've seen from merchants that it's more than rumor, but who knows.
 
This could be a really great card that sits between the 6870 and 6950 on the AMD side; if its a goog OCer, 2 of these could be the "king" of bang-for-the-buck multi-GPU goodness.
 
Axon said:
The increase on the 69xx line? I've seen from merchants that it's more than rumor, but who knows.
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Lol. Let them then. Would be a dumb move. It would effectively ruin any argument they have in the price/performance scenario in comparison to their Nvidia counterparts which is the only marketing angle they have for the most part.

You see countless people touting the 6970 is soo much cheaper than the 580. Well, so it the 570 and it came out first which is what made the 6970 the price it is since their performance is equivalent. AMD didn't try to deliberately undercut Nvidia price wise, they were backed into the price they had to chose because the 6970 couldn't really demand a higher price. They better release a new bios that unlocks some performance if they increase price. Low stock on the 580 doesn't mean jack crap when the 570 is in good stock and is just as fast as the 6970.

The 560 won't be as fast as a 6950, but it's performance I imagne is going to be good enough that spending the extra money for a 6950 may not feel warranted except to those who just want to support/buy an AMD card, especially if they do go up on price.
 
Teizo said:
Lol. Let them then. Would be a dumb move. It would effectively ruin any argument they have in the price/performance scenario in comparison to their Nvidia counterparts which is the only marketing angle they have for the most part.

You see countless people touting the 6970 is soo much cheaper than the 580. Well, so it the 570 and it came out first which is what made the 6970 the price it is. They better release a new bios that unlocks some performance if they increase price. Low stock on the 580 doesn't mean jack crap when the 570 is in good stock and is just as fast as the 6970.

The 560 won't be as fast as a 6950, but it's performance I imagne is going to be good enough that spending the extra money for a 6950 may not feel warranted except to those who just want to support/buy an AMD card, especially if they do go up on price.
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Agreed 100%. AMD is notorious for raising the prices after release, but I'm not sure doing so is a great idea this time around.
 
Axon said:
Agreed 100%. AMD is notorious for raising the prices after release, but I'm not sure doing so is a great idea this time around.
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Based on last quarter's financial results it looks like AMD is selling it's cards at or near a loss. So they may have no choice but to raise prices.
 
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