GTX 960 is expected to launch next month.

[skipsneeky2]

If the good 960Ti sells at $249 AMD is screwed, even though the R9 290 is still the better card.

Yeah i think a year ago i may have done the same and maybe even today.My experience with ATI and AMD has been so sore its pretty much impossible for me to even consider AMD yet again.It's like buying a ford Taurus,having a bad transmission go out and then years later saying i want the new one.

I picked a $400 770 over a obviously cheaper 7970 weeks before the 290 release solely based on my own experiences with ATI/AMD,It's not me being a fanboy but you get enough crap from one company going back 6 years and that is all it takes.

 

[crisium]

"$400 770 in late 2013". My condolences for your loss. I cannot even imagine what that would be like. At least buying a slower 960Ti will get you superb power consumption. 770 was never (ever) a viable card for the price in its (thankfully) shortlived history.

 

[skipsneeky2]

"$400 770 in late 2013". My condolences for your loss. I cannot even imagine what that would be like. At least buying a slower 960Ti will get you superb power consumption. 770 was never (ever) a viable card for the price in its (thankfully) shortlived history.

Only got it cause not to long before i had a 7850 that developed a bad fan bearing,ended up being a piss poor overclocker then it failed on me,was kinda pissed about that so i went with another Nvidia card.Had to many issues with AMD cards to really even consider them again.

Luckily the 970 offers all the performance and price i could afford in a few weeks if the 960ti lacks 4gb vram or disappoints.Seeing how the $499 680 became a $400 770 then how the $330 970 outperforms what was a $499 780 its safe to say buying a second from best gpu is the smartest move.

I wouldn't put it pass me that a 980 replacement perhaps a ti or overclocked 980 on 384 bit eventually will come out with 6gb of ram to compete with 390x and hit that $499 mark and there goes the resale value of the 980 real quick lol.

 

[SPBHM]

Only got it cause not to long before i had a 7850 that developed a bad fan bearing,ended up being a piss poor overclocker then it failed on me,was kinda pissed about that so i went with another Nvidia card.Had to many issues with AMD cards to really even consider them again.

fan problem? if it was a reference design maybe you can blame AMD...
but you have to accept that some cards are simply defective, not their entire line of products...

I've had a 2 Nvidia cards failing (bad GPU solder) in 30 days, another 2 giving me problems a little over a year (one died)... but I'm still open to buy nvidia products... as for AMD/ATI I never had one simply failing (from 5+ cards), but had my share of bad overclockers and instability (mostly software I think), also bad fan from a reference design,

I rate Nvidia higher because of their software/drivers and power efficiency, but when the 770 was a lot more expensive and with less memory I would probably go with the 280x

 

[skipsneeky2]

fan problem? if it was a reference design maybe you can blame AMD...

MSI TF3 7850 2GB,a good card design wise.YMMV with brands but mine have been terrible but i have had other issues that will take this off topic.

Point was really just how when one brand works,the other simply gives a bad experience time and time again do you really want to try it again?Luckily this time the 970 simply is faster then a 290 in most cases and is really affordable so such a purchase wouldn't be as bias as my 770 was.

 

[Magic Carpet]

More food.

MSI TF3 7850 2GB,a good card design wise.YMMV with brands but mine have been terrible but i have had other issues that will take this off topic.

It's wise to buy hardware based on stock performance, not overclocked. You never know when you get a bad apple. Been burnt hard myself, more than once.

 

[skipsneeky2]

It's wise to buy hardware based on stock performance, not overclocked. You never know when you get a bad apple. Been burnt hard myself, more than once.

That is mostly the reason i went 770 over 280x,the game i played most at time of purchase and still today is BF3.Anandtech and TPU both gave a nod to 770 over 7970 in their 770 review for 1080p in BF3.Premium seemed worth the guarantee performance i would get.There is more of a premium these days between the 970 and 980 that doesn't seem worth it lol.

Luckily this time at this moment if you spend $250 or more your pretty much getting what you paid for right up to $550.AMD dominates without a question under $300 with their 290 and the 970/980 do great.Hopefully the 960 ti at least could match 290 when it debuts.

 

[Leyawiin]

I screwed myself buying a 2gb 770,i won't be doing that again so no 3gb cards for me.:|

I thought the same thing about my GTX 670 2GB that I bought in summer of 2012. I was fine with it the first year and then started thinking "why didn't you spend the extra $60 for the 4GB version?". If I had I'd probably still be using it.

 

[RussianSensation]

I thought the same thing about my GTX 670 2GB that I bought in summer of 2012. I was fine with it the first year and then started thinking "why didn't you spend the extra $60 for the 4GB version?". If I had I'd probably still be using it.

I would have picked 670 2GB but 670 4GB for SLI. Frankly if you had sold the 670 for $150 today, you could have added $70-80 and gotten a great used R9 290. That's just an example of how saving $60 back then for you would have actually been better. Alternatively that 970 purchase you made is effectively $60 cheaper

Sometimes it's worth it to pay for the extra VRAM (8800GTS 320MB vs. 640MB) but other times it's a complete waste of $ like $450 770 4GB vs. $300 770 2GB. It's about relative pricing. If 960 is $200, it's way better to buy a used R9 290 or pay $80 more for a new after-market 290 to get more performance and double the VRAM. In this case it wouldn't be a situation where you are just paying for more VRAM but also more performance.

 

[Leyawiin]

I would have picked 670 2GB but 670 4GB for SLI. Frankly if you had sold the 670 for $150 today, you could have added $70-80 and gotten a great used R9 290. That's just an example of how saving $60 back then for you would have actually been better. Alternatively that 970 purchase you made is effectively $60 cheaper

Sometimes it's worth it to pay for the extra VRAM (8800GTS 320MB vs. 640MB) but other times it's a complete waste of $ like $450 770 4GB vs. $300 770 2GB. It's about relative pricing. If 960 is $200, it's way better to buy a used R9 290 or pay $80 more for a new after-market 290 to get more performance and double the VRAM. In this case it wouldn't be a situation where you are just paying for more VRAM but also more performance.

Well, I did sell it for $165 and got a $215 XFX R9 290 during Black Friday, so it's all good.

 

[PenguinJim]

I can't tell if you guys bemoaning the 2GB are joking or marketeers. For example.

Surely the 192-bit (or 128-bit?!) memory interface will be the bottleneck.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I can't tell if you guys bemoaning the 2GB are joking or marketeers. For example.

Worst game i saw last year was COD:AW,1366x768 on my t.v with all settings on max outside of AA even touched the memory choking on my 770 was so bad i mind as well have been sitting at 10fps with what i got.There is other examples of newer games even worst off then that.

768p is the second most used resolution outside of 1080p according to Steam so its safe to say even a budget monitor or a t.v user could safely avoid 2gb cards.I wouldn't use a 960ti/290/970 for 768p as i use DSR for up to 2732x1536 which looks damn good on my 26'' t.v.

 

[tential]

I can't tell if you guys bemoaning the 2GB are joking or marketeers. For example.

Surely the 192-bit (or 128-bit?!) memory interface will be the bottleneck.

How about some testing from 2014? Because 2014 is the year of the VRAM increase.

 

[Ranulf]

I can't tell if you guys bemoaning the 2GB are joking or marketeers. For example.

Surely the 192-bit (or 128-bit?!) memory interface will be the bottleneck.

This was brought up in the other 960 thread and not very convincing. As tential says, we're gonna need modern games from 2014 onward. Maybe the tests will show a 960 can handle the newer stuff at 1080p with 2gb due to the memory bus but I wouldn't be optimistic. Look at the 285 from late last year, heck even now thats a 3gb 280 vs a same or more expensive 2gb 285.

 

[voodoo7817]

I just posted a comment on alienbabeltech asking if they'd consider doing this test again with newer games. Haven't seen Apoppin around here much anymore so I guess he's "all in" on his own site.

 

[PenguinJim]

How about some testing from 2014? Because 2014 is the year of the VRAM increase.

Not sure if it's a technical problem on my end... I've tried clicking all over your post and can't find your link to the testing from all of those great games from 2014.

 

[psolord]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 Reference and Overclocked Performance Revealed – Performs Slightly Faster Than Radeon R9 280

 

[shady28]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 Reference and Overclocked Performance Revealed – Performs Slightly Faster Than Radeon R9 280

Wow that blows. 960 = Little bit slower and little bit less power, or R9280 = little bit faster and little bit more power. Same price point.

Boring.

 

[SPBHM]

it also means performance is not far from the 760 and it has the same amount of memory...

 

[happy medium]

"however the performance numbers shouldn’t be indicative of the final product since NVIDIA will be shipping final products with new performance drivers once the card launches"

Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...-slightly-faster-radeon-r9-280/#ixzz3OkyslFKz

So mabe it will be a little faster at release?


edit:
Also, I thought there was a 960 "ti" version also in the works.
1280 cuda cores,80 texture units,192 bit ,3gb vram?
There is plenty of room between the 970 and this "vanilla" 960.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Wow that blows. 960 = Little bit slower and little bit less power, or R9280 = little bit faster and little bit more power. Same price point.

Boring.

Except the 280 is discontinued and it'll be competing with the 285, making things even worse.

 

[crisium]

This card utterly disgusts me. 2GB in 2015. Lower memory bandwidth than the GTX 460 (Maxwell is more efficient with it, but still pathetic). Instantly irrelevant. Tonga 285 is garbage too, but at least it is new garbage featuring GCN 1.2. We already have Maxwell.

 

[shady28]

Except the 280 is discontinued and it'll be competing with the 285, making things even worse.

285 is ridiculous, it fits nowhere. One bench it's faster than a 280X, next its slower than a 280 or even gtx 760. It's like a very picky inconsistent 280.

 

[WittyRemark]

Considering you can get a R9 290 for as low as $240 , there's not much left to say about Gtx960.

 

[Ranulf]

More pictures:

http://videocardz.com/54268/kfa2-geforce-gtx-960-series-pictured