Grrr... This would suck!

SSSnail

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Yup, would suck a major one. I can't imagine me buying everything I have on DVD if they should convert those into HD or Blu-Ray. Granted that a lot of DVDs will just be enhanced, but dang it.

Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.

Edit: Because I feel it's necessary to include this in the OP.

I understand the backwards compatibility of HD or Blu-Ray players perfectly, for the millionth time. However, a lot of movies are being reproduced in either format that are already on DVDs.

It's not a requirement that I have to purchase new DVDs of the same title to watch it, it's for the image quality enjoyment sake. Upconverting may not produce the same image quality. Is there something wrong with my OP or what I wrote subsequently? Is this really hard to understand what I'm trying to say, or saying?

I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Let me rephrase this so that we're cleared about the subject. Remember your VHS collection? Yup, that went to the trash when DVDs came out. (Before some smart @ jumps in - no, DVD players are not backwards compatible with VHS tapes. There I said it). Now, most people will not replace there DVD collection with the HD version of the same. For some of us that feel as if it's a necessity, it will suck. /rant.
 

rivan

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One of the huge reasons I won't be "upgrading" anytime soon.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.

Already exists.
 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.

Already exists.

ORly? Where have I been? Playable as both?
 
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.
Would be easier to just buy an upconverting BD/HD-DVD/DVD-player ;)
 

LordUnum

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Who's pushing you to upgrade all your DVDs to either new format? HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players remain backwards-compatible right?

Anyway, I thought this thread was going to be about ripping one's DVD collection to DivX or the like... ;)
 

waggy

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i won't bother doing that. but i would start buying HD or blueray
 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: LordUnum
Who's pushing you to upgrade all your DVDs to either new format? HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players remain backwards-compatible right?

Anyway, I thought this thread was going to be about ripping one's DVD collection to DivX or the like... ;)

Granted that they are, but the quality won't be the same. I think the upgrade maybe akin to going from VHS to DVD (with backwards compatibility).

Oh, and :shocked: at the DivX comment. :p
 

rbV5

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Why convert your DVD's? HD-DVD players are backward compatable with standard DVD, Blu-Ray isn't by spec, but all Blu-Ray players released to date are backward compatable with standard DVD.

Just play your DVD's in your new player?
 

sygyzy

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We have 12 year olds posting now? Like BigJ said, where to start?

1. Who the hell cares if there is Blu-ray or HD-DVD out now. If you are going to live for "what if" then you might as well not adopt technology, ever, because then you'll be ready for the next generation.
2. Why would anyone rip standard dvd content and put it on a blu-ray disc? That just makes no sense. Like others have said, you can still play your dvd's in the new players plus it's not like your standard dvd player just disappears after HD-DVD/Blu-Ray comes out.
3. You think that there exists a software solution to magically convert standard DVD's to HD? At first I thought you meant just playing your old dvd's in the new players, but now I know you're crazy.
4. Profits? ORLY? And you're looking for an expert in mobile communication protocols? For what? Your Barney Magical Walkie Talkie?

 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: rbV5
Why convert your DVD's? HD-DVD players are backward compatable with standard DVD, Blu-Ray isn't by spec, but all Blu-Ray players released to date are backward compatable with standard DVD.

Just play your DVD's in your new player?

I understand the backwards compatibility of HD or Blu-Ray players perfectly, for the millionth time. However, a lot of movies are being reproduced in either format that are already on DVDs.

It's not a requirement that I have to purchase new DVDs of the same title to watch it, it's for the image quality enjoyment sake. Upconverting may not produce the same image quality. Is there something wrong with my OP or what I wrote subsequently? Is this really hard to understand what I'm trying to say, or saying?

I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Let me rephrase this so that we're cleared about the subject. Remember your VHS collection? Yup, that went to the trash when DVDs came out. (Before some smart @ jumps in - no, DVD players are not backwards compatible with VHS tapes. There I said it). Now, most people will not replace there DVD collection with the HD version of the same. For some of us that feel as if it's a necessity, it will suck. /rant.
 

rbV5

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I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Only an idiot would upconvert SD and then burn it to some sort of HD disc, so I assumed you weren't aware of the backward compatabilty.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: rbV5
I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Only an idiot would upconvert SD and then burn it to some sort of HD disc, so I assumed you weren't aware of the backward compatabilty.

Did I say idiot? sorry, I meant moron.
 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: rbV5
I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Only an idiot would upconvert SD and then burn it to some sort of HD disc, so I assumed you weren't aware of the backward compatabilty.

Woah there genius, what do you think upconverting DVD players do? They fill in the freaking blanks. And how is that done? Magic dust? I'm sure it's not by your awesome brain power.

Why can't we have software that rips SD, attempts to fill in the blank - upconverting by software - wow, what a freaking concept. The more you know.

Some of you think you're too smart for your own damn good.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: rbV5
I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Only an idiot would upconvert SD and then burn it to some sort of HD disc, so I assumed you weren't aware of the backward compatabilty.

Woah there genius, what do you think upconverting DVD players do? They fill in the freaking blanks. And how is that done? Magic dust? I'm sure it's not by your awesome brain power.

Why can't we have software that rips SD, attempts to fill in the blank - upconverting by software - wow, what a freaking concept. The more you know.

Some of you think you're too smart for your own damn good.

Modern graphic cards and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players already do the upconvert on the fly Einstein.

 

jtvang125

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Geez you don't need to repurchase your whole dvd library in the new HD formats. If you really like a movie and would enjoy it better in hidef then sure buy it on hd-dvd or br. If it's a subpar movie just keep it in its current dvd format.
 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: rbV5
I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Only an idiot would upconvert SD and then burn it to some sort of HD disc, so I assumed you weren't aware of the backward compatabilty.

Woah there genius, what do you think upconverting DVD players do? They fill in the freaking blanks. And how is that done? Magic dust? I'm sure it's not by your awesome brain power.

Why can't we have software that rips SD, attempts to fill in the blank - upconverting by software - wow, what a freaking concept. The more you know.

Some of you think you're too smart for your own damn good.

Modern graphic cards and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players already do the upconvert on the fly Einstein.

So, studios are re-releasing these titles on HD or Blu-Ray discs are just a sham. I'm glad I have you posting here to clear up any misunderstanding I might have on the subject.

I can do this all day, and am really enjoying this conversation. Would you like another shovel?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: rbV5
I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Only an idiot would upconvert SD and then burn it to some sort of HD disc, so I assumed you weren't aware of the backward compatabilty.

Woah there genius, what do you think upconverting DVD players do? They fill in the freaking blanks. And how is that done? Magic dust? I'm sure it's not by your awesome brain power.

Why can't we have software that rips SD, attempts to fill in the blank - upconverting by software - wow, what a freaking concept. The more you know.

Some of you think you're too smart for your own damn good.

Modern graphic cards and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players already do the upconvert on the fly Einstein.

So, studios are re-releasing these titles on HD or Blu-Ray discs are just a sham. I'm glad I have you posting here to clear up any misunderstanding I might have on the subject.

I can do this all day, and am really enjoying this conversation. Would you like another shovel?

I'm only going to explain this once. There is a difference between an upconverted DVD and a pure 1080p feed from a BR or HD DVD disc. The image quality on a good TV is noticeably different.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: rbV5
I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Only an idiot would upconvert SD and then burn it to some sort of HD disc, so I assumed you weren't aware of the backward compatabilty.

Woah there genius, what do you think upconverting DVD players do? They fill in the freaking blanks. And how is that done? Magic dust? I'm sure it's not by your awesome brain power.

Why can't we have software that rips SD, attempts to fill in the blank - upconverting by software - wow, what a freaking concept. The more you know.

Some of you think you're too smart for your own damn good.

Modern graphic cards and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players already do the upconvert on the fly Einstein.

So, studios are re-releasing these titles on HD or Blu-Ray discs are just a sham. I'm glad I have you posting here to clear up any misunderstanding I might have on the subject.

I can do this all day, and am really enjoying this conversation. Would you like another shovel?

Studios have the masters to work with, you won't. Get it?

I challenge you to upconvert ANY video you want to a higher resolution and then encode it and then compare it to the scaler on your graphics card that works in "real -time".

Tell me how many video enthusiasts do you know that upconvert video and re-encode to a higher resolution...I know exactly none.
 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: BigJ
I'm only going to explain this once. There is a difference between an upconverted DVD and a pure 1080p feed from a BR or HD DVD disc. The image quality on a good TV is noticeably different.

Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.
How do you think the studios are doing it, reshooting the movies in HD or BR?

And going on your post, that's why I would WANT to convert my DVD collection, which would reproduce subpar picture on a good TV, even with a "backwards compatible, upconverting" player. Can I make it any clearer?

The whole post is about why I think it would suck for me to spend money on getting DVDs of the same title in different format, to you guys ranting about what I have no clue. Read the freaking post, take a minute to understand the situation. THEN smash your keyboards in response.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: BigJ
I'm only going to explain this once. There is a difference between an upconverted DVD and a pure 1080p feed from a BR or HD DVD disc. The image quality on a good TV is noticeably different.

Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.
How do you think the studios are doing it, reshooting the movies in HD or BR?

And going on your post, that's why I would WANT to convert my DVD collection, which would reproduce subpar picture on a good TV, even with a "backwards compatible, upconverting" player. Can I make it any clearer?

The whole post is about why I think it would suck for me to spend money on getting DVDs of the same title in different format, to you guys ranting about what I have no clue. Read the freaking post, take a minute to understand the situation. THEN smash your keyboards in response.

Oh sweet Jesus.

Let me get this straight. You honestly think that the studio releases are shot in SD and then upconverted to make BR and HD DVD versions? Have you done ANY research whatsoever?

Here's a hint. They shoot them on film or other very high quality media. Mediums that are far superior to our HD formats that we view right now.

And the reason why we're knocking you is because you are so ill-informed that it's not even funny. It's sad really.
 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: BigJ
I'm only going to explain this once. There is a difference between an upconverted DVD and a pure 1080p feed from a BR or HD DVD disc. The image quality on a good TV is noticeably different.

Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.
How do you think the studios are doing it, reshooting the movies in HD or BR?

And going on your post, that's why I would WANT to convert my DVD collection, which would reproduce subpar picture on a good TV, even with a "backwards compatible, upconverting" player. Can I make it any clearer?

The whole post is about why I think it would suck for me to spend money on getting DVDs of the same title in different format, to you guys ranting about what I have no clue. Read the freaking post, take a minute to understand the situation. THEN smash your keyboards in response.

Oh sweet Jesus.

Let me get this straight. You honestly think that the studio releases are shot in SD and then upconverted to make BR and HD DVD versions? Have you done ANY research whatsoever?

Here's a hint. They shoot them on film or other very high quality media. Mediums that are far superior to our HD formats that we view right now.

And the reason why we're knocking you is because you are so ill-informed that it's not even funny. It's sad really.

It's a good thing that I have all the reels in my warehouse, at least you make more sense than the other guy. Anyways, so there are no magic that can be done to convert my DVD to HD like quality through software? Damn, I guess it would suck then for me to buy new DVDs... :confused: