Grandmother Attacked Outside Planned Parenthood!

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Juddog

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The attacker should be charged and locked up in jail. What the grandmother did was stupid and not smart but its not illegal and she was using her free speech.

Shame on you to all the idiots who think the innocent grandmother deserved it.

Anybody who attacks old people should get charged, but the old lady shouldn't have tried to use her old age as a defense tactic either, and she should have expected some retribution for harassing people. I can go to a football game, and if I harass random people, I can expect to get attacked, it's human behavior.
 

DominionSeraph

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It's just sad how many people are attempting to justify this because it's the "other" team getting assaulted and denied their rights, but would be going ballistic if, say, private security guards did this same thing to protestors on a public sidewalk outside some big corporation's headquarters.

In an almost certainty, the protesters outside the corporate building would be protesting abuses against the people. This would be thus be analogous to protesting a grandmother perpetrating abuses against others.

The grandmother is an evil, uncaring entity trying to push her product at the expense of everyone else, so it is consistent to be just as angered at her behavior as a corporation's unethical business practices.

Just because we happen to use the same verbs for two things doesn't mean they're analogous in every, or even most forms. L2logic.
 
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Anybody who attacks old people should get charged, but the old lady shouldn't have tried to use her old age as a defense tactic either, and she should have expected some retribution for harassing people. I can go to a football game, and if I harass random people, I can expect to get attacked, it's human behavior.

People will say things you disagree with and they have no right to assault you. The grandmother was wrong but she had the right to do it and shouldn't face charges. The lady who attacked her should be charged and locked up.
 

Juddog

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People will say things you disagree with and they have no right to assault you. The grandmother was wrong but she had the right to do it and shouldn't face charges. The lady who attacked her should be charged and locked up.

I agree that the person attacking should be charged, but I see no difference between what the old lady was doing here versus what the Westboro Baptist church does when they protest at a slain soldier's funeral.
 
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I agree that the person attacking should be charged, but I see no difference between what the old lady was doing here versus what the Westboro Baptist church does when they protest at a slain soldier's funeral.

Agree on the bold. I disagree with what the lady was doing but it was nothing comparable to the wbc. All she did was record to show others about the dangers of abortions since she is pro-life. Compare what she did to the wbc is totally different and the wbc even admits doing it to gain attention.
 

Darwin333

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Do you think the woman responsible for the attack should face charges.


absofuckinglutely. Assault is assault regardless if you think the other person is acting like an asshole.

Should the clinic be investigated to find out whats going on over there with this many botched abortions .

If they count this incident as a "botched abortion" then no. This was some asshat doing something stupid outside of the clinic that had nothing to do with actual medical procedures. OTOH, if they have proof of negligently botched medical procedures then perhaps an investigation is due.
 

Darwin333

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I agree that the person attacking should be charged, but I see no difference between what the old lady was doing here versus what the Westboro Baptist church does when they protest at a slain soldier's funeral.

Article says the woman often went there to pray. Pretty big fucking difference between praying and showing up to a funeral with signs and slogans saying they are glad the person is dead, he/she deserved it, etc....
 

ElFenix

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Article says the woman often went there to pray. Pretty big fucking difference between praying and showing up to a funeral with signs and slogans saying they are glad the person is dead, he/she deserved it, etc....

the "article" is a one sided account with a conveniently hacked up video. for all we know in the parts that were skipped this old lady was acting just like WBC.
 

DominionSeraph

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Pretty big fucking difference between praying and showing up to a funeral with signs and slogans saying they are glad the person is dead, he/she deserved it, etc....

the "article" is a one sided account with a conveniently hacked up video. for all we know in the parts that were skipped this old lady was acting just like WBC.

Same name: http://raeblog.blogspot.com/
She seems to hang out with people in classy, non-offensive attire:

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DominionSeraph

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"Praying," huh? So God needs signs?

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"Hey, God, women do regret abortion!"
God: "Uhhhh... why are you telling me this?"

"Face it, abortion kills!"
God: "So do I."
 

lotus503

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Doesn't excuse the assault but does prove video was a disingenuous propaganda piece.
 

zinfamous

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Maybe you'll get what's coming to you one day. The grandmother prayed. You are glad she was hurt. Seems your attitude merits violence more than her. Yeah you don't care and we know it.

She was trying to take records of people that have a protected right to maintain their privacy.

Fuck her.
 

umbrella39

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Doesn't excuse the assault but does prove video was a disingenuous propaganda piece.

Shh.. don't confuse the feigned indignant with facts. I am confident most folks here would have reacted similarly if someone was filming any of their family members against their will going to or from a medical facility via ambulance/stretcher. Especially if there was a verbal taunts leading up to it. Like most are saying the lady who grabbed her phone should be held responsible, too. Sometimes it's worth it? Based on some of the photos of these fine, upstanding Christians, it sounds like as long as you don't mind doing the time and replacing what you break it's a "good shoot", would have been better if she had actually broken the phone though, didn't really solve anything if you leave it intact to be selectively edited and shown on the Interwebz...
 
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lotus503

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Shh.. don't confuse the feigned indignant with facts. I am confident most folks here would have reacted similarly if someone was filming any of their family members against their will going to or from a medical facility via ambulance/stretcher. Especially if there was a verbal taunts leading up to it. Like most are saying the lady who grabbed her phone should be held responsible, too. Sometimes it's worth it? Based on some of the photos of these fine, upstanding Christians, it sounds like as long as you don't mind doing the time and replacing what you break it's a "good shoot", would have been better if she had actually broken the phone though, didn't really solve anything if you leave it intact to be selectively edited and shown on the Interwebz...


Well you highlighted something. Sometimes its worth it, it seems since the person told someone prior to engaging that she would be in jail she made a choice to go after her despite the consequences.

That doesn't whoever mean there shouldn't be consequences, had it been my wife or daughter in the clinic at the time I very well may have done something similar damn the consequences. Just like I may have murdered those shits in Ohio had it been my daughter.
 

soundforbjt

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Shh.. don't confuse the feigned indignant with facts. I am confident most folks here would have reacted similarly if someone was filming any of their family members against their will going to or from a medical facility via ambulance/stretcher. Especially if there was a verbal taunts leading up to it. Like most are saying the lady who grabbed her phone should be held responsible, too. Sometimes it's worth it? Based on some of the photos of these fine, upstanding Christians, it sounds like as long as you don't mind doing the time and replacing what you break it's a "good shoot", would have been better if she had actually broken the phone though, didn't really solve anything if you leave it intact to be selectively edited and shown on the Interwebz...

Especially to be shown on an upstanding site like The Blaze...:whiste:
 

Mursilis

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Shh.. don't confuse the feigned indignant with facts. I am confident most folks here would have reacted similarly if someone was filming any of their family members against their will going to or from a medical facility via ambulance/stretcher. Especially if there was a verbal taunts leading up to it.

Was there?
 

CLite

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don't think you'll ever get the answer to that one, unless there were some PP supporters there filming independently. Grandma is not going to give you that bit of video :D

Yeah, there is no reason to have cut out the 4 minutes except for propaganda purposes.

Time 0 = happy sunshine
Time 4 minute = The soon to be assaulter saying "I'll talk to you later I will be in jail shortly"

The four minutes wouldn't make any difference, as the assaulter still needs to be charged and I'm already 99.5% certain based on the deletion of the video that it will show grandma is an asshole.
 
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Unless she physically provoked them then there should be no charges. If she just said some stuff that was offensive then its not illegal.