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GTX 260 hits $149

Wreckage

Wreckage

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http://shop2.frys.com/product/5636781

I guess this ends the debate over the $149 price point fight.

Something must be coming soon from NVIDIA to fill the $200+ gap.

I'm also guessing the 1GB GTS250 will be found for much less than $150 after launch.


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We have a forum for posting hot deals. This is not it. In any case, someone else has already posted this in the proper place.

AmberClad
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I doubt the 192SP inventory is sustainable, it was supposed to be EOL months ago. Most likely the last few B&M retailers burning off inventory, something they should've done long ago at $200 or so. Potential for some great deals though, there were quite a few reports of people getting 216SP parts in the last few weeks Newegg and other e-tailers clearanced the 192SP part.
 
Originally posted by: angry hampster
It does? Isn't the 4870 a better performer than the 192sp GTX260?
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They're pretty close in most cases with the typical wins/losses depending on game. The GTX 260 has the clear advantage though with nearly 2x as much VRAM. And of course, if you factor in overclocking, the GTX 260 has the edge there as well with a typically higher % overclock and increase in performance.
 
Originally posted by: SSChevy2001
It's says preorder on the site. Why would they need to preorder 192sp 260?

The other 2 GTX260 they have or well over $200.
http://shop2.frys.com/search?s...y_string=gtx+260&cat=0
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Again, the linked part is the 192SP, which looks like its being clearanced by Fry's. This happened before Christmas for most e-tailers as the 65nm parts were being phased out and the 192SP version went EOL for good. There is no 55nm 192SP 260. The two other 260s are 216SP parts and as you can see, the 65nm part is actually priced higher than the newer 55nm part. This just comes down to some product/inventory manager not keeping track of all their SKUs, which is common for large chains and B&Ms. As for why its on pre-order, its most likely due to stock being pulled from retail stores and either shipped direct or sent to their warehouse/fulfillment center first, then shipped out.
 
That is a good price. Either vendors are gearing up for some new cards or the recession is forcing prices down. Probably some of both. Lot of great cards out there for killer deals.
 
shipping is not free and for me there will also be tax added to it.

From various reviews 4870 is superior and it is cheaper (already dipping closer to $100 before), why are these two guys try so hard to push for nvidia ?

are they paid to do it? I dont care who is better, but clearly current bang for the buck goes to 4870.
 
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
shipping is not free and for me there will also be tax added to it.

From various reviews 4870 is superior and it is cheaper (already dipping closer to $100 before), why are these two guys try so hard to push for nvidia ?

are they paid to do it? I dont care who is better, but clearly current bang for the buck goes to 4870.
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Either they're paid to do it, they're given free cards to do it, or they're idiots.
 
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
shipping is not free and for me there will also be tax added to it.

From various reviews 4870 is superior and it is cheaper (already dipping closer to $100 before), why are these two guys try so hard to push for nvidia ?

are they paid to do it? I dont care who is better, but clearly current bang for the buck goes to 4870.
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Rofl, if you can find a 4870 for close to $100 no one would argue that'd be the card to buy. Heck not even ATI can compete with that price as 2 of them would be as fast as their $400 part for half the price (except when it tanks due to lack of VRAM).

The fact people need to go back to launch drivers to show the 4870 with an advantage just shows they're not telling the whole story. Look at some Rel 180 reviews or even Core 216 vs 1GB 4870 reviews to see more recent results with updated drivers and newer games, and take note of 1GB vs 512MB 4870 differences.

There won't be much or any difference for many games, but in the ones that do benefit from more VRAM that 512MB 4870 is crippled to the point it looks very much like the lower-end parts its supposed to run circles around (4850, 9800GTX+ etc). At least 3 games absolutely benefit from that difference in VRAM now: Fallout 3, FarCry 2, and GTA4. Crysis can in certain situations, and I believe Oblivion does as well.

This situation is only going to continue to get worst, not better as games constantly demand more VRAM due to resolution, texture size increases and increased levels of AA. Just ask the people who bought 320MB GTS G80 instead of spending $50 more for the 640MB versions. In any case, I really don't care what people buy, I'm just telling you what'd I'd do with my own money. At $150 the 4870 is a pretty good buy when compared to the $200 1GB 4870 and GTX 260 Core 216, but there's no way I'd get it over a GTX 260 192SP that has nearly double the VRAM.
 
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Either they're paid to do it, they're given free cards to do it, or they're idiots.
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Only an idiot would think there's no benefit to more VRAM in current games, resolutions and AA settings.
 
Originally posted by: roid450
FWIW, my core 216 did noticeably better in games and benchies than mt 192 core one.
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Yeah, the core 216 is more equal to the 4870. The regular 260 isn't as good a card as the 4870 though. If they dropped the core 216 down to 150, that would be nice.
 
Originally posted by: Wreckage
http://shop2.frys.com/product/5636781

I guess this ends the debate over the $149 price point fight.

Something must be coming soon from NVIDIA to fill the $200+ gap.

I'm also guessing the 1GB GTS250 will be found for much less than $150 after launch.


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Wait a second.. that's a rebate. I thought you only factored in money out of pocket and not rebates..

edit: nm, that was referring to NE prices VS MSRP.
 
Originally posted by: kmmatney
I think the new pricing kicks in March 10 - we'll hopefully see how things pan out then.
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Lower pricing is always good, I can't imagine why anyone would be upset by such news.

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Either they're paid to do it, they're given free cards to do it, or they're idiots.
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Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Either they're paid to do it, they're given free cards to do it, or they're idiots.
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Only an idiot would think there's no benefit to more VRAM in current games, resolutions and AA settings.
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Looking at benchmarks, even with more ram, GTX260 is left behind the 4870 512. Isn't this the reason Nvidia released the gtx 260 C216?

http://www.tomshardware.com/re...n-hd-4870,1964-19.html
 
Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Either they're paid to do it, they're given free cards to do it, or they're idiots.
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Only an idiot would think there's no benefit to more VRAM in current games, resolutions and AA settings.
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Looking at benchmarks, even with more ram, GTX260 is left behind the 4870 512. Isn't this the reason Nvidia released the gtx 260 C216?

http://www.tomshardware.com/re...n-hd-4870,1964-19.html
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That's an old review prior to even the 180 driver release that saw huge gains for the 260. Not to mention how even before the 180 series it pulled ahead at higher resolutions.
 
Originally posted by: Wreckage

That's an old review prior to even the 180 driver release that saw huge gains for the 260. Not to mention how even before the 180 series it pulled ahead at higher resolutions.
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ATi catalysts have also improved since the great 180 drivers were released.

So can you please link me some benchmarks where the gtx 260 c192 is in front of the 4870 512!?
Saying that the card is faster doesn't make the card faster, is it? Prove that it is so.
 
It's a nice price for as long as it lasts. Simple as that.

I still remember buying my 8800gts 320mb, and I shelled out 280 euro's for it, and it was considered to be a great price. Nowadays I could spend nearly half, and still have the relative performance the 8800gts 320mb offered compared to the 8800gtx, which was top dog back then.
 
Originally posted by: error8
Looking at benchmarks, even with more ram, GTX260 is left behind the 4870 512. Isn't this the reason Nvidia released the gtx 260 C216?

http://www.tomshardware.com/re...n-hd-4870,1964-19.html
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Originally posted by: error8
ATi catalysts have also improved since the great 180 drivers were released.

So can you please link me some benchmarks where the gtx 260 c192 is in front of the 4870 512!?
Saying that the card is faster doesn't make the card faster, is it? Prove that it is so.
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Rofl, this is the point all the revisionists start selectively linking reviews. Again, if you're going to make the argument newer drivers benefitted equally on the 4870, why link older reviews with old drivers and old games to begin with?

Comparison thread with Big Bang 2 reviews

It was pretty well established in that thread based on 180 driver reviews that the 216 was convincingly faster than the 1GB 4870 and that the 192 260 traded blows depending on the game. Even if newer Catalysts improved performance for the 4870, its not going to magically overcome the shortcomings of less VRAM in situations where VRAM is an issue.

If it comes down to a few FPS difference between the 260 and 512MB 4870 for most games but a massive difference in a handful of games that require more VRAM, I'd certainly choose the 260 as that difference would be far greater in actual gameplay. Again, this situation is only going to bet worst, not better as newer games demand more VRAM.





 
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