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joutlaw

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What about cooking with lump charcoal... it's actual large pieces of wood that have been charred... not compressed bits of wood compressed with filler material.

I never use instant light charcoal or light charcoal with lighter fluid. I place a charcoal chimney over a propane burner to start it.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: sdifox

According to wiki, only the US South considers BBQ to refer strictly to slow smoke cooking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue

Oxford dictionary says this



barbecue

? noun 1 an outdoor meal or party at which food is grilled on a rack over a charcoal fire. 2 a grill used at a barbecue.

? verb (barbecues, barbecued, barbecuing) cook (food) on a barbecue.

? ORIGIN originally in the sense "wooden framework for sleeping on, or for drying meat or fish on": from Spanish barbacoa, perhaps from Arawak, ?wooden frame on posts?.


I tend to follow the British definition a bit more. And it may only take a few minutes to cook the steak on charcoal, it will definitely acquire the charcoal taste.

So does that mean dinner is still at 5 of 6? I'm getting hungry!
 

Miramonti

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"Grilling" nazi's always annoy me (as do most nazi's) because I can't understand why anyone gives a cr@p why they are bothered when someone refers to it as bbq'ing.

Smoking - otherwise known as barbeque -

That said...since when is smoking the same as bbq'ing?? lol :confused:
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: sdifox

According to wiki, only the US South considers BBQ to refer strictly to slow smoke cooking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue

Oxford dictionary says this



barbecue

? noun 1 an outdoor meal or party at which food is grilled on a rack over a charcoal fire. 2 a grill used at a barbecue.

? verb (barbecues, barbecued, barbecuing) cook (food) on a barbecue.

? ORIGIN originally in the sense "wooden framework for sleeping on, or for drying meat or fish on": from Spanish barbacoa, perhaps from Arawak, ?wooden frame on posts?.


I tend to follow the British definition a bit more. And it may only take a few minutes to cook the steak on charcoal, it will definitely acquire the charcoal taste.

So does that mean dinner is still at 5 of 6? I'm getting hungry!

Earliest proper time for dinner is 7pm.

too bad the local bylaw prohibits me from cutting any tree with circumference >1ft, or I would have turned the cherry tree pit into a firepit :D
 

KK

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I've heard those electric smokers don't smoke as good as propane. Something about the wood chunks not igniting very well. I've been looking for a decent vertical propane smoker thats wide enough to put a rack of ribs in. The one's at lowes, sears, and walmart are only about maybe 18 inches wide. It would be fine for a butt and chicken, but to small for ribs unless you cut them in half.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: sdifox
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Ealiest dinner can be is 7pm.

Dinner is the afternoon meal between 11 and 2. Supper is the evening meal after 6.

If you are bbqing, it is not supper. There is nothing that is light in a proper bbq.
 

jteef

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i use a gas grill because the convenience can't be beat. no mess, takes 2 minutes to heat up and cooks meat well. Charcoal does taste different, but when you cook outside 5 nights / week, its really lame. about 5 years ago we got a cookshack electric smoker. this thing is a modern marvel. excellent tasting food, simple to use, simple to clean, no messing with the right wood/water mix. no worrying about the fire going out while you're gone fishin for the day. since then, i haven't even considered using the $400 weber smoker we had previously
 

gorcorps

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Nobody cares about your uppity 'holier than thou' definitions. I usually call it grilling, but since you're such an elitist prick about it I'm going to start referring to it as BBQ out of spite. In fact I'm going to throw even more BBQs just so I can use my new favorite term more.
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: nkgreen
Originally posted by: JDub02
From those definitions, we can determine that the charcoal vs gas debate with respect to grills is a pointless one because the meat is not on the heat long enough to absorb a flavor from either source (unless you count residual lighter fluid on charcoal).

Absolute utter BS. I can taste lighter fluid as well as propane.

Charcoal chimney FTW.

This. Also real wood charcoal, not that briquette shite.
 

DrPizza

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Only the elitist Southerners get all uppity about barbeque being superior to grilling & declare that their bbq is superior.

Of course, we Yankees recognize the superiority of cooking a nice rib eye on the grill in 6 minutes while the Southerners rejoice in wasting multiple hours cooking a low-quality cut of meat on the grill super-slowly in order to impart some edibleness and to turn what would normally be shoe leather into something tender. Hell, it takes 4 or 5 hours to add flavor to some of those cuts of meat, so I think it's only fair that we let them take pride in making what we consider inedible to actually be tasty.

;) :p
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Only the elitist Southerners get all uppity about barbeque being superior to grilling & declare that their bbq is superior.

Of course, we Yankees recognize the superiority of cooking a nice rib eye on the grill in 6 minutes while the Southerners rejoice in wasting multiple hours cooking a low-quality cut of meat on the grill super-slowly in order to impart some edibleness and to turn what would normally be shoe leather into something tender. Hell, it takes 4 or 5 hours to add flavor to some of those cuts of meat, so I think it's only fair that we let them take pride in making what we consider inedible to actually be tasty.

;) :p

OK - that was about the most super troll post EVAR by a mod. Well done.

<pinky mouth>
Or should I say medium-rare?
;)
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: nkgreen
Originally posted by: JDub02
From those definitions, we can determine that the charcoal vs gas debate with respect to grills is a pointless one because the meat is not on the heat long enough to absorb a flavor from either source (unless you count residual lighter fluid on charcoal).

Absolute utter BS. I can taste lighter fluid as well as propane.

Charcoal chimney FTW.

This. Also real wood charcoal, not that briquette shite.

Do people actually refer to briquette as charcoal? Maybe that is the problem in that some people hear charcoal and their brain says briquette?
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: sdifox
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Ealiest dinner can be is 7pm.

Dinner is the afternoon meal between 11 and 2. Supper is the evening meal after 6.

:confused: Whens my lunch then?

I'm still trying to figure out what all of this means if I eat my supper at 5??? I can't help it I start the day so early. :p

Related to the thread... looking forward to smoking ribs, grilling wings, and cooking up some low country boil over the weekend for the SEC tournament!
 

rootaxs

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Originally posted by: JDub02
First, let's define the terms:

Must be a U.S. thing. In most countries i've been to, Barbeque can mean anything that's cooked over flame, be it charcoal, wood, glowing red hot stones or gas.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: rootaxs
Originally posted by: JDub02
First, let's define the terms:

Must be a U.S. thing. In most countries i've been to, Barbeque can mean anything that's cooked over flame, be it charcoal, wood, glowing red hot stones or gas.

you bbq your mac'n cheese?
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: nkgreen
Originally posted by: JDub02
From those definitions, we can determine that the charcoal vs gas debate with respect to grills is a pointless one because the meat is not on the heat long enough to absorb a flavor from either source (unless you count residual lighter fluid on charcoal).

Absolute utter BS. I can taste lighter fluid as well as propane.

Charcoal chimney FTW.

This. Also real wood charcoal, not that briquette shite.

Do people actually refer to briquette as charcoal? Maybe that is the problem in that some people hear charcoal and their brain says briquette?

yes id say the vast majority does
 

rootaxs

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: rootaxs
Originally posted by: JDub02
First, let's define the terms:

Must be a U.S. thing. In most countries i've been to, Barbeque can mean anything that's cooked over flame, be it charcoal, wood, glowing red hot stones or gas.

you bbq your mac'n cheese?

Actually, i have. Check out the Barbecue Bible for a really good recipe.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: rootaxs
Originally posted by: JDub02
First, let's define the terms:

Must be a U.S. thing. In most countries i've been to, Barbeque can mean anything that's cooked over flame, be it charcoal, wood, glowing red hot stones or gas.

you bbq your mac'n cheese?

I do. It's fabulous. Think about it - you smoke cheese, right? Think about how good smoked cheese is and do that with mac-n-cheese. It's awesome.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: sdifox
Do people actually refer to briquette as charcoal? Maybe that is the problem in that some people hear charcoal and their brain says briquette?

yes id say the vast majority does

That would explain the issue. People are thinking briquette when they hear charcoal. I would hate it too if it is briquette.

Fucking illiterates.