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Group of 40-60 rebels attack U.S. forward operating base at Abu Ghraib

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Dozens of insurgents attacked Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad on Saturday, detonating two suicide car bombs and firing rocket-propelled grenades at U.S. forces before the assault was repelled, the U.S. military said.

At least 20 U.S. soldiers were wounded in the fighting, which lasted around an hour, a U.S. officer said. At least 12 detainees were also wounded, some severely. It was not known how many insurgents were wounded or killed.

"A group of between 40 and 60 insurgents attacked the U.S. forward operating base at Abu Ghraib," Lieutenant Colonel Guy Rudisill, spokesman for detainee affairs, told Reuters, saying the attack began at around 10 a.m. EST.

"They detonated two VBIEDs (suicide car bombs) and also fired rocket-propelled grenades into the prison camp ... it was a sustained attack," he said.

U.S. forces responded with heavy weapons, and the situation was under control by 2 p.m. EST, Rudisill said.

"The attacks were intermittent. They would fire RPGs and then stop, then they would attack again," he said. "It's under control now."

Witnesses said the second car bomb was detonated against U.S. forces as they were trying to evacuate casualties from the first car bomb blast.

Rudisill said U.S. troops had sealed the prison grounds and it was not believed that any insurgents had managed to penetrate the jail's perimeter.

Abu Ghraib, notorious for the prisoner abuse scandal that emerged last year, is on the western outskirts of Baghdad. It is one of three U.S.-run detention facilities in the country.

More attacks in a supposedly pacified county on the march to freedom... :roll:
Can't bush just hurry and put a new saddam in power so we can leave disposing him to the iraqis and their own future? Those oil pipelines are not getting any less exploded give it up neocons.....
 

Red Dawn

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Kind of a pathetic offensive if you ask me if the best you can do is wound 20 and get wiped out.
 

Steeplerot

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Yeah but we have to bring reinforcements from across the world, new rebels spring up daily as a result of us just being there.
In a attrition game they will win if we don't call up the draft IMO, too bad no US city has gone boom yet to make this viable...poor bush.
Well, he could always call up the draft anyway, it's not like bald-faced lying is anything new to his family when it comes to campaigning promises.
 

Starbuck1975

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The insurgents are also fighting a war of attrition given reports that much of the Iraqi population is growing weary of their violence, as the only thing keeping the American occupation force in country is the insurgent threat.

There are growing accounts of Iraqi citizens turning against the insurgents, or isolating those leaders who support them...who is truly fighting the war of attrition?
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kind of a pathetic offensive if you ask me if the best you can do is wound 20 and get wiped out.


"It was not known how many insurgents were wounded or killed."
Saying wiped out is a stretch where do you get that piece of info?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kind of a pathetic offensive if you ask me if the best you can do is wound 20 and get wiped out.


"It was not known how many insurgents were wounded or killed."
Saying wiped out is a stretch where do you get that piece of info?
The Pope told me in a vision!

 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
The insurgents are also fighting a war of attrition given reports that much of the Iraqi population is growing weary of their violence, as the only thing keeping the American occupation force in country is the insurgent threat.

There are growing accounts of Iraqi citizens turning against the insurgents, or isolating those leaders who support them...who is truly fighting the war of attrition?


And if you believe that US cablenews propaganda I have a reporter position for you at foxnews open to offer.
And a big slice of yellow cake and some kool-aid to wash it down, yum!
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kind of a pathetic offensive if you ask me if the best you can do is wound 20 and get wiped out.


"It was not known how many insurgents were wounded or killed."
Saying wiped out is a stretch where do you get that piece of info?
The Pope told me in a vision!

so in other words cable tv's popewatch... :laugh:
"Where america humps the dead for news, fair and balanced, becaue who needs to give a cadaver the reacharound."
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
The insurgents are also fighting a war of attrition given reports that much of the Iraqi population is growing weary of their violence, as the only thing keeping the American occupation force in country is the insurgent threat.

There are growing accounts of Iraqi citizens turning against the insurgents, or isolating those leaders who support them...who is truly fighting the war of attrition?


And if you believe that US cablenews propaganda I have a reporter position for you at foxnews open to offer.
And a big slice of yellow cake and some kool-aid to wash it down, yum!



Well the only problem is that attacks and casuallties are down significantly since we cleaned out fallujah and the elections that foloowed. I hope this downward trend continues.
 

Steeplerot

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"cleaned out fallujah", in other words leveled and any reporters reporting gunned down... :roll:
 

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worth a shot I guess, better than just sitting in the middle of the desert all damn day with nowhere to go
 

Phokus

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MSNBC says there were 18 american DEATHS

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7366857/

Insurgents attack Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison
Assault on jail results in 18 U.S. casualties, officials tell NBC News
BREAKING NEWS
NBC News and news services
Updated: 3:39 p.m. ET April 2, 2005

WASHINGTON - A group of 40 to 60 insurgents attacked the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq late Saturday in a well-coordinated assault that inflicted 18 American casualties, U.S. military officials told NBC News.

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U.S. officials, who spoke with NBC News in Washington, said insurgents attacked with two car or truck bombs, 40 mortars and an intense ground assault.

The attack began as darkness fell on the city, 1st Lt. Adam Rondeau told the Associated Press. Soldiers and Marines stationed at the detention fac!lity responded, and the resulting clash lasted about 40 minutes, Rondeau said.

"This was obviously a very well-organized attack and a very big attack," he said.

It was not immediately clear whether any of the insurgents carrying out the attack suffered casualties or were arrested.

Plumes of smoke were seen rising from the area.

Last summer, pictures showing soldiers piling prisoners naked in a pyramid at the prison were turned over to investigators. The resulting scandal tarnished the military's image in Arab countries and around the world and sparked investigations of detainee abuses.

The United States is holding about 10,500 prisoners in Iraq.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kind of a pathetic offensive if you ask me if the best you can do is wound 20 and get wiped out.

It was not immediately clear whether any of the insurgents carrying out the attack suffered casualties or were arrested.

from the above article
 

Gaard

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By extension, can those 18 American casualties be attributed to the abuse that occurred at AG?
 

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah but we have to bring reinforcements from across the world, new rebels spring up daily as a result of us just being there.
In a attrition game they will win if we don't call up the draft IMO, too bad no US city has gone boom yet to make this viable...poor bush.
Well, he could always call up the draft anyway, it's not like bald-faced lying is anything new to his family when it comes to campaigning promises.

That's idiotic. Why do we need the draft? We've had what, 10,000 soldiers in Iraq wounded? 1500 dead. How many troops have been through Iraq? I'd venture to say at least 300,000-400,000. We have PLENTY of troops to maintain a force of 150,000 in Iraq.
 

Literati

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kind of a pathetic offensive if you ask me if the best you can do is wound 20 and get wiped out.


Sprinkle that with a little firing on and hitting the people whom you're "fighting" for and we've got about as good as they can give.
 

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah but we have to bring reinforcements from across the world, new rebels spring up daily as a result of us just being there.
In a attrition game they will win if we don't call up the draft IMO, too bad no US city has gone boom yet to make this viable...poor bush.
Well, he could always call up the draft anyway, it's not like bald-faced lying is anything new to his family when it comes to campaigning promises.

Are you stating that you feel that a US city needs to be attacked to justify the current situtation and activate the draft.

Maybe a draft would then bring in all those that do not appreciate the sacrifice that others before have made in order for a few people to copmlain about their right to have freedom and destroy the way of life that has allowed such freedom to exist.

 

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Originally posted by: Literati
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kind of a pathetic offensive if you ask me if the best you can do is wound 20 and get wiped out.


Sprinkle that with a little firing on and hitting the people whom you're "fighting" for and we've got about as good as they can give.
LOL I'd honestly like to see you people do better.

I can just see it, the redneck right-wingers gather together in pick-up trucks with shotguns etc. to attack the "oppressive" left-wing government. Only to suffer massive casualties and inflict no casualties on the American army. As for most of the Iraqi's being against the insurgency, I don't really think so. That is what you hear in the US media but abroad it is a different story.
 

Literati

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Originally posted by: Proletariat

LOL I'd honestly like to see you people do better.

I guess well never know since I don't plan on attacking US soldiers anytime soon.

Originally posted by: Proletariat
I can just see it, the redneck right-wingers gather together in pick-up trucks with shotguns etc. to attack the "oppressive" left-wing government. Only to suffer massive casualties and inflict no casualties on the American army.

You got all that from that tiny off the cuff remark?

Originally posted by: Proletariat
As for most of the Iraqi's being against the insurgency, I don't really think so. That is what you hear in the US media but abroad it is a different story.

I don't know if that's directed at me or not, but I'm going to throw in my two cents anyways. I've heard otherwise, both from Iraqi's living in my city, with family still in Iraq with whom they still keep in touch with, and from soldiers in Iraq.

See, when you keep an open mind and a little respectfullness with a touch of intelligence, you can get real perspectives, from real people.

Stop being ignorant. Read a book.
 

Starbuck1975

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And if you believe that US cablenews propaganda I have a reporter position for you at foxnews open to offer. And a big slice of yellow cake and some kool-aid to wash it down, yum!
I get my information from my former commanding officer and mentor who is serving in Bagdad right now...I prefer to gauge the condition of things in Iraq straight from the soldiers fighting there as opposed to the political slant of news channels with their own agendas.

And being that he has no reason to sugar coat anything, I would take his word over any other news source.