Grrrrr... idiot Marines recruiter

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: nublikescake

Originally posted by: glenn beck

Originally posted by: nublikescake
You can thank GW for that.

I really don't think George Washington could have foreseen this happening

Are you serious? If it wasn't for GW's illegal, misguided and ultimately fruitless wars...there wouldn't be such an aversion to join the U.S. military.

Your reading skill: failed.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: nublikescake

Originally posted by: glenn beck

Originally posted by: nublikescake
You can thank GW for that.

I really don't think George Washington could have foreseen this happening

Are you serious? If it wasn't for GW's illegal, misguided and ultimately fruitless wars...there wouldn't be such an aversion to join the U.S. military.

Your reading skill: failed.

And actually there is a huge flood of people trying to enlist right now anyways with the current job market.

 

[chitwood]

find out where he lives and set his house on fire

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: nublikescake

Originally posted by: glenn beck

Originally posted by: nublikescake
You can thank GW for that.

I really don't think George Washington could have foreseen this happening

Are you serious? If it wasn't for GW's illegal, misguided and ultimately fruitless wars...there wouldn't be such an aversion to join the U.S. military.

Your reading skill: failed.

And actually there is a huge flood of people trying to enlist right now anyways with the current job market.

QFT...military isn't a bad way to go if you are looking at college as an impossibilty...if you have a four year degree and looking at a shitty job market (keep in mind your starting salary with any company limits your final salary 99% of the time and in this job market jumping ship each year or two for a better dig is a bad possibility) go in as an officer.

Just being ex-military is extremely valuable. If you get top secret or better clearance, even more so.

I have no problems with recruiters on campus. I don't know how the OP's story truly happened. It seems possible, but I don't know how if the son wasn't communicating it to the recruiter.

I scored off the charts on the ASVABS, was an athelete, scored pretty damn well on my ACT / SAT's esp on the science / math sides (on the verbal I never read the long stories...I just picked what sounded decent...I still scored 520 out of 800 which was 80-90%ile at the time)...the recruiters would not stop calling, sending mail, stopping me on campus. They didn't pull me out of class or send letters to my college picks.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: zinfamous
one of the many reasons that marines are known as Jarheads.

Hey...that's "FUCKING JARHEAD" to you maggot.

That's a "term of endearment" when used by other Marines...and an insult when used by anyone else.

:laugh:

:beer:

 

[WraithETC]

I just never picked up the phone or stopped for a second in front of the recruitment tables.

 

[imported_Imp]

I took myself down to the recruitment office, maybe they don't have quotas here, but the guy didn't even bother selling me anything. I knew more about the MOS I wanted than he did. Gotta say it was a pleasant experience. Too bad I decided "not yet".

He was navy, and we have 'combined forces' here, if that makes a difference.

 

[zylander]

I use to get harassed by recruiters all the time back in high school and early college. My bank was on the same block that housed recruiting offices for the army, navy and marines. Seemed like everytime I walked by they were outside for a smoke brake so I always got questions. One time I walked by the marines office and one of them was inside on the phone. He noticed me through the window and started waving his arms frantically to get me to wait there until he got off the phone.

I havent been contacted by them or had any run ins with them for a couple years now. The last time, a marine got my phone number from my school and called me asking questions, trying to setup meetings and even tried to come pick me up.

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: OCguy
It seems your son was confronted with a life experience that may be helpful in college. Although the recruiter overstepped some boundaries, your kid is going to face many things in life. This will only help to make sure he is well adjusted.

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Talk to the recruiter directly and tell him to lay off or you will go to his commander and tell him about the recruiter calling the college.

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If you really want this recruiter to feel pain, you will need to go to the RSS OIC. Talking to an officer may provide more fruitful than to a SNCOIC (enlisted) who may be supportive of the tactics his/her Marines are using.

FWIW, I would like people to know that few Marines actually choose to be recruiters. Every year a list is put out of "selected" individuals that the Marine Corps drags into recruiting. This makes for poor recruiters - I am not defending this guy at all, I think he should be punished for what he did, but getting the media involved or going up to the I MEF chain of command won't yield results. This guy will feel it when the Marine Corps takes half his pay and puts him on restriction and EMI for several months.

Those that have served will understand just how much they will take from you and how miserable a life you will lead if punished correctly under the UCMJ.

DrPizza, if you have any questions, please feel free to PM/email me - I'm currently active service USMC and will try and help you any way I can.

 

[octopus41092]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
You should report that guy, that is way, way over the line.

KT

This.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Shoot the recruiter in both legs and leave him to die. It's what he deserves. Seriously, it's a bright line. If the recruiter doesn't know better he's a detriment to his unit, the country, and all citizens.

 

[wwswimming]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
*recruiter calls the college my son was accepted at & tells them he won't be attending because he's going to join the Marines
*college believed the recruiter, but an adviser called just to make sure my son knew he'd lose his spot
*wife, son, and I are *pissed*

interference with a tortous contract.

actionable.

hope you can find an attorney to take it on contingency.

 

[moparacer]

Originally posted by: chitwood
find out where he lives and set his house on fire

With him in it......Man I would be jacked if one pulled that with my kids.....

 

[shortylickens]

I guess I should put in my two cents.

Am currently going to school on my GI Bill and Navy College Fund. Grand total of 40 thousand dollars thanks to the terms of the Navy Nuke Program back in 1997. I am very grateful for it. Having said that, there is no way in hell I'd join today. Also, there is a very good chance Obama will trim the benefits for veterans later this year and that will probably include college stuff.

 

[DrPizza]

Follow-up: College believed the recruiter - why wouldn't they? BUT, my son would have had to inform them himself before he was removed from the program. His advisor was under the impression that my son was entering.

Guidance counselor was in my classroom 15 minutes before school even started; fully aware of what transpired. He wanted me to call from his office so that he heard the conversation and knew first hand that the guy wasn't supposed to contact my son. I was wayyyyy too busy Friday to have any free time to do anything extra. Will be following up tomorrow.

And, to answer the question about how the recruiter got the info - while my son thought the recruiter was making idle chit-chat, he was actually prying important information from him. "Thinking about going into the military" "No, I'm going to college." "Really? What college?" etc.

 

[child of wonder]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
I guess I should put in my two cents.

Am currently going to school on my GI Bill and Navy College Fund. Grand total of 40 thousand dollars thanks to the terms of the Navy Nuke Program back in 1997. I am very grateful for it. Having said that, there is no way in hell I'd join today. Also, there is a very good chance Obama will trim the benefits for veterans later this year and that will probably include college stuff.

Bush already beat him to it on cutting veteran's benefits.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Follow-up: College believed the recruiter - why wouldn't they? BUT, my son would have had to inform them himself before he was removed from the program. His advisor was under the impression that my son was entering.

Guidance counselor was in my classroom 15 minutes before school even started; fully aware of what transpired. He wanted me to call from his office so that he heard the conversation and knew first hand that the guy wasn't supposed to contact my son. I was wayyyyy too busy Friday to have any free time to do anything extra. Will be following up tomorrow.

And, to answer the question about how the recruiter got the info - while my son thought the recruiter was making idle chit-chat, he was actually prying important information from him. "Thinking about going into the military" "No, I'm going to college." "Really? What college?" etc.

I'm glad to hear you got the college straightened out before he lost his spot. THAT would have sucked.
The recruiters are well trained at what they do...and most are good "fishermen" when it comes to finding information about potential recruits.

The link I posted earlier is for Recruiting Command. You should be able to get some attention for the problem there.
(I don't know why so many USMC sites have the certificate error) :roll:

 

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: Blunc
get every bit of hard evidence you can find on the recruiters activities with regard to your son, get affidavits if you can, then file a complaint with the Marine Corp or JAG.

I can understand having a gung ho recruiter but having one sabotage someones stated future is not tolerable.

Blunc, we are not a corporation. We are a CORPS. I hope to god you didn't serve and somehow miss that.

What's funny is that I already did my 4+4 and i STILL get called by recruiters lol. Only they're trying to get me BACK. Fortunately, they don't press that hard when they know you're prior service because you know the deal already, and assuming you're making way more than anything they can promise you, it's a pretty hard sell on their part. And that's even considering the fact that part of me would love to go back because i miss it.

As to the OP, that's strange that the recruiter would do that. I did a short stint with a recruiting unit while in the Marines and it was a VERY different experience. When kids said firmly no, we were advised to move on because otherwise we were wasting time that could have been better spent on someone who was more likely to sign up. We certainly didn't pull bs like this... if you think about it, how would this EVER turn out well for him? Does he really think that the kid won't find out, or that he'll change his mind if he has to wait one semester?

Worse, if he DID get caught, recruiting commands tend not to appreciate this kind of negative press...

Something doesnt seem right.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
if your son is not interested how did they find out his college? Also how did they just pull him out of any class?

The former is answered in the OP and I'm sure you can stretch your imagination to work out the latter.

 

[SunnyD]

Somehow this thread came time mind for this article.

 

[Nik]

File harassment charges with the police. File a restraining order. Sue the military. Call a news station and let them have the details.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: DJFuji

Originally posted by: Blunc
get every bit of hard evidence you can find on the recruiters activities with regard to your son, get affidavits if you can, then file a complaint with the Marine Corp or JAG.

I can understand having a gung ho recruiter but having one sabotage someones stated future is not tolerable.

Blunc, we are not a corporation. We are a CORPS. I hope to god you didn't serve and somehow miss that.

What's funny is that I already did my 4+4 and i STILL get called by recruiters lol. Only they're trying to get me BACK. Fortunately, they don't press that hard when they know you're prior service because you know the deal already, and assuming you're making way more than anything they can promise you, it's a pretty hard sell on their part. And that's even considering the fact that part of me would love to go back because i miss it.

As to the OP, that's strange that the recruiter would do that. I did a short stint with a recruiting unit while in the Marines and it was a VERY different experience. When kids said firmly no, we were advised to move on because otherwise we were wasting time that could have been better spent on someone who was more likely to sign up. We certainly didn't pull bs like this... if you think about it, how would this EVER turn out well for him? Does he really think that the kid won't find out, or that he'll change his mind if he has to wait one semester?

Worse, if he DID get caught, recruiting commands tend not to appreciate this kind of negative press...

Something doesnt seem right.

please, he left out an S. give me a fuckin break.

 

[Phokus]

So what happened, did the OP report the jackass to command or what

 

[DJFuji]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: DJFuji

Originally posted by: Blunc
get every bit of hard evidence you can find on the recruiters activities with regard to your son, get affidavits if you can, then file a complaint with the Marine Corp or JAG.

I can understand having a gung ho recruiter but having one sabotage someones stated future is not tolerable.

Blunc, we are not a corporation. We are a CORPS. I hope to god you didn't serve and somehow miss that.

What's funny is that I already did my 4+4 and i STILL get called by recruiters lol. Only they're trying to get me BACK. Fortunately, they don't press that hard when they know you're prior service because you know the deal already, and assuming you're making way more than anything they can promise you, it's a pretty hard sell on their part. And that's even considering the fact that part of me would love to go back because i miss it.

As to the OP, that's strange that the recruiter would do that. I did a short stint with a recruiting unit while in the Marines and it was a VERY different experience. When kids said firmly no, we were advised to move on because otherwise we were wasting time that could have been better spent on someone who was more likely to sign up. We certainly didn't pull bs like this... if you think about it, how would this EVER turn out well for him? Does he really think that the kid won't find out, or that he'll change his mind if he has to wait one semester?

Worse, if he DID get caught, recruiting commands tend not to appreciate this kind of negative press...

Something doesnt seem right.

please, he left out an S. give me a fuckin break.

That "S" changes the meaning of the organization. Try leaving off an "N" in "NAACP". All of a sudden you get the American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy. Kind of a different thing...

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: DJFuji

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: DJFuji

Originally posted by: Blunc
get every bit of hard evidence you can find on the recruiters activities with regard to your son, get affidavits if you can, then file a complaint with the Marine Corp or JAG.

I can understand having a gung ho recruiter but having one sabotage someones stated future is not tolerable.

Blunc, we are not a corporation. We are a CORPS. I hope to god you didn't serve and somehow miss that.

What's funny is that I already did my 4+4 and i STILL get called by recruiters lol. Only they're trying to get me BACK. Fortunately, they don't press that hard when they know you're prior service because you know the deal already, and assuming you're making way more than anything they can promise you, it's a pretty hard sell on their part. And that's even considering the fact that part of me would love to go back because i miss it.

As to the OP, that's strange that the recruiter would do that. I did a short stint with a recruiting unit while in the Marines and it was a VERY different experience. When kids said firmly no, we were advised to move on because otherwise we were wasting time that could have been better spent on someone who was more likely to sign up. We certainly didn't pull bs like this... if you think about it, how would this EVER turn out well for him? Does he really think that the kid won't find out, or that he'll change his mind if he has to wait one semester?

Worse, if he DID get caught, recruiting commands tend not to appreciate this kind of negative press...

Something doesnt seem right.

please, he left out an S. give me a fuckin break.

That "S" changes the meaning of the organization. Try leaving off an "N" in "NAACP". All of a sudden you get the American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy. Kind of a different thing...

So you're saying you (or anyone else in this thread) thought he was talking about a corporation?