GT350 Mustang rated at 526 hp, spins to 8250rpm!

DaTT

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Flat plane crank. This was announced long ago. They sound great too.
 

KentState

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Glad to see Ford doing something unique. Have a feeling that dealers will be marking these up like crazy.
 

Ackmed

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Sounds great. I really, really want a 2018 edition. I have a '68 and want one 50 years after. That GT350R will eat me on corners, but from the get go it would be close. Provided I could keep my front tires from lifting off the ground.
 

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Decided to read about them. I suppose it'll sound and "feel" (vibrate) like a 4-cylinder, because it's essentially two i4's paired.

Not that I have a problem with this.
 

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Decided to read about them. I suppose it'll sound and "feel" (vibrate) like a 4-cylinder, because it's essentially two i4's paired.

Not that I have a problem with this.

Sounds like an Italian exotic.
 

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iirc the GT350R has the option for a stripped-down model where they even take out the A/C o_O

Carbon fiber wheels though :thumbsup:
 

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Who is going to call this a "ricer" solution? Don't most of the target audience for thiscar wants low revolutions torque from their engine? They always seem to point out deficiency of high strung engines aka Honda S2K or something like that.
 

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Who is going to call this a "ricer" solution? Don't most of the target audience for thiscar wants low revolutions torque from their engine? They always seem to point out deficiency of high strung engines aka Honda S2K or something like that.

How many 'ricers' are north of 500hp?
 

Yuriman

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Who is going to call this a "ricer" solution? Don't most of the target audience for thiscar wants low revolutions torque from their engine? They always seem to point out deficiency of high strung engines aka Honda S2K or something like that.

I doubt this engine is giving up any torque for revs, it simply has the revs too.


In what world does the GT350 sound like an F458?

Apparently Ferrari has been using flat plane cranks for all of their V8's for a long time. The noise and vibration characteristics of a flat plane V8 more closely resemble a flat-4 than a cross plane V8.
 
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The car sounds amazing to me, though to my ears it doesn't sound like anything Italian. I have to give Ford credit - I really admire what they have done with the Mustang, and particularly the high-performance versions. The GT350R is on the short list of current cars that will very likely have collector value in the future (and while I would not personally buy the stripped-out one, I bet it ends up being worth more than the one with basic creature comforts).
 
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inachu

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I own one and cops tailgate me not to see if I will make a mistake but are jealous of me.

They never pull me over.
 

JulesMaximus

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What is the difference between the GT350 and the GT350R?

I'll take one in dark grey with no stripes please. Actually, silver ghost stripes would look good on that car.
 

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The car sounds amazing to me, though to my ears it doesn't sound like anything Italian. I have to give Ford credit - I really admire what they have done with the Mustang, and particularly the high-performance versions. The GT350R is on the short list of current cars that will very likely have collector value in the future.

Ditto, even on the "consumer" models. IRS, 32mpg Ecoboost I4, etc. has me eyeballing a '15 model as my next ride :thumbsup:
 

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What is the difference between the GT350 and the GT350R?

I'll take one in dark grey with no stripes please. Actually, silver ghost stripes would look good on that car.

$16k or so I think.

Also, the 350R is like the Z/28. Stripped interior and truly meant as a track car. Well, except the A/C and stereo options gives you a real stereo instead of the plain one in the Z/28. About 130 lbs of weight saving over the GT350
 

JulesMaximus

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$16k or so I think.

Also, the 350R is like the Z/28. Stripped interior and truly meant as a track car. Well, except the A/C and stereo options gives you a real stereo instead of the plain one in the Z/28. About 130 lbs of weight saving over the GT350

With 526hp I think I'll keep the creature comforts. I wonder if this car will be any easier to live with on a daily basis than the GT500 you owned.

I might have to give this car a serious look when it becomes available. If they're asking markups though forget it. I'm not interested.
 

sgrinavi

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I doubt this engine is giving up any torque for revs, it simply has the revs too....


5.2L Voodoo (GT350) 429 lb-ft,= 78 lb-ft/L
7.0L LS7 (C6z06 & current Z28) 475 lb-ft = 68 lb-ft/L
4.0L S65 (Last gen M3) 290 lb-ft = 72.5 lb-ft/L

Not giving up anything, it's a beast.
 

Ferzerp

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With 526hp I think I'll keep the creature comforts. I wonder if this car will be any easier to live with on a daily basis than the GT500 you owned.

I might have to give this car a serious look when it becomes available. If they're asking markups though forget it. I'm not interested.


Probably. What killed the GT500 was the solid axle and the harsh suspension. They've licensed the Delphi technology for this one. As long as they've set it up sanely, it will be able to go from a decent ride on the street, to a stiff ride for the track.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagneRide

edit: and insufficient tire which they've fixed this time with a wider wheel
 
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Ferzerp

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5.2L Voodoo (GT350) 429 lb-ft,= 78 lb-ft/L
7.0L LS7 (C6z06 & current Z28) 475 lb-ft = 68 lb-ft/L
4.0L S65 (Last gen M3) 290 lb-ft = 72.5 lb-ft/L

Not giving up anything, it's a beast.


An utterly meaningless metric, congrats! Power output per liter of displacement doesn't tell you anything. Of all those engine packages you posted, guess which one is the smallest and lightest?
 

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An utterly meaningless metric, congrats! Power output per liter of displacement doesn't tell you anything. Of all those engine packages you posted, guess which one is the smallest and lightest?

Yep, HP/L is for bragging rights and it's not even a good metric for that.

A big-displacement pushrod V8 will almost always weigh less than a high-strung, low-displacement DOHC motor.

(0) BMW S65, 4.0 liter, 414hp, 295 lb-ft, 450 lbs
(1) Coyote, 5.0 liter, 412hp, 390 lb-ft, 444 lbs
(2) GM LS3, 6.2 liter, 436hp, 430 lb-ft, 415 lbs
(3) GM LS7, 7.0 liter, 505hp, 470 lb-ft, 440 lbs
 

Ferzerp

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Yep, HP/L is for bragging rights and it's not even a good metric for that.

A big-displacement pushrod V8 will almost always weigh less than a high-strung, low-displacement DOHC motor.


That said, there are two situations where it makes sense.

The utterly stupid regulations that tax based on displacement in some parts of the world and in a racing series that limits displacement.
 

sgrinavi

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An utterly meaningless metric, congrats! Power output per liter of displacement doesn't tell you anything. Of all those engine packages you posted, guess which one is the smallest and lightest?

Okay, if you say so.
 

JulesMaximus

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Probably. What killed the GT500 was the solid axle and the harsh suspension. They've licensed the Delphi technology for this one. As long as they've set it up sanely, it will be able to go from a decent ride on the street, to a stiff ride for the track.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagneRide

edit: and insufficient tire which they've fixed this time with a wider wheel

:thumbsup: That's what I figured. I really like this car, definitely going to keep an eye out when they become available.