Greatest takedown of Trump I have seen

[SteveGrabowski]

From Greg Popovich, coach of the Spurs

 

[SteveGrabowski]

You'd put your 9 year-old in time out for acting like this fuck that's going to become president

 

[manly]

I didn't watch the whole thing, but the 2 min clip on Reddit was awesome.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's almost like people hate their lives that they would want to vote for him, but I just can't imagine what grudge they'd be holding.

Hello Darkness, my old friend, Chaos trumps Emptiness.

Do you want to know what love is? Do you want me to show you or are you just another brick in the Wall?

 

[soulcougher73]

Great interview. Nice and calm discussion on how Trump is nobody you’d want your kids to act like or be babysat by and the future he would take from them.

 

[akugami]

Agree with Pop 100%.

Pop had one of the strongest comments on Trump. "You wouldn't have him babysit your kids."

That's on top of all the other things we've been calling Trump out on, that conservatives ignore.

Now, magats may want Trump to babysit their kids, but I wouldn't want that turd within 1000 feet of my children.

 

[Amused]

This will just be dismissed by MAGA as "TDS."

It's sad, really. Any legitimate evidence based criticism of Trump is instantly labeled as "Trump derangement syndrome" and dismissed without ANY critical thought and a fucking boatload of really fsckin lame whataboutisms.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I wouldn't let Turmp near the babysitter, let alone the kids.

Meanwhile Joey Nick Bosa is back to being openly racist. That he chooses now, when Turmp and Republicans are openly being Nazi level racists as a desperation move to get votes just prior to the election, to rock his MAGA shit. What's hilarious though is he's a chickenshit. He took down all his old racist Twitter shit because he was afraid SF would hate his ass and it'd sink his career. Guess he's ok with being known as a racist piece of shit again. Let me guess, he's just "proud of his heritage"?

Aww, shit, its Nick.

 

[DarthKyrie]

I wouldn't let Turmp near the babysitter, let alone the kids.

Meanwhile Joey Bosa is back to being openly racist. That he chooses now, when Turmp and Republicans are openly being Nazi level racists as a desperation move to get votes just prior to the election, to rock his MAGA shit. What's hilarious though is he's a chickenshit. He took down all his old racist Twitter shit because he was afraid SF would hate his ass and it'd sink his career. Guess he's ok with being known as a racist piece of shit again. Let me guess, he's just "proud of his heritage"?

FUCK Joey Bosa. That is all.

Edit: I forgot to add that he needs to FUCK himself with a turbo charged chainsaw.

 

[soulcougher73]

I wouldn't let Turmp near the babysitter, let alone the kids.

Meanwhile Joey Bosa is back to being openly racist. That he chooses now, when Turmp and Republicans are openly being Nazi level racists as a desperation move to get votes just prior to the election, to rock his MAGA shit. What's hilarious though is he's a chickenshit. He took down all his old racist Twitter shit because he was afraid SF would hate his ass and it'd sink his career. Guess he's ok with being known as a racist piece of shit again. Let me guess, he's just "proud of his heritage"?

What did he do recently? I must have missed this. Just trying to stay up with the news

 

[Perknose]

From Greg Popovich, coach of the Spurs

Thank you for that. Popovich, one of the finer human beings in pro sports, speaks for all of us non-Trumpers who are still trying to understand . . . WHY?

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Thank you for that. Popovich, one of the finer human beings in pro sports, speaks for all of us non-Trumpers who are still trying to understand . . . WHY?

Because Trumpers hate us, want us punished, and know Trump will do it. The fascism and violence is a feature, not a bug to the white nationalist right.

 

[manly]

This will just be dismissed by MAGA as "TDS."

It's sad, really. Any legitimate evidence based criticism of Trump is instantly labeled as "Trump derangement syndrome" and dismissed without ANY critical thought and a fucking boatload of really fsckin lame whataboutisms.

I find TDS hilariously ironic.
Like if you're a Trump cult member and attribute all these wonderful attributes and successes to DJT that are non-factual, who really has the "derangement syndrome?"

What did he do recently? I must have missed this. Just trying to stay up with the news

It was Nick Bosa being a MAGAt on national TV, and the only thing the NFL will do is fine him $11k. His brother Joey plays for the Chargers, and I would be surprised if they had opposing political leanings.

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I'm generally not a stickler for spelling on the interweb, but it's a bit ironic that Spurs superfan Steve misspelled Popovich's first name in the OP.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

It's almost like people hate their lives that they would want to vote for him, but I just can't imagine what grudge they'd be holding.

Hello Darkness, my old friend, Chaos trumps Emptiness.

Do you want to know what love is? Do you want me to show you or are you just another brick in the Wall?

I think you nailed something there, Moonie. I've just posted in another thread, describing a lunch I had with a friend, with my loud voice and my hearing aids turned off. We didn't think anyone was sharing that restaurant with us, but after talking about cars, we discussed the election. I remember one point that I made: Trump supporters either hate their lives or they hate their country as it has evolved socially, politically and economically over 100 years. IF not, they're totally ignorant as to what the circle of Trump's entourage have planned in their "Project 2025". As the two upset Trumpies left the restaurant, one attempted to tell me that I was ill-informed, telling me that "Trump did not take credit for the [book written by that entourage]." I barely got a chance to tell her "Of course not!" -- But what a stupid argument.

I think the most unsettling and offensive thing you can probably say to a Trumper who wraps himself in the Flag and calls himself "Patriot", is that they really must hate America to wish the rest of us to suffer under that sociopath and criminal.

I'm glad I didn't say this at lunch, though: I'd like to smack one of those people in the face for a plastic surgeon's nightmare. Harris and the Dems want to "embrace" them and insist on being "President for everyone". That's called "civility" and prudent election strategy. Biden sort of let the cat out of the bag today by calling them "Garbage" after the MSG remark about Puerto Rico.

I live in an incorporated city which is at least purple and growing more blue all the time. I feel comfortable here, despite the summer heat, or the real-estate taxes I could pay but for my house in a family trust designated to pay the old Prop 13 taxes.

I'm going to an All Souls Day mass at church on the 2nd, honoring my lovely old Moms and my brother who were buried a year ago. I know some of those Catholics helped to elect that Anti-Christ sumbitch. I'll just have to defer creating that plastic surgeon's nightmare. Harris and her campaign have remained civil. I completely lost my cool years ago.

I suppose if Harris gets her way about the Supremes and returning to Roe v Wade through statute, I'd hope we could publicly subsidize GOP voter abortions -- to improve human progress. And abortion was never a strong issue with me; I was indifferent until I examined the entire logical landscape against our history and similar issues. But Roe v Wade made it a human right, and you can't just "leave it to the states". We tried to do that about another moral issue around 1859. Can you imagine how the Trumpers would go ballistic, to call abortion a "moral issue"? That's because they have no understanding of the difference between religious moral law, and secular law. A human right is something separate from the former. When did the Bible or any religion prior to the Civil War promote The Bill of Rights for any others than white people?

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I'm generally not a stickler for spelling on the interweb, but it's a bit ironic that Spurs superfan Steve misspelled Popovich's first name in the OP.

Ugh I can never remember if it's one G or two.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think you nailed something there, Moonie. I've just posted in another thread, describing a lunch I had with a friend, with my loud voice and my hearing aids turned off. We didn't think anyone was sharing that restaurant with us, but after talking about cars, we discussed the election. I remember one point that I made: Trump supporters either hate their lives or they hate their country as it has evolved socially, politically and economically over 100 years. IF not, they're totally ignorant as to what the circle of Trump's entourage have planned in their "Project 2025". As the two upset Trumpies left the restaurant, one attempted to tell me that I was ill-informed, telling me that "Trump did not take credit for the [book written by that entourage]." I barely got a chance to tell her "Of course not!" -- But what a stupid argument.

I think the most unsettling and offensive thing you can probably say to a Trumper who wraps himself in the Flag and calls himself "Patriot", is that they really must hate America to wish the rest of us to suffer under that sociopath and criminal.

I'm glad I didn't say this at lunch, though: I'd like to smack one of those people in the face for a plastic surgeon's nightmare. Harris and the Dems want to "embrace" them and insist on being "President for everyone". That's called "civility" and prudent election strategy. Biden sort of let the cat out of the bag today by calling them "Garbage" after the MSG remark about Puerto Rico.

I live in an incorporated city which is at least purple and growing more blue all the time. I feel comfortable here, despite the summer heat, or the real-estate taxes I could pay but for my house in a family trust designated to pay the old Prop 13 taxes.

I'm going to an All Souls Day mass at church on the 2nd, honoring my lovely old Moms and my brother who were buried a year ago. I know some of those Catholics helped to elect that Anti-Christ sumbitch. I'll just have to defer creating that plastic surgeon's nightmare. Harris and her campaign have remained civil. I completely lost my cool years ago.

I suppose if Harris gets her way about the Supremes and returning to Roe v Wade through statute, I'd hope we could publicly subsidize GOP voter abortions -- to improve human progress. And abortion was never a strong issue with me; I was indifferent until I examined the entire logical landscape against our history and similar issues. But Roe v Wade made it a human right, and you can't just "leave it to the states". We tried to do that about another moral issue around 1859. Can you imagine how the Trumpers would go ballistic, to call abortion a "moral issue"? That's because they have no understanding of the difference between religious moral law, and secular law. A human right is something separate from the former. When did the Bible or any religion prior to the Civil War promote The Bill of Rights for any others than white people?

Trump means so much less to me that the beautiful long suffering mind you have remains so bitter. The passion you put into your posts weigh me down like chains in a tomultuous river. You make me want to rage against the dying light.

I felt all that suffering long ago. My search for surcease took me to the edge of despair and I surrendered to my fate of inescapable unhappiness and just let go. A gust of wind hit my house and I woke up completely free of suffering at peace. In a flash I understood everything. The need for meaning is as meaningless as everything else, a need I felt that was self created. There is only me who creates the universe, the alpha and the omega. Life is when I am.

Before that timeI knew almost nothing. I understood all the fundamentals but had not integrated them. It is obvious to even a childish observer that people are conditioned, that they identify with isms that are dreams. I could see their dishonesty while I suffered from the callowness of their behavior and hated them for what they did to me and all of life. Why would they make me and all of life their victim? I blamed them and called them worthless. I was filled with and while my understanding has grown and do not suffer consciously by chance of grace, I harbor still all kinds of bitterness and self pity.

That is why the post you quoted in which you expressed a sympathy wills me with guilt. That post is full of my bitterness at the fact that people suffer needlessly because they will not see I have told them a million times why they are in pain and how to escape from it.

I know I nailed something in that post. I said what I always say a million times over, that the reasons we create a world full of misery and suffering is because of one simple thing, we hate ourselves. But it is not just the deplorable who do, it is all of us who feel rage, who have not freed themselves from emotional attachment to things, who suffer and strike out at others because we can’t remember and thus transcend the unconscious misery of our forgotten past.

My apologies for posting sarcastically because I am bitter at myself because I too can’t hear the truth I say.

But think, what can really explain self destruction of all of life’s bounty and joy of bringing were it not we had been told along the line that we are worthless. Why else would our life ambition be the will to rearrange someone’s face.

I don’t criticize you for feeling that. What I want is to do the same, to punish those who harm, to pay them back in more than full measure. But the realization that is all the result of having bought into the lies that I caused the misery of those who destroyed me out of their own misery have made me in their image. My desire to harm is there because I was harmed.

When I examined why I suffer I experience the bliss of grace. To be or not to be? To wish grace for others by bearing my cross, or acting out to get even for the pain I have felt. I have seen that everything I ever wished for and was taken from me as as undeserved pleasure, was only buried under a mountain of lies. When the door of truth stands open there is only love.

 

[Muse]

Great interview. Nice and calm discussion on how Trump is nobody you’d want your kids to act like or be babysat by and the future he would take from them.

Really this was my first thought when he won in 2016. It was very bad news for the country.

 

[Muse]

I find TDS hilariously ironic.
Like if you're a Trump cult member and attribute all these wonderful attributes and successes to DJT that are non-factual, who really has the "derangement syndrome?"



It was Nick Bosa being a MAGAt on national TV, and the only thing the NFL will do is fine him $11k. His brother Joey plays for the Chargers, and I would be surprised if they had opposing political leanings.

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I'm generally not a stickler for spelling on the interweb, but it's a bit ironic that Spurs superfan Steve misspelled Popovich's first name in the OP.

Was Nick Bosa wearing a MAGA hat? I saw that bit live on TV, had no idea what to make if it.

 

[akugami]

It's been well known that Nick Bosa is Maga for a long while now. I watch sports for the fun of sports. It's not real life. I always hate it when real life intrudes on sports. Knowing how shitty of a person Nick Bosa is, is a case of real life intruding on sports. And Nick Bosa being a douche is not new news.

 

[DarthKyrie]

It's been well known that Nick Bosa is Maga for a long while now. I watch sports for the fun of sports. It's not real life. I always hate it when real life intrudes on sports. Knowing how shitty of a person Nick Bosa is, is a case of real life intruding on sports. And Nick Bosa being a douche is not new news.

Both brothers are pieces of shit humans.

 

[Muse]

It's been well known that Nick Bosa is Maga for a long while now. I watch sports for the fun of sports. It's not real life. I always hate it when real life intrudes on sports. Knowing how shitty of a person Nick Bosa is, is a case of real life intruding on sports. And Nick Bosa being a douche is not new news.

No hint when I watch 9ers games, but now I wonder why they don't trade him to a team in a red state, goddamnit.

 

[manly]

No hint when I watch 9ers games, but now I wonder why they don't trade him to a team in a red state, goddamnit.

No offense, but you really don't know how the NFL works. Roughly 3/4 of its owners are Republican supporters. That doesn't mean the other 1/4 are progressives, just that they are relatively moderate.

Bosa family aside, I believe the McCaffreys also lean right but they don't try to advertise it. And if you're a Giants baseball fan, the owner is a MAGA faithful to the core. Most sports fans divorce their political opinions from their fandom.* All they (and the owners) truly care about is can you play?

* They kind of have to, since the vast majority of teams are owned by conservative oligarchs.

 

[Muse]

No offense, but you really don't know how the NFL works. Roughly 3/4 of its owners are Republican supporters. That doesn't mean the other 1/4 are progressives, just that they are relatively moderate.

Bosa family aside, I believe the McCaffreys also lean right but they don't try to advertise it. And if you're a Giants baseball fan, the owner is a MAGA faithful to the core. Most sports fans divorce their political opinions from their fandom.* All they (and the owners) truly care about is can you play?

* They kind of have to, since the vast majority of teams are owned by conservative oligarchs.

And you know how the NFL works, I suppose.

Shanahan should admonish Bosa for crashing that live interview with a penalty that stings. If he doesn't, he's a dummy. John Lynch should weigh in for sure. Look, the 9ers are in a very blue region. Bosa's antics just add to the sense of 9ers' dysfunctionality.

 

[manly]

And you know how the NFL works, I suppose.

Shanahan should admonish Bosa for crashing that live interview with a penalty that stings. If he doesn't, he's a dummy. John Lynch should weigh in for sure. Look, the 9ers are in a very blue region. Bosa's antics just add to the sense of 9ers' dysfunctionality.

I already explained it to you, but you can double down on your ignorance of how the NFL works. They have a rich tradition of ignoring players' off-the-field issues so long as they can perform. Shanahan is trying to finally win a Super Bowl, not play to local politics. What makes you think Shanahan or Lynch even cares about progressive issues?

Like I already mentioned, SF Giants owner Charles Johnson is a full-on MAGAt. And although he's taken a little flack for that, he's never apologized or truly lost any fan support.

I'm not saying Bosa can do whatever the fuck he wants to, but that NFL tolerance towards its superstars is quite high. The league will fine him $11k, and the team will simply move on. Quite frankly, if we actually punished teams for shitty players or owners, there wouldn't be very many teams left to root for.

In short, the NFL is way behind the curve of say where the NBA currently stands with player activism. The best player in the game, Patrick Mahomes, refused to call out his kicker for being a devolved MAGAt. Mahomes seemingly didn't want to offend his sponsors or MAGA owner.

I'm not telling you what to believe, I'm just saying how it is today. Things could change, slowly, over time. Don't hold your breath, though.

 

[Muse]

I liked Eddie D, don't know what his politics were. 9ers were fun in those days.

Not a Giants fan, I paid no attention to MLB this year until the WS (I don't think the other series were on OTA TV), which was a gas (born in NYC, grew up in L.A. and my dad had Dodgers' season tickets). Guess I saw Sandy Koufax in person.

Hard to be a 9ers fan these days, I don't expect them to win a SB anytime soon. They always blow a tire, etc.