GTX 950 vs GTX 750 Ti

[NTMBK]

Not much longer than the 750 and 750ti high perf coolers:

http://www.evga.com/products/images/gallery/02G-P4-2758-KR_XL_7.jpg

http://www.evga.com/products/images/gallery/02G-P4-3757-KR_XL_7.jpg

And I would never recommend a 750 that size for the same reason.

 

[SimianR]

To be honest the price of this card is disappointing. A card below $150 would have been huge, but this is fairly close to the 960.. which makes you wonder why you wouldn't spend another $20 and just get the 960.

 

[RaistlinZ]

To be honest the price of this card is disappointing. A card below $150 would have been huge, but this is fairly close to the 960.. which makes you wonder why you wouldn't spend another $20 and just get the 960.

Especially since the 960 comes with a free game.

 

[weevilone]

I haven't had a rebate go through in years (last was an EVGA one like six years ago). My current card is a PNY GTX 780 with a supposed $30 MIR. Filled it out to the letter and mailed it in two weeks before the deadline. Nothing. They claim to have not received it. Sent in copies. Same excuse. Last year I had a $30 rebate on an ECS motherboard. Same song and dance about not receiving it. Rebates (for me) have been a complete ripoff and waste of time the last two I've done. I don't even bother anymore with the $10 to $15 ones. Of course YMMV, but MIRs are one of the biggest consumer complaints.

Anecdotal evidence is just that. I built like 3 new PC's in the past couple years and probably 2/3 of the components had some rebate. All of them went through with zero hassles. I know that's anecdotal too, but it's not appropriate to assume that they never work.

 

[Ranulf]

So far the Zotac single fan unit is the cheapest at $150 (with $10 gift card so $160). Requires one six pin for power according to the pics on newegg.

Not impressed at all here either. I had the same impressions 8 months ago with the 960. A trend I see.

 

[SimianR]

At $129 like a few of the rumors were suggesting it would have been a different story. I think the problem is that they still they still want to clear 750/750 Ti's and don't want to eat into that part of their product line at the moment..

 

[VirtualLarry]

At $129 like a few of the rumors were suggesting it would have been a different story. I think the problem is that they still they still want to clear 750/750 Ti's and don't want to eat into that part of their product line at the moment..

That could be true.

How well do these GTX950 cards pair up with Core2Quad CPUs, specifically, the 2.5Ghz Q9300, and the 2.66Ghz Q9400? (I've got two Q9300 rigs, a friend has a Q9400.)

Also, another friend has an Ivy Bridge i3 3.4Ghz CPU in a PC I sold him, and then shortly after, sold him a 7790 1GB card that I had laying around. He plays H1Z1 @ 1080P, medium, I think. It's only a 1GB card (== R9 260X), so I'm wondering if a GTX950, or a GTX960, would be a decent step up? His PSU only has a single 6-pin PCI-E. (It's a branded aftermarket, I put it in, for the 7790.)

If I were seriously in the market for a 4K HDTV or monitor, I probably would replace my 7950 3GB cards with a GTX950, for productivity work, for the HDMI 2.0 port support. I don't game much anymore.

 

[shady28]

Doesn't make sense to me. For $175 without rebate you can get Asus Strix 2GB 960, or for $209 / $199 with rebate you can get a 4GB EVGA 960.

950 needs to be about $130 like others have said.

On the other hand, for people shopping at places like best buy they'll be comparing a $159 950 to a $200+ 960 so it may sell well in those channels.

 

[Burpo]

Gtx 950 hdmi 2.0

 

[antihelten]

Especially since the 960 comes with a free game.

This really rubs it in. 960's currently come with MGS V for free (hardly the worst game you can get, to put it mildly), whereas 950's come with nothing.

 

[Leyawiin]

Just came from the Tom's review. Everyone there (including the reviewer) is crowing about how the GTX 950 nearly makes the GTX 960 obsolete being its "only" 12-15% slower and slightly cheaper. SMH. I have a GTX 960 with a 1680x1050 monitor. There's no way I'd want anything slower especially saving maybe $25 at best with current prices for both.

 

[JDG1980]

Nvidia hasn't dropped prices any further because AMD has nothing to bring to the table in response. It's really that simple. Yes, a price point around $129 would be nice, and if AMD wasn't still trying to compete in 2015 with a 2012-vintage GPU, then maybe Nvidia wouldn't be milking customers so hard.

Nvidia won 28nm, it's that simple. We will see if FinFET changes the equation next year. For the sake of our pocketbooks, let's hope so.

 

[shady28]

Just came from the Tom's review. Everyone there (including the reviewer) is crowing about how the GTX 950 nearly makes the GTX 960 obsolete being its "only" 12-15% slower and slightly cheaper. SMH. I have a GTX 960 with a 1680x1050 monitor. There's no way I'd want anything slower especially saving maybe $25 at best with current prices for both.

My thought too. Maximum PC came to the same conclusion noting that there were 960s aplenty ~$185 now (actually the 960 Strix - same brand and line they reviewed for the 950, is only $175).

I think NV has mis-positioned this card. It looks like they went in to beat the 370/370X, so they got it pretty close to a 960. The reason the 750 Ti is so popular though is the 60W TDP and no 6-pin.

My guess is they are getting greedy. They want to keep selling the 750Ti as it is a cheap chip to make, and they want more money for the GM206 950. So they slotted this into a price/perf bracket that is too close to the 960 to make any sense, while also not being viable for the boatloads of PCs that don't have a 6-pin.

My guess is, this will merely cannibalize some of their 960 sales and not much affect 750Ti sales. Will be interesting to see what the steam HW survey looks like in October (for the month of Sept).

 

[Silverforce11]

Prices here are ridiculous. $269 for a Gaming 950. MSI Gaming 370 4GB cost the same. The 2GB model costs $229. Gaming 960 is $299.

Good custom 380 is ~$289.

950 is in no man land on pricing. It's a high powered card like the 960, so the HTPC niche is still for the lower end stuff.

For $20 or $30 more, upgrade to a major performance bump in the 960 or even faster the 380.

Power consumption:

Amazing what AMD can do with a mature 28nm node and better coolers. 380 is more power efficient than 960, and 370 is ~= 950 on perf/w.

GCN keeps on trucking on!

 

[SimianR]

Does anyone feel like there's a huge gap in NVIDIA's product lineup between the 960 and the 970? The performance difference is massive and there is no product between $199 and $330. A $249 960 Ti would be awesome - but I guess if they can sell 4GB versions of 960 around that price point they will.

 

[tweakboy]

950 all the wlay!

 

[LTC8K6]

Does anyone feel like there's a huge gap in NVIDIA's product lineup between the 960 and the 970? The performance difference is massive and there is no product between $199 and $330. A $249 960 Ti would be awesome - but I guess if they can sell 4GB versions of 960 around that price point they will.

256bit 960ti?

 

[mohit9206]

New cards are always worse value for money than current gen cards. What's new about this? Just wait a couple of months and the 950 will drop to about $130 or so.Although 4gb option should also be provided.
In my country the 750ti 2gb is $160 and 4gb is $240 so 950 might be $220 for 2gb and $250 for the 4gb. The 960 2gb is $250 and the 4gb is $300.

 

[DustinBrowder]

Just another useless Nvidia turd, anyone with half a brain will stay away from this turd like that plague!

I mean at $170 and $180 for most models out there, you might as well loan money from a bank and get a R9 290 for $250 to $260.

Why spend $170 or even $180 for a custom model like the Asus Strix, when you can literally add $70 more and SAVE tons of money in the long run by getting a $250 R9 290.

Just go out and borrow money from your friends, family, lend it from a bank and get yourself R9 290 for $250 that is 80%-90% faster than this turd!

 

[mohit9206]

Just another useless Nvidia turd, anyone with half a brain will stay away from this turd like that plague!

I mean at $170 and $180 for most models out there, you might as well loan money from a bank and get a R9 290 for $250 to $260.

Why spend $170 or even $180 for a custom model like the Asus Strix, when you can literally add $70 more and SAVE tons of money in the long run by getting a $250 R9 290.

Just go out and borrow money from your friends, family, lend it from a bank and get yourself R9 290 for $250 that is 80%-90% faster than this turd!

You are forgetting one important point. In developing countries, even a difference of $10 can be significant let alone $70.
So if a person has a budget of $150 then you cannot just expect them to stretch it to $200 let alone $250.
Sure the 950 could have been cheaper by about $20 but its still a better value than the $150 R7 370.

 

[LTC8K6]

People shopping in the gtx950 aisle are not going to buy an R9-290 imo. They would cross shop a comparable "new" AMD card, like a 360/370.

The ref 950 has 3 DP connectors. Someone probably wants that, along with the rest of the stuff Maxwell 2 brings.

 

[her209]

People shopping in the gtx950 aisle are not going to buy an R9-290 imo. They would cross shop a comparable "new" AMD card, like a 360/370.

The ref 950 has 3 DP connectors. Someone probably wants that, along with the rest of the stuff Maxwell 2 brings.

The 960 also has 3 DP connectors.

 

[Headfoot]

If it weren't for the 970 and the 980 Ti, the GM200 gpu series would have gone down as the worst priced series of cards in history. The 980, 960 4gb, 960 at launch, 950 and Titan X are all just awfully priced despite being fine enough cards from a technical perspective.

 

[LTC8K6]

The 960 also has 3 DP connectors.

Yes, but the 950 is cheaper, even if only a little at the moment.

I was actually referencing the competition, though. I didn't think the comparable AMD cards had the connectors, let alone the Maxwell 2 features.

 

[LTC8K6]

If it weren't for the 970 and the 980 Ti, the GM200 gpu series would have gone down as the worst priced series of cards in history. The 980, 960 4gb, 960 at launch, 950 and Titan X are all just awfully priced despite being fine enough cards from a technical perspective.

If AMD had brought out new cards, I think things would have been different for NV.

AMD should have had more Tonga based cards out to the public, instead of dealing with the devil.