GTA 5 to look way better on PC.

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Aikouka

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It's an internal calculation error in the game. It adds all the RAM across every card you have, which isn't how SLI or XFire actually work, but it also multiplies the VRAM usage by the number of cards you have. So if it says you're using 7 GB out of 8 GB with 2 cards in SLI, you're actually using 3.5 GB out of 4 GB. People with quad Titan Xs were showing VRAM usage of 24 GB out of 48 GB, which was clearly not accurate.

Eh, I have to disagree with you here. I understand what you're getting at, but it seems to keep putting forth this idea that GTA is "wrong". It's not. GTA5 is reporting the VRAM used and overall VRAM used per card, and it's doing that correctly. The problem is that most people don't seem to understand that SLI and CrossFire requires that each card in the array to have the same data in memory to support AFR (alternate-frame rendering). So, when you see 24GB used on 4 cards, that's just because it's the same 6GB of data used necessarily yet redundantly.

In other words, it's not wrong, it's just confusing to people without that technical knowledge.

Anybody playing on a G3258 Pentium? From feedback here the game sounds worth a purchase if my dual core can provide decent frames. I'm seeing other limited feedback that the G3258 (OC'd to 4.0-4.4) is ok for this game.

The game definitely takes a hit from using a dual-core CPU compared to a quad-core from what I've seen in the benchmarks. However, it certainly seemed playable as long as the GPU is good enough.
 

skipsneeky2

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Anybody playing on a G3258 Pentium? From feedback here the game sounds worth a purchase if my dual core can provide decent frames. I'm seeing other limited feedback that the G3258 (OC'd to 4.0-4.4) is ok for this game.

Been benching my game for like the last hour,perhaps i could try out my i7 3770 non k without ht,then try it out with 2 threads.Its clocked at 3.7ghz so it MAY be comparable to a stock G3258 as far as 2 threads go.
 

JeffMD

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In other words, it's not wrong, it's just confusing to people without that technical knowledge.

Its wrong because it should be accounting for redundant data. There is absolutely no reason to count each cards memory as separate entities.
 

Aikouka

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Its wrong because it should be accounting for redundant data. There is absolutely no reason to count each cards memory as separate entities.

It's not wrong because the data is being used. It's an issue of technical ignorance on the part of the people thinking that the game is using all of that data in a distinct manner.

I mean... this is all nitpicky, but I'm the anal type that tends to nitpick. :p
 

skipsneeky2

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Don't bother with a 2 threaded cpu,my 3770 running 2 threads pretty much stutters,freezes and hitches all while sitting at 100% usage.This is in-game and during the benchmark.4 core minimum is truly a legit requirement.

Will try a emulated i3 with 2c+ht next,run the same settings that i posted in post #548 and post results but 4 thread no ht results are wildly varying in scene 1+2 but cpu usage is really up there in the 90's.
 

skipsneeky2

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2 core+ht results,see post #548 for comparison as i used the same settings here.

Frames Per Second (Higher is better) Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 26.509867, 57.058769, 44.440338
Pass 1, 15.162812, 51.240189, 35.395775
Pass 2, 33.396832, 87.347588, 52.243340
Pass 3, 32.715775, 67.138840, 52.965549
Pass 4, 18.814144, 82.963913, 40.893433

Time in milliseconds(ms). (Lower is better). Min, Max, Avg
Pass 0, 17.525789, 37.721806, 22.502079
Pass 1, 19.515932, 65.950829, 28.251959
Pass 2, 11.448513, 29.942961, 19.141195
Pass 3, 14.894508, 30.566294, 18.880198
Pass 4, 12.053433, 53.151501, 24.453804


Not sure if the 1600mhz memory or the additional cache may make any major difference over a real i3 but it does appear that a core i3 should suffice pretty well in this game.My cousin has a i3 3225 so perhaps i could drop that in for true i3 numbers.:)
 

escrow4

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Pentium's get murdered in this game, you want an i3 as a minimum, if not a high clocked (~3.5GHz+) i5:

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Updated CPU benches from the CPU thread. I am experiencing random dips with Grass on Very High, not in forests but fields/desert road combos for some mysterious reason down to 30FPS Vsynced or 50 ish if not. I'll give it another flogging today, see how it runs.
 

D DoUrden

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The Steam forum are a crap fest right now. Can anyone tell me if this game supports full key re-mapping?
 

Artorias

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The Steam forum are a crap fest right now. Can anyone tell me if this game supports full key re-mapping?

If you want a good review I would just wait for Totalbiscuit's video, he goes through all the settings before he even plays the game.
 

JeffMD

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fx6350 is pretty low on that list.. guess its time to look at swapping to an i5 now. ^^

Btw got it playing on my laptop, its using a i7 4500u which is a 2c/2ht. No overall issues really... keeping all the settings at normal I couldn't keep the frame rate at 30 or above on 1080p so it looks like I'll have to find a lower resolution to run it. I didnt do much testing but when I dropped it to 720p it was doing 40fps. Gpu was a 745m.
 

sam_816

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If I am not wrong, this can be played(entirely??!) in first person view, isn't? Has anyone tried it on oculus rift? This level of detailed world must look awesome in VR..
 

JeffMD

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If I am not wrong, this can be played(entirely??!) in first person view, isn't? Has anyone tried it on oculus rift? This level of detailed world must look awesome in VR..

Wait, how many games do you know of support a 6 degrees of motion controller? You can't just plug a rift into any game you want. It will do a stereoscopic display, but head tracking is a whole nother ball game.
 

futurefields

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i keep having an issue where framerate will plummet until i go to the settings and reset vsync, then it works fine. anybody else gotten that?
 

flexy

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Keep your Pagefile on people...

Pagefile, in simple words means that the system can page out parts of the allocated memory to HD to make more physical memory available (if required).

It's a good thing, it's a feature.

Not that I can understand the logic WHY someone would disable it, because in a best-case scenario the system would then allocate real memory (means: you waste your memory by disabling pagefile)..and in a worst-case scenario crash.
 

Zenoth

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Alright, since I've been living under a rock, on the Moon, when it comes to GTAV I do wonder about a few things specifically, so I'm going to ask about them here.

I am aware, so far, that in the "campaign" you can play as any of the three main characters. That's fine. So, questions about that aspect of the game are: 1) Do I * HAVE * to play as all three of them at different times as the story progresses, or can I just entirely ignore one or two of them if I choose to? 2) Do they each have their own respective campaign and their own respective ending(s), or is it one "cross-character" campaign?

Now, something else I wanted to know is: 3) Can I create my own character to just free-roam in the game (for example, such as it is in Saints Row IV) at any given point (before or after the campaign is completed for example)? 3b) If I can in fact create my own character, then can the campaign be completed with him/her or is the campaign "locked" to the three fixed main characters?

That's about it.
 

JeffMD

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The characters must be played together. Each one has many side mission of their own, some ? missions to involve more then one characters. The game gives you missions in batches where you can do them in any order you want, but eventually everyone runs dry until a key mission is played out on one of the characters. I have not run into an instance where you miss out on a mission by "moving ahead quickly". If one mission locks out the other, that mission won't be available until the first is done.

There isn't really a multiple endings, but depending on a choice you make impacts who is alive and dead at the end. When the game completes it becomes a free for all world where you can finish what ever you want, make more money, buy things, ect.

You cannot make a character in single player, you MUST create your own character in multi player. Multiplayer is more like an MMO, and is the end game for gta 5. You make your own characer, level him up, get money, there are activities and missions as well as entire heist that are only doable in multi player.
 
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Zenoth

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The characters must be played together. Each one has many side mission of their own, some ? missions to involve more then one characters. The game gives you missions in batches where you can do them in any order you want, but eventually everyone runs dry until a key mission is played out on one of the characters. I have not run into an instance where you miss out on a mission by "moving ahead quickly". If one mission locks out the other, that mission won't be available until the first is done.

There isn't really a multiple endings, but depending on a choice you make impacts who is alive and dead at the end. When the game completes it becomes a free for all world where you can finish what ever you want, make more money, buy things, ect.

You cannot make a character in single player, you MUST create your own character in multi player.

Thank you very much!
 

futurefields

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i keep having an issue where framerate will plummet until i go to the settings and reset vsync, then it works fine. anybody else gotten that?

this issue is getting worse and worse for me. framerate keeps dropping to 20, i go to settings, disable vsync and it jumps back up to 40's-50's