Grrrr another one of those next generation is in trouble things

SVT Cobra

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So I am with friend (he is a lot older than me) and he has a son who is 17, 18 next Sept. He comes in the house with a couple of his friends. Mind you these are not skaters, emos, etc. Just your average run of the mill kids, and the topic of him turning 18 came up, and I said "That's great, you'll be just old enough to vote in the next presidential election."

His responce along with his friends were "So what, it is not like it'll actually matter if I vote."

Man :|
 

Doodoo

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Well its true...is his one vote really going to matter? Now if everyone had that same mentality it would matter....but luckily not everyone does.
 

BigJ

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Actually in the recent presidential election, voter turnout in the 18-21 segment was as high as it's ever been (like in the 70s when they were first allowed to vote).
 

k1pp3r

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Originally posted by: Doodoo
Well its true...is his one vote really going to matter? Now if everyone had that same mentality it would matter....but luckily not everyone does.

Depends on the battleground states, there every vote matters, but states that vote pure party base, no it really doesn't. But you should still express your choice
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Doodoo
Well its true...is his one vote really going to matter? Now if everyone had that same mentality it would matter....but luckily not everyone does.

You do know what the percent of people who vote are out of the people eligible to vote?
 

Leros

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Such a ittle people are actually active in leading organizations that you would be surprised what one person can accomplish. This is true for any type of organization, not just the government.
 

jpeyton

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Tell him to vote for Sanjaya!
 

BrownTown

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Originally posted by: Leros
Such a ittle people are actually active in leading organizations that you would be surprised what one person can accomplish. This is true for any type of organization, not just the government.

This statement is VERY true. I used to not believe it that one person could really make a big difference, I thought that was just bull cr@p they throw at you to try to make you feel good about yourself, but it really isn't. There are huge numbers of people out there who believe in good causes, and are just waiting to gravitate towards a leader. If you start a club or organization you can EASILY attracct other people to your message, and even institute great changes. Just one example on my campus there is a group promoting enviromental awarness, it is student lead and was founded by a student not to long ago. They pushed the administraters to follow enviromental building practices for a big new expansion to the campus and the administration agree and is doing all kinds of energy saving upgrades as part of this 500 million dollar project. Another group protested for high wages for the lowest paid workers and again, they won and the wages were raised. It should aslo be pointed out these are the "next generation" type kids, so don't think we are all going down the cr@pper just cause there are a few idiots around. I mean hey your generation is responisble for George Bush, so don't go hating on us :p.
 

olds

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I hope he doesn't vote. Idiots that age usually vote for democrats.
 

lyssword

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
I hope he doesn't vote. Idiots that age usually vote for democrats.

I hope you don't vote. Idiots your age usually vote for republicans.
 

simms

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Originally posted by: lyssword
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
I hope he doesn't vote. Idiots that age usually vote for democrats.

I hope you don't vote. Idiots your age usually vote for republicans.

:laugh:

lol, sometimes people are just asking for it.

Yea, and oldsmoboat's law doesn't apply either...
 

QurazyQuisp

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I would bet that this next election will prove to be one of the highest 18-21 year old turnouts ever...
 

Jeff7

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Maybe remind him that people have been willing to fight in wars for the right to vote. My mom insists on voting because of how long women had to struggle to get that right.


Is this person a Star Trek fan? If so, remind him that a single Borg drone isn't a major threat, but a cube full of them is. There is strength in numbers, but the only way to do that is with individuals. Gandhi said something close to this: "What you do is not significant. But it is important that you do it."
 

Gunslinger08

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Virginia always swings Republican. Me forgetting to vote won't cause Republicans to lose Virginia. Me and my entire precinct forgetting to vote and having our votes automatically cast for Democrats won't cause Republicans to lose Virginia.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
I hope he doesn't vote. Idiots that age usually vote for democrats.

QFT!

"oh, but the government should give all the money to the poor", "oh, but the rich don't pay any taxes", "oh, woe is me.....I'm being held back by the evil corporations", "just think of people without healthcare (sucking off the healthcare of their parents)."

"why can't we all just live in a forest and be happy forever? That would be great."

Yep, quality voters there I tell ya.:disgust:

 

Bateluer

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I'd say drag him/her to the polling place, register him and make him vote. Unfortunately, that would also mean that he/she wouldn't have done any research on the candidates, and would most likely vote for the candidate least like the one you voted for.

On a slightly related topic, remember the King of the Hill episode where Hank takes Luanne to a political party registration convention, and she registers as a communist? :p
 

kevnich2

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Well, I honestly can't blame the kids too much. With all of this talk and discussion about voter fraud, etc, it's hard to try and convince someone that their vote really counts when in the end, it's very possible that voter fraud will simply overturn the election to the person who has more hands in the voting process. I'm not trying to start a flame war, just stating my opinion. But the good part is that I see more and more younger people getting out to vote because they truly want to see the government get back in check and want to be more involved.