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CRV

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Okay, so I've been researching etc and been thinking if in the near future, if I upgrade, I would be going for a GTX 780. I'm new to PC gaming. I do not know which brand is better than the other and what to look for (2gb, 3gb, 4gb, 1 fan, 2 fan, 3 fan etc....).

I have an i5 4440 with and GTX 760 currently. Not sure if I will need any extra things to make the GTX 780 to work etc. I am currently gaming on an 1920x1080p screen. The computer is an http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...G&Q=&A=details

Any help would be appreciated.
 

n0x1ous

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nvidia recommends a 600w power supply for a 780 so your a little iffy there.......760 will be solid on 1080 so see how you like it in the games you play first before thinking of moving up to a 780
 

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nvidia recommends a 600w power supply for a 780 so your a little iffy there.......760 will be solid on 1080 so see how you like it in the games you play first before thinking of moving up to a 780

How can I find out what power supply that my PC has?
Can I change the power supply and is it inexpensive?
The GTX 760 can not run BF4 on Ultra settings @60 fps. Only around 40. I want to be able to run most games on Ultra max settings @60 fps.
 

Majcric

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Any chance you can send the PC back and just build from scratch. You could have that whole setup with 780 included for that price.
 

CRV

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Any chance you can send the PC back and just build from scratch. You could have that whole setup with 780 included for that price.

Actually at this time that is not an option. I actually got it for $780 on Amazon.
 

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Easiest way is to take the side off and write down what's written on the side of it (power supply).

Looks like the 780 would just barely get you there, if you want 60 and you're getting 40. It's 50-70% faster:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1038?vs=1036

My suggestion in interim is to drop a setting or two from Ultra max to just ultra, or high. You can probably get the 760 to give you 60fps by bringing shadows down one notch, which may not even be noticeable.

Do you plan on selling the card you have?
 

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This is going to be subjective especially depending on the users needs, but I don't feel the 780 offers enough performance to justify the additional cost if you already own a 760/770/670/680/.

I'd recommend waiting for Maxwell with lower power consumption at a better performance lvl.
 

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Easiest way is to take the side off and write down what's written on the side of it (power supply).

Looks like the 780 would just barely get you there, if you want 60 and you're getting 40. It's 50-70% faster:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1038?vs=1036

My suggestion in interim is to drop a setting or two from Ultra max to just ultra, or high. You can probably get the 760 to give you 60fps by bringing shadows down one notch, which may not even be noticeable.

Do you plan on selling the card you have?

I can run BF4 on high settings and get 50-65 fps. Ultra settings around 40-50 fps. I am currently running it on medium settings, as it feels better for me and it gets me up to around 100 fps. I just want to be able to do 60 fps on Ultra settings on BF4.

Thanks I will check my computer when I have time and yes I will be selling the card that came with the PC.
 

Majcric

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I had a look a little closer and it looked like you got the chopped 760, in other words not a true 760. I can definitely imagine your disappointment.
 

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I had a look a little closer and it looked like you got the chopped 760, in other words not a true 760. I can definitely imagine your disappointment.

Yes, after I got the PC. Found out that it was an OEM version 3GB GTX 760. Maybe a original GTX 760 would be a lot better.
 

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From googling, it seem like my PC has a 500W power supply, but I will check it out tomorrow.
 

Yuriman

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A decent power supply isn't all that expensive, and I like to have a spare around. The gap has to be a little larger for me to get the upgrade itch (would need to be 780Ti or maybe even dual GPU in this case), but I suspect you'll be satisfied with where you end up.

Keep in mind that a lot of games have some idiot graphical settings which offer literally zero visual difference and can chop your framerates considerably.
 

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Try setting the game on Ultra (or High) with post processing at low. If that doesn't work, a R9 280x or GTX 770 for around $300 AR should be sufficient.

Isn't BF4 pretty CPU intensive as well? I'd make sure your CPU is sufficient to get 60 fps before buying a GTX 780.
 

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Looking the specs of that computer it looks like the 760 is one of the 192-bit 3GB OEM models, can you check with GPUz to confirm this?

If so then you would definitely get more performance with a card that has a wider memory bandwidth. Most 760's have a 256Bit bus which offers 1/3rd additional performance. I have to overclock my memory to get good performance from my 670.
 

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How can I find out what power supply that my PC has?
Can I change the power supply and is it inexpensive?
The GTX 760 can not run BF4 on Ultra settings @60 fps. Only around 40. I want to be able to run most games on Ultra max settings @60 fps.

It was listed in the spec as 500w. probably a no-namer. you can change it out to something decent for not too much money. yes you will need more than a 760 to run Ultra BF4.
 

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Looking the specs of that computer it looks like the 760 is one of the 192-bit 3GB OEM models, can you check with GPUz to confirm this?

If so then you would definitely get more performance with a card that has a wider memory bandwidth. Most 760's have a 256Bit bus which offers 1/3rd additional performance. I have to overclock my memory to get good performance from my 670.

Yes, it is the OEM 192 bit model.
 

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I was wondering if I can add another card, instead of replacing it? If so, would it have to the the same card and spec (192 bit)?
 

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I was wondering if I can add another card, instead of replacing it? If so, would it have to the the same card and spec (192 bit)?

yes it would have to be the same card.

you are better off replacing that. Consider an r9 290 too if you are open to both camps.....
 

CRV

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yes it would have to be the same card.

you are better off replacing that. Consider an r9 290 too if you are open to both camps.....

Yes, I did also looked at the R9 290, but heard about noise and heat issues, so that's why I picked the 780. How big a difference will a R9 290 Make from a 760?
 

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Yes, I did also looked at the R9 290, but heard about noise and heat issues, so that's why I picked the 780. How big a difference will a R9 290 Make from a 760?

big difference. the reference 290 should be avoided but if you get an aftermarket Sapphire tri-x or MSI gaming 290 the noise and heat issues are mitigated.

290 will crush a 760. Its about even with a 780

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1068?vs=1038
 

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I was wondering if I can add another card, instead of replacing it? If so, would it have to the the same card and spec (192 bit)?

No, your motherboard only has 1 pci-e x16 slot.

I'd actually look at an AMD card so you can use Mantle to alleviate the cpu bottleneck. Something like a 270X. A 280 or 280X would be even better but I remember you complaining about pc noise and a 280 will not help with that (nor will a 780 btw).
 

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CRV

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No, your motherboard only has 1 pci-e x16 slot.

I'd actually look at an AMD card so you can use Mantle to alleviate the cpu bottleneck. Something like a 270X. A 280 or 280X would be even better but I remember you complaining about pc noise and a 280 will not help with that (nor will a 780 btw).

Bottleneck? From what I researched, people mention that the i5 4440 should be able to handle any single card without bottlenecking. Is this wrong?
 

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That's good to know. Plus I can save money in the process. But how come on here http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290-vs-GeForce-GTX-770 it says that the 770 wins. Is it just biased?

Depends what you mean by wins? The 770 is cheaper and will run cooler, quieter, and use less power. But just talking performance, it will lose to the 290.

But yes, thats a terrible comparison where they seem to put the smallest value on actual performance differences (plus using Civ 5 decompress as a big factor...really?). Stick to reputable sites for comparisons and reviews.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1068?vs=1037

I mean the 770 is a nice card and all for its price point, dont get me wrong, but its not going to touch a 290 in performance. If you want a blower style cooler to exit heat out the case, then certainly stick to Nvidia's reference NVTTM coolers.
 
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