GTX 690 listed @egg $1200 (auto-notify)

[aaksheytalwar]

It wasn't just the card. The card was just $750ish and that is with local warranty,

 

[dualsmp]

$7.87 shipping kills the deal.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Bought the card locally, in India, no shipping.

 

[Atreidin]

Well I guess I pretty much called it, lol.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=33360064&highlight=#post33360064

 

[RussianSensation]

Too bad Gigabyte GTX670 OC in SLI for <$900 will be just as fast as this $1,200 one.

 

[Dark Shroud]

Well I guess I pretty much called it, lol.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=33360064&highlight=#post33360064

Anyone who wasn't blinded knew that was going to happen because it always happens with the duel GPU cards.

I just find it odd that people aren't so quick to be vocal about the price gouging by Nvidia as opposed to AMD.

 

[toyota]

Anyone who wasn't blinded knew that was going to happen because it always happens with the duel GPU cards.

I just find it odd that people aren't so quick to be vocal about the price gouging by Nvidia as opposed to AMD.

that's mostly in your head because people will complain about prices from either company. heck the vast majority think $999 was already an insane price for a card. the only reason more people dont complain about the gouging on top of that is because nearly no one here is actually going to buy one anyway. you will see more bitching about cards that many people would actually buy.

 

[lopri]

Anyone who wasn't blinded knew that was going to happen because it always happens with the duel GPU cards.

I just find it odd that people aren't so quick to be vocal about the price gouging by Nvidia as opposed to AMD.

You have to hand it to NV's marketing dept.

 

[Dark Shroud]

that's mostly in your head because people will complain about prices from either company. heck the vast majority think $999 was already an insane price for a card. the only reason more people dont complain about the gouging on top of that is because nearly no one here is actually going to buy one anyway. you will see more bitching about cards that many people would actually buy.

I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt on this one because that is a super niche card. I also think people have short memories.

I'm just tired of people still going on about how the HD 7970 needs to go down in price further.

I'm going to stop here me getting into a finger pointing rant doesn't help.

 

[3DVagabond]

that's mostly in your head because people will complain about prices from either company. heck the vast majority think $999 was already an insane price for a card. the only reason more people dont complain about the gouging on top of that is because nearly no one here is actually going to buy one anyway. you will see more bitching about cards that many people would actually buy.

It's because it's AMD's fault. /sarc

 

[RussianSensation]

I just find it odd that people aren't so quick to be vocal about the price gouging by Nvidia as opposed to AMD.

Many people feel that both NV and AMD has raised prices and given us a lackluster generational improvement. This is coming from both AMD and NV users. GTX680 being 35% faster than 580 is nothing to write home about. See more explanation below.

that's mostly in your head because people will complain about prices from either company. heck the vast majority think $999 was already an insane price for a card. the only reason more people dont complain about the gouging on top of that is because nearly no one here is actually going to buy one anyway. you will see more bitching about cards that many people would actually buy.

:thumbsup:

Exactly. HD6970 going from $370 to $550 is a big deal. GTX590 going from $700 to $1000 is almost irrelevant. People who buy GTX590 can probably afford a card for $1K anyway. Also, when single-GPUs go up in price, it affects the entire single-GPU line-up, which inevitably affects all buyers from $100-$500 GPUs:

HD6850 $179 --> HD7850 $249
HD6870 $239 --> HD7870 $349
HD6950 $299 --> HD7950 $449 (now fell to $399)
HD6970 $369 --> HD7970 $549 (now fell to $479)

Single-GPU line-up increasing in prices has just affected 6 AMD cards (I didn't include HD7750/7770 as they are complete junk compared to HD6850/6870 today).

When a dual-GPU card increases in price, it only affects people who were buying $700-800 GPUs (i.e., I doubt GTX295/HD5970/6990/GTX590 owners are as budget conscious).

 

[sandorski]

Many people feel that both NV and AMD has raised prices and given us a lackluster generational improvement. This is coming from both AMD and NV users. GTX680 being 35% faster than 580 is nothing to write home about. See more explanation below.



:thumbsup:

Exactly. HD6970 going from $370 to $550 is a big deal. GTX590 going from $700 to $1000 is almost irrelevant. People who buy GTX590 can probably afford a card for $1K anyway. Also, when single-GPUs go up in price, it affects the entire single-GPU line-up, which inevitably affects all buyers from $100-$500 GPUs:

HD6850 $179 --> HD7850 $249
HD6870 $239 --> HD7870 $349
HD6950 $299 --> HD7950 $449 (now fell to $399)
HD6970 $369 --> HD7970 $549 (now fell to $479)

Single-GPU line-up increasing in prices has just affected 6 AMD cards (I didn't include HD7750/7770 as they are complete junk compared to HD6850/6870 today).

When a dual-GPU card increases in price, it only affects people who were buying $700-800 GPUs (i.e., I doubt GTX295/HD5970/6990/GTX590 owners are as budget conscious).

I still think that's the wrong way to look at it. AMD does not cater to the AMD Video Card Market, it caters to the Video Card Market. As such, the Price of the 7970 was perfectly reasonable when it was released.

 

[AdamK47]

It's May 7th. Is this "wider availability" thing true?

 

[aaksheytalwar]

sandorski
Agreed.

RussianSensation
Agreed with you too, but sandorski has a point which can't be refuted either.

 

[railven]

I still think that's the wrong way to look at it. AMD does not cater to the AMD Video Card Market, it caters to the Video Card Market. As such, the Price of the 7970 was perfectly reasonable when it was released.

This is definitely the part that irritates me the most when we get into this price arguments. No one seems to acknowledge that GTX 580 launched at $500 and was selling for $490+ (without rebates) almost 14 months later.

Everyone expected a faster product to sell for less, a lot less. They have no justification outside of being consumers (which I don't fault them on) but looking at the markets, as I argued the markets will determine things, AMD saw an oppurtnity and they took it. ANd now people are LOLing because AMD has egg on their face, yet AMD still sold cards at those prices (just like GTX 690 will sell, GTX 580 sold at almost MSRP a year later.) If the markets support it the only person who should be LOL'ed are the morons making claims based on personal desires.

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Yes this subject does irritate me haha.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

This is definitely the part that irritates me the most when we get into this price arguments. No one seems to acknowledge that GTX 580 launched at $500 and was selling for $490+ (without rebates) almost 14 months later.

Everyone expected a faster product to sell for less, a lot less. They have no justification outside of being consumers (which I don't fault them on) but looking at the markets, as I argued the markets will determine things, AMD saw an oppurtnity and they took it. ANd now people are LOLing because AMD has egg on their face, yet AMD still sold cards at those prices (just like GTX 690 will sell, GTX 580 sold at almost MSRP a year later.) If the markets support it the only person who should be LOL'ed are the morons making claims based on personal desires.

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Yes this subject does irritate me haha.

This

 

[RussianSensation]

I still think that's the wrong way to look at it. AMD does not cater to the AMD Video Card Market, it caters to the Video Card Market. As such, the Price of the 7970 was perfectly reasonable when it was released.

From a business point of a view, it was good. If a business can charge as much $ for a product and sell it, more power to them. That doesn't mean the product is fairly priced though in terms of what's expected based on Moore's Law and how technology gets cheaper and faster over time. FX-8150 came out at $260+ and that's still overpriced even at $199. Tons of people bought the FX-8150 for $260. Does that mean it was fairly priced? No, not even close. The argument that products are always reasonably priced because it's determined by the market assumes that consumers are rational. Sometimes, that's not always the case.

It was priced since NV had no card that matched the 7970, but from a generational leap vs. price/performance curve, it was underwhelming. We are now seeing slow adjustment to Moore's law on price/performance curve. GTX670 OC @ $430 is going to provide faster gaming performance than a reference HD7970 $550 did just 4 months ago.

This is definitely the part that irritates me the most when we get into this price arguments. No one seems to acknowledge that GTX 580 launched at $500 and was selling for $490+ (without rebates) almost 14 months later.

This is completely not true. Most of us here acknowledged that HD6950 @ 6970 and GTX570 OC were both far better values than the 580 was. Hardly anyone here recommended the 580 throughout its life. People bought them on our forum but it was hardly recommended here. Also, many people thought that GTX580 was massively overpriced when HD7950 launched which is one of the main reasons HD7950's price was being questioned. Actually, a lot of people felt that GTX580 should have dropped to $380 by the time HD7950 launched. So you stating that most people here didn't acknowledge that GTX580 was very overpriced is not true.

There were even threads with rumors that NV was dropping the price of GTX580 to $380 way before HD7950's launch. As early as December 1, 2011, there were hints that GTX580 would drop to $380. I can't even count how many times a $379.99 EVGA GTX570 OC with 797mhz clock speeds was recommended on our forums during the time GTX580 sold for $500.

It's May 7th. Is this "wider availability" thing true?

Doesn't look like it. GTX690 was awesome for about a week and now GTX670 SLI OC kinda makes it meh unless someone can only fit 1 GPU into their small form factor case.