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gorcorps

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I wouldn't even consider you a gamer if you think that...15 hours in a WEEK is nothing.

for a responsible adult, anything more than two hours a day can be huge TBH

I don't even have a kid and that's a lot of gaming time to me. Between work, cleaning the house, keeping up on yard work, and being out with friends there's not a whole lot of time left. If I was still in an apartment and didn't want to see anybody then I'd probably have more time, but those days are behind me.
 

lilrayray69

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I still can't figure out why this game seems to hate it when my GPU is overclocked...Even relatively low OC's, it'll crash within an hour - clocks that are perfectly stable in any other game or benchmark I run.
 

DeadFred

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that's not what I would call a life. that's what I would call lame

having friends and hitting on girls in bars would be called a life
HA!

Been there done that, you'll live and learn. Unless you are one of those sad sacks who seem to never grow up and commit.
 
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that's not what I would call a life. that's what I would call lame

having friends and hitting on girls in bars would be called a life

Have fun being the old guy in the club creeping everybody out because you can't deal with the pain and loneliness that comes from going home to an empty house every night. Don't get me wrong, there's a time in your life where you absolutely should be going out with friends, hitting on girls, living it up... but that doesn't last forever, and the people who try to drag it out are so much sadder than the people who get married too young.
 

Eric1987

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Its not, unless....you have a job, a wife, kids, other hobbies. You know, a life. :D



Or doing whatever you want while finding your place in this world. Why do people assume if you don't follow the sheep you're not doing the right thing? Just because someone doesn't want marriage or kids it isn't a life? I live my life the way I do on purpose. I WANT to have time to do what I want. I am 28 years old so I am no child.
 

DeadFred

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Or doing whatever you want while finding your place in this world. Why do people assume if you don't follow the sheep you're not doing the right thing? Just because someone doesn't want marriage or kids it isn't a life? I live my life the way I do on purpose. I WANT to have time to do what I want. I am 28 years old so I am no child.
LOL

Calm down dude, it was only a response to your "you're not a true gamer if you dont play at least 60 hours a week" post, and yes I embellished that quote just a tad.

BTW, if you are 28 and still havent found your place in this world.........oh never mind. :biggrin:
 

cmdrdredd

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I play a lot of games each week, but that's mostly on days I binge. Like saturday, I played Mortal Kombat X for 18 hours or something ridiculous.
 

DeadFred

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I play a lot of games each week, but that's mostly on days I binge. Like saturday, I played Mortal Kombat X for 18 hours or something ridiculous.
Yikes, thats a lot. But I yeah binge sometimes too just look at my BF3 & 4 stats, usually in the winter during bad weather.

I see some folks in here are just too sensitive for my sense of humor. LOL
 

StinkyPinky

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I find it impossible to play more than probably about 2.5 hours at a time. I just get tired....ageing I guess. When I was a teen I could play Civ 2 for the entire day (literally from breakfast to dinner).
 

PlanetJosh

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About gaming hours I have a little over 14,000 hours in Guild Wars since 2006. Doing the math that means over 25 hours a week every single week for 9 years. Played other games too to add to it somewhat. But the family is doing well financially which I depend on and I'm semi retired with extra time on my hands.

Oh and I could spend days wandering around in Gta V looking at all the stuff again but at 1440 res. Yeah I'm into it for the gfx.

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i7 3820 3.6 no oc || Sapphire R9 290 4gb || Win 7 Pro
Asus P9 X79 || DDR3 16gb Corsair 1600 || WD HD 1tb || Onboard Sound
Cooler Master 650w || 27” Samsung Lcd 2560x1440 || Thermaltake Case
 

destrekor

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About gaming hours I have a little over 14,000 hours in Guild Wars since 2006. Doing the math that means over 25 hours a week every single week for 9 years. Played other games too to add to it somewhat. But the family is doing well financially which I depend on and I'm semi retired with extra time on my hands.

Oh and I could spend days wandering around in Gta V looking at all the stuff again but at 1440 res. Yeah I'm into it for the gfx.

Do you have a counselor? Do you think you should? I think you should. That sounds like an addiction.

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Asus P9 X79 || DDR3 16gb Corsair 1600 || WD HD 1tb || Onboard Sound
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Are you copy/pasting what should be your sig in every post?
Do you know you can create a signature to save you that step? Here's a link to where you can create a signature.
 

destrekor

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Well after some research, I ended up installing RadeonPro (why is this so out of date?`` Oh, how I miss you Nvidia Inspector - an amazing tool, immensely powerful and kept up to date).

I set the following:

[Visual Tab]
Anisotropic Filtering - 16x (Override Application - I also disabled AF in the game itself)
Tessellation Control - Application Controls

[Advanced Tab]
Force Triple-Buffering(OpenGL) *
Anisotropic optimization
Trilinear optimization
Flip Queue Size: 1

[Tweaks Tab]
VSync control: Always On (I made sure Vsync was disabled in game)
Triple Buffering: enabled
Force Process High Priority: Enabled **


* - likely unnecessary, this was enabled when selecting Dynamic Vsync, which I decided to test by changing to Always On so that I could control Triple-buffering and remove the "lock frame rate" setting; however, the frame rate was never locked in-game, but I do suspect "Always On" is more favorable.

** - I also suspect this setting to be unnecessary, however, it seemed a good idea to enable and I haven't conducted further testing with it disabled. [I've done enough testing, I've only troubleshooted since the game released. It's time I play, dammit!]

In RivaTuner, I set the framerate cap for GTA5.exe to be 59fps. I don't know if there is anything special in sticking with 59 instead of 60fps on a 60hz display, but forever ago I had read it was a good idea for whatever reason, and around that time I had actually noticed a positive benefit to reduction of frame display issues while avoiding actually enabling true Vsync.

In the end, with the right management of graphic settings, I have managed to reduce microstutter, though I do still get stuttering. This I cannot swear to be issues other than over-zealous graphic settings, however, it still seems like frame rate can drop more than it ought to. I have not tested my current settings with a single GPU; I might decide to take on that task tomorrow, however, I am itching to just get back into the game and get a feel for it so I can finally get back online with my buddies.

After repeated configuration tests, I feel I have removed the possibility that any issues are popping up due to my hardware/software configuration. It remains a remote possibility, however I feel it is almost certainly a software issue. Either the GPU drivers need further work, or the game needs a new patch. The ultimate answer is likely both. Hopefully this comes sooner rather than later, as it definitely seems that, regardless of a smooth or stuttering experience, multi-GPU utilization is not scaling nearly as well as it should.


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`` I know why RadeonPro hasn't been further developed, and I figure I should make that bit clear. I still wish to voice my frustration that a tool as awesome as Nvidia Inspector remains in active development and immensely useful, whereas a similar tool for AMD drivers might as well be an ancient and rarely practiced cult belief as opposed to a powerful and routinely useful utility for power users. I had to use Nvidia Inspector often for the past few generations, during which I owned the following Nvidia products: an FX 5600, 8800 GT, 285 GTX, and finally 2x 560 Ti 2GB in SLI. Now with 2x 290X in Crossfire, I've got some adjustments to make. Losing extensive adaptability is not one I had hoped to make, but if things can be made to work well in the end (without significant delay, I guess I cannot complain too much. I'm simply a very impatient person, and having a desire to enjoy the best games while they are brand new, I expect multi-GPU setups to suffer some serious issues, I only hope they are kept minimized prior to resolution.
 
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escrow4

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LOL

Calm down dude, it was only a response to your "you're not a true gamer if you dont play at least 60 hours a week" post, and yes I embellished that quote just a tad.

BTW, if you are 28 and still havent found your place in this world.........oh never mind. :biggrin:

Is this still going around? Not everyone wants a family with a wife who won't give it up unless you buy her a new chain or handbag or 3 kids running around screaming draining the loot continuously, then they grow up and piss off somewhere topped off with a mortgage you can barely afford on a dump that is one fart away from falling apart. That isn't a place in the world, that is prison.

Would you rather be Michael or Trevor? I game 20hrs+ every week the more the better. Will probably polish off the campaign this week. Looking way way more forward to Witcher III.
 

futurefields

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Jun 2, 2012
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Well after some research, I ended up installing RadeonPro (why is this so out of date?`` Oh, how I miss you Nvidia Inspector - an amazing tool, immensely powerful and kept up to date).

I set the following:

[Visual Tab]
Anisotropic Filtering - 16x (Override Application - I also disabled AF in the game itself)
Tessellation Control - Application Controls

[Advanced Tab]
Force Triple-Buffering(OpenGL) *
Anisotropic optimization
Trilinear optimization
Flip Queue Size: 1

[Tweaks Tab]
VSync control: Always On (I made sure Vsync was disabled in game)
Triple Buffering: enabled
Force Process High Priority: Enabled **


* - likely unnecessary, this was enabled when selecting Dynamic Vsync, which I decided to test by changing to Always On so that I could control Triple-buffering and remove the "lock frame rate" setting; however, the frame rate was never locked in-game, but I do suspect "Always On" is more favorable.

** - I also suspect this setting to be unnecessary, however, it seemed a good idea to enable and I haven't conducted further testing with it disabled. [I've done enough testing, I've only troubleshooted since the game released. It's time I play, dammit!]

In RivaTuner, I set the framerate cap for GTA5.exe to be 59fps. I don't know if there is anything special in sticking with 59 instead of 60fps on a 60hz display, but forever ago I had read it was a good idea for whatever reason, and around that time I had actually noticed a positive benefit to reduction of frame display issues while avoiding actually enabling true Vsync.

In the end, with the right management of graphic settings, I have managed to reduce microstutter, though I do still get stuttering. This I cannot swear to be issues other than over-zealous graphic settings, however, it still seems like frame rate can drop more than it ought to. I have not tested my current settings with a single GPU; I might decide to take on that task tomorrow, however, I am itching to just get back into the game and get a feel for it so I can finally get back online with my buddies.

After repeated configuration tests, I feel I have removed the possibility that any issues are popping up due to my hardware/software configuration. It remains a remote possibility, however I feel it is almost certainly a software issue. Either the GPU drivers need further work, or the game needs a new patch. The ultimate answer is likely both. Hopefully this comes sooner rather than later, as it definitely seems that, regardless of a smooth or stuttering experience, multi-GPU utilization is not scaling nearly as well as it should.


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`` I know why RadeonPro hasn't been further developed, and I figure I should make that bit clear. I still wish to voice my frustration that a tool as awesome as Nvidia Inspector remains in active development and immensely useful, whereas a similar tool for AMD drivers might as well be an ancient and rarely practiced cult belief as opposed to a powerful and routinely useful utility for power users. I had to use Nvidia Inspector often for the past few generations, during which I owned the following Nvidia products: an FX 5600, 8800 GT, 285 GTX, and finally 2x 560 Ti 2GB in SLI. Now with 2x 290X in Crossfire, I've got some adjustments to make. Losing extensive adaptability is not one I had hoped to make, but if things can be made to work well in the end (without significant delay, I guess I cannot complain too much. I'm simply a very impatient person, and having a desire to enjoy the best games while they are brand new, I expect multi-GPU setups to suffer some serious issues, I only hope they are kept minimized prior to resolution.

when i tried using radeonpro i got a weird stutter

i could go into the middle of an empty street, with fps locked to 30, if i spin the camera around every 5-6 seconds there is a stutter

had to disable radeonpro to get rid of it
 

DeadFred

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Jun 4, 2011
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Is this still going around? Not everyone wants a family with a wife who won't give it up unless you buy her a new chain or handbag or 3 kids running around screaming draining the loot continuously, then they grow up and piss off somewhere topped off with a mortgage you can barely afford on a dump that is one fart away from falling apart. That isn't a place in the world, that is prison.

Would you rather be Michael or Trevor? I game 20hrs+ every week the more the better. Will probably polish off the campaign this week. Looking way way more forward to Witcher III.
If you think real family life is factually portrayed in video games then you are obviously spending way too much time playing said video games.

Pro tip: Wipe the cheeto dust off your ratty ass T-shirt, climb out of your mom's basement, get some sun, and meet some real people! :p
 

SLU Aequitas

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Is this still going around? Not everyone wants a family with a wife who won't give it up unless you buy her a new chain or handbag or 3 kids running around screaming draining the loot continuously, then they grow up and piss off somewhere topped off with a mortgage you can barely afford on a dump that is one fart away from falling apart. That isn't a place in the world, that is prison.

Would you rather be Michael or Trevor? I game 20hrs+ every week the more the better. Will probably polish off the campaign this week. Looking way way more forward to Witcher III.
Pro tip: you're really not qualified to talk about this. Throwing out video game characters as examples is just icing on the cake lol!
 

5150Joker

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HA!

Been there done that, you'll live and learn. Unless you are one of those sad sacks who seem to never grow up and commit.

I think it's sad that people feel the need to "grow up and commit" by marrying some slut that slept with 10-20 other guys before you and handing her 50% of your earnings while being tied down by the kids she pops out. The other guy has the right idea. Being married is for the sad sacks.
 

Oyeve

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Oct 18, 1999
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I'm nearly 49, have a son who will be 21 shortly, and I have been playing video games since 1974. Hell, since GTAV hit on the PC I have already logged 96 hours. I have raised my son successfully, he is a budding artist (draws amazingly) and he is actually making $$$. My ex-wife (ex not because of games but she was a lazy sack of doo-doo) is so technically challenged that she never in her life played games. She hates it with a passion. Gaming brought me and my son together years ago and we still play together to this day. He isnt sheltered at home eating cheetos til 4am. He is actually outside more than inside. Actually, his social life is crimping MY gaming life! Little bastard!!!
 
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destrekor

Lifer
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I think it's sad that people feel the need to "grow up and commit" by marrying some slut that slept with 10-20 other guys before you and handing her 50% of your earnings while being tied down by the kids she pops out. The other guy has the right idea. Being married is for the sad sacks.

Heh, this is off topic, but I'm a bachelor, and you know what, I actually look forward to the day when I settle down with a house of my own and a family. I want to raise a kid or two (if I could skip numerous years, even better! lol), I want to have a yard to do things with.

Ideally, that kind of life isn't what makes things good or bad, it's the person you settle down with, and what you do for a living. Find something you like to do, or at least something that doesn't drain the soul. Find a woman who actually has self respect and has ambition.

Life doesn't have to be the way TV, Hollywood, books or games portray it, be it good or bad.

However, to each his own. Plenty of people don't ever want kids and want to live life on their own (and die alone). Nothing wrong with that. But don't presume that what other people have chosen is some kind of life where they are boring and can barely call themselves happy; it doesn't have to be that way, not if you go about things right. Thus, why I still have no kids and am not tied down right now. If I were? My life would suck, and would probably have a low-income life of which I would not be proud. I might be 30 before I find someone, and I couldn't be happier for that. There are some bad fish in the pond in that group, but there are still plenty of great ones, the ones who also found some rock to hide under while they went about getting their life straight, put themselves in a cocoon or something, and came out for the better. Find one of those that suits you, and life won't suck.
 

destrekor

Lifer
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when i tried using radeonpro i got a weird stutter

i could go into the middle of an empty street, with fps locked to 30, if i spin the camera around every 5-6 seconds there is a stutter

had to disable radeonpro to get rid of it

What were you trying to enable with RadeonPro? You probably can't just go enabling whatever you want, not everything in RadeonPro is compatible with the latest drivers.
 

destrekor

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I forgot to mention: I can play, but randomly, if I hit Pause to enter the menu, the game might crash.

Up until now, I hadn't actually been playing the game, so I don't know if this was introduced by something I set or if this is a problem that has remained.

Anyone experience this, and/or come up with a solution?