Grr...Just got rear ended

[Q]

09 BMW 335i RWD. .

I bet that guy was thinking 'oh sh**" when he rear ended you.

 

[Q]

That's not entirely true...

:thumbsdown:

 

[Doggiedog]

I bet that guy was thinking 'oh sh**" when he rear ended you.

That's what I was saying when I saw his lights right before he hit me!

Brace for impact!

 

[Doggiedog]

That's not entirely true...

Of course Skoorb says this in jest.

 

[randay]

i dont think you were going 5mph...

 

[3chordcharlie]

All seasons are fine in snow; the guy (or gal) who hit you was a crappy driver.

As long as you don't mind your modern car handling like a '78 pinto every time it snows.

Just because it's possible to drive with bad tires doesn't make it smart, and any all season tire I've ever used is garbage in the snow, especially if it's over a year old.

 

[AMCRambler]

I drove my step brothers 87 wrangler last night to visit my ... well that's not important. Anyway, there were a LOT of idiots on the road. People pulled over to the "side". For some reason, when people don't see lines, they think they can park wherever they want. On my way back, two people stopped dead in the middle of the "right lane" on the top of a hill. And they were laughing at me as I was driving by (my guess is they were 4x4 fanatics and just gawking, but still).

Then, after I got past these imbicilles, I followed a 1970-something 2WD suburban almost all the way home. Stupid ******* tried to make a turn and got stuck in the intersection. When he/she finally did make it through, they were basically drifting the entire way. I definitely gave them enough room.

Be safe out there, people. There are A LOT of idiots out there.

Suburban was doin' some mad driftin' yo! Pop the E and watch 'em pee!

 

[exar333]

As long as you don't mind your modern car handling like a '78 pinto every time it snows.

Just because it's possible to drive with bad tires doesn't make it smart, and any all season tire I've ever used is garbage in the snow, especially if it's over a year old.

You choose bad tires then. Are you serious? 90% of drivers don't have winter wheels or summer wheels (mostly car enthustiats do) and they do just fine.

Please everyone stop with the FUD that all-seasons are "horrible" in the snow. Some are bad, some are OK, others are very good, and all in-between.

 

[Zargon]

All season tires do ok in most winter conditions, but a snow tire will do even better at getting going, turning and stopping as it's rubber compound is optimized for cold weather gripping. Hope your car is not too bad. Post a pix or two.

x2

4 inches of snow is def snow tire weather.

beyond that my trucks all seasons were crap in a half inch

but it was the 1/2 in of ice below the snow that was the issue...

 

[3chordcharlie]

You choose bad tires then. Are you serious? 90% of drivers don't have winter wheels or summer wheels (mostly car enthustiats do) and they do just fine.

Please everyone stop with the FUD that all-seasons are "horrible" in the snow. Some are bad, some are OK, others are very good, and all in-between.

You're right - tires that aren't designed for winter are absolutely fine for ice and snow. How could so many drivers and engineers be so wrong?

The BEST all-seasons are acceptable in snow for one season. They aren't as a general rule 'just fine' unless you've always got the time to wait for a plow truck before you go anywhere.

While it's not impossible that one combination of tire compound and tread pattern could provide very good traction in all conditions (Michelin LTX M+S is pretty close for the first 8k mi / 12k km), it's simply not realistic given what is currently available. Asking one tire to provide good traction at sub-zero termperatures, good traction (and wear!) on 100+ degree asphalt, and solid wet performance is asking too much.

As other posters said, if it snows twice a year and you can wait it out, you don't need snow tires. If it snows weekly or more, you're making a poor decision.

 

[exar333]

You're right - tires that aren't designed for winter are absolutely fine for ice and snow. How could so many drivers and engineers be so wrong?

The BEST all-seasons are acceptable in snow for one season. They aren't as a general rule 'just fine' unless you've always got the time to wait for a plow truck before you go anywhere.

While it's not impossible that one combination of tire compound and tread pattern could provide very good traction in all conditions (Michelin LTX M+S is pretty close for the first 8k mi / 12k km), it's simply not realistic given what is currently available. Asking one tire to provide good traction at sub-zero termperatures, good traction (and wear!) on 100+ degree asphalt, and solid wet performance is asking too much.

As other posters said, if it snows twice a year and you can wait it out, you don't need snow tires. If it snows weekly or more, you're making a poor decision.

More FUD. I have grown-up in MN my whole driving life, and seriously only a VERY small percentage of people have snow tires. You know what? They do just fine. Be it ice or 6-10 inches of snow, if you can drive a car decently, snow isn't a big deal with halfway decent tires. Getting stuck 1 or 2 times in your driveway and needing a little help isn't going to kill anyone. Keep your speed down, drive safely, and there aren't a lot of issues.

 

[3chordcharlie]

More FUD. I have grown-up in MN my whole driving life, and seriously only a VERY small percentage of people have snow tires. You know what? They do just fine. Be it ice or 6-10 inches of snow, if you can drive a car decently, snow isn't a big deal with halfway decent tires. Getting stuck 1 or 2 times in your driveway and needing a little help isn't going to kill anyone. Keep your speed down, drive safely, and there aren't a lot of issues.

I'm not sure what your definition of 'just fine' is, but it must be pretty far out there.

If you need help getting your car out of the driveway because of your tires, you really need to stay the hell off the road.

 

[amdhunter]

Seems to be something about 335i's and getting rear-ended.

Thank goodness I drive a 135i.

You bastard. I was about to get one, but the insurance would kill me.

I may end up getting a 2010 Evo GSR instead since they got rid of the stupid wing, and have a proper'er leather interior. The only thing is my brother already has an 2009 MR, so I dunno if its stupid to have 2 in the family.