GPU for Gaming at 144Hz 1080p High Details

[Thinker_145]

Did somebody just recommend the 4GB 480 in a thread where someone has the budget for a 1070? Man this forum never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

Did somebody just recommend the 4GB 480 in a thread where someone has the budget for a 1070? Man this forum never ceases to amaze me.

The OP actually never gave us a budget. The perf/$ people are here splitting cents but we don't even know how much he has set aside for his upgrade to begin with.

If there's no budget limit the GTX 1070 is a no brainer, I'd push that to if there is no budget that he should pick up a 6700k while he's at it.

 

[Bacon1]

The asus is $367. The website is also in english https://www.alza.cz/EN/ so you are all wlcome to look at the prices they offer. The prices are in Czech crowns and at current exchange rate for dollar just devide it by 25,4.

So I see
4gb 480 for 6500: https://www.alza.cz/EN/sapphire-radeon-nitro-rx-480-4-gigabytes-d4383006.htm?o=1

8gb 480 for 7,543: https://www.alza.cz/EN/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-480-8gb-oc-d4475727.htm?catid=18859406

1070 for 11990: https://www.alza.cz/EN/zotac-geforce-gtx-amp-1070-d4354712.htm?o=2

So ~84% more for 1070 over the 4gb, ~58% more expensive for the 1070 over the 8gb.

Their site is semi hard to navigate so sorry if I missed any cheaper ones.

 

[Bacon1]

Did somebody just recommend the 4GB 480 in a thread where someone has the budget for a 1070? Man this forum never ceases to amaze me.

He wants to play @ 1080p with non-maxed settings in mostly older or non-graphic intensive games. Why would you recommend a CPU bound 1070 for that?

 

[Thinker_145]

I have no interest in arguing with those who still recommend 4GB cards in 2016. The 8GB 480 vs 1070 is a legit comparison but as soon as you bring in a fury or 4GB 480 you just lose credibility.

OP do whatever you do just don't buy a 4GB card. I am tried of arguing with low VRAM champs again and again. They have been proven wrong every single generation so don't pay heed to them.

 

[Bacon1]

I have no interest in arguing with those who still recommend 4GB cards in 2016. The 8GB 480 vs 1070 is a legit comparison but as soon as you bring in a fury or 4GB 480 you just lose credibility.

OP do whatever you do just don't buy a 4GB card. I am tried of arguing with low VRAM champs again and again. They have been proven wrong every single generation so don't pay heed to them.

This is awful advice. Read the OP and what his needs are.

Games that I play are Witcher 3, Xcom2, Overwatch, WoW, HOTS, and possibly other AAA games that are worth the time and are well optimised. But most my time I spend in WOW, HOTS and Overwatch. I would like to play on high details (ultra is not necessary).

A 4GB card will do perfect for that and will save him a lot of money.

 

[Justforcause]

Which website are you looking at for pricing?

This one: https://www.alza.cz/EN/ Prices are in CZK so devide by 25,4 to get dollars.

 

[Bacon1]

This one: https://www.alza.cz/EN/ Prices are in CZK so devide by 25,4 to get dollars.

Thanks yeah I saw it linked from another post and made some comparisions here: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...80p-high-details.2489293/page-2#post-38526701

 

[Justforcause]

So 697e or 811e is the bottom line here for total upgrade. You never did tell us your absolute budget limit, or do you not have one? If you don't have one at those prices just get the 1070 and free game. It will give you excellent performance in all your titles and by the time it hits the point where you're going below 60 fps you it will probably be time to upgrade your GPU.

Honestly I don't have a limit I work have monthly income. But lets say approx 826 dollars or 766euros (21 000 crowns) is kind of a limit.

 

[Thinker_145]

A 1070 is completely overkill for the games OP bolded, I'm not going to bother arguing. If OP digs deep enough they can find threads consisting of people disagreeing with your overkill advice.

And I might be way off, but from what I see most gamers consider variable refresh rate monitors necessary. It's just rude and narrow minded to provide OP with advice when they're obviously not aware of the importance of the G/Free-sync decision.

Now there's the debate OP may need more power for the other games mentioned to reach full 144Hz. But OP already said they're not running full settings, and maxing refresh rates means you've wasted money on G/Free-sync and/or a too powerful card. And there can be no debate the card I suggested will play all games mentioned at respectable fps at less than max settings.

Now if OP came in here saying they want to max things out (and generally sounding like you do) then I would give different advice. Because I can see things from different points of view

Hmm no not every gamer considers A-Sync necessary. That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

 

[Bacon1]

Hmm no not every gamer considers A-Sync necessary. That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

OP said he wanted it...

Regarding display I am going for Asus MG248Q.

Adaptive sync makes a huge difference in the quality of gameplay / IQ when you can prevent tearing without having to use vsync / borderless windowed mode with increased input lag. Especially for action games which OP is playing.

Stop trying to push your own agenda and listen to what the OP is asking about and needs.

 

[Thinker_145]

The OP actually never gave us a budget. The perf/$ people are here splitting cents but we don't even know how much he has set aside for his upgrade to begin with.

If there's no budget limit the GTX 1070 is a no brainer, I'd push that to if there is no budget that he should pick up a 6700k while he's at it.

He clearly states in his second comment that he can buy the 1070.

He already has a 6500 so getting a 6700k isn't exactly a wise thing for now.

 

[Thinker_145]

OP said he wanted it...



Adaptive sync makes a huge difference in the quality of gameplay / IQ when you can prevent tearing without having to use vsync / borderless windowed mode with increased input lag. Especially for action games which OP is playing.

Stop trying to push your own agenda and listen to what the OP is asking about and needs.

When did OP say a thing about adaptive sync? He probably doesn't even know what it is as I have talked to him in the other thread about monitor recommendation and he never once talked about A-Sync.

You are the one who is pushing an agenda here not me. A-Sync is for those who have problems with input lag and not everyone has a problem with it. Nvidia also has fast sync which is superior to regular V-Sync.

 

[Rifter]

If you are getting a freesync monitor it makes no sense to get a nvidia card, go for the RX480. Or pony up the extra $150 for a G sync display and then go with a 1070.

 

[Thinker_145]

This is awful advice. Read the OP and what his needs are.



A 4GB card will do perfect for that and will save him a lot of money.

Oh please we know you have a 4GB card and you are happy with it so good for you. That doesn't mean you want to limit others in that way as well. When it comes to awful advise it doesn't get more awful than buying a 4GB card when someone isn't seriously limited by budget.

 

[Thinker_145]

If you are getting a freesync monitor it makes no sense to get a nvidia card, go for the RX480. Or pony up the extra $150 for a G sync display and then go with a 1070.

A Free-Sync monitor doesn't cost anything extra so there is no obligation to buy into a lower performance brand just because your monitor has a feature that comes with it for free. Buying a G-Sync monitor with AMD card would be awful.

 

[Headfoot]

I agree it makes no sense to buy the 4GB 480 when its only a little more to get the 8GB 480 here and he's not limited by budget. At ~$800 total budget i'd get a 1070 and a 144hz monitor without Gsync.

 

[Bacon1]

Oh please we know you have a 4GB card and you are happy with it so good for you. That doesn't mean you want to limit others in that way as well. When it comes to awful advise it doesn't get more awful than buying a 4GB card when someone isn't seriously limited by budget.

Yeah and it plays @ 3440x1440 great. So he can easily handle 1080p. None of the games he is talking about are VRAM intensive.

I listed the 8GB as well and it's still much cheaper than a 1070 and better price/perf. The 1070 will be CPU bound @ 1080 especially with the i5 he has.

It would be a waste of money when he won't get the best use from the 1070.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

He clearly states in his second comment that he can buy the 1070.

He already has a 6500 so getting a 6700k isn't exactly a wise thing for now.

Yes but he wants a monitor + GPU upgrade, not just a new GPU. That locked 6500 is going to start bottlenecking his FPS with a GTX 1070 in some titles.

Honestly I don't have a limit I work have monthly income. But lets say approx 826 dollars or 766euros (21 000 crowns) is kind of a limit.

Okay, then the RX480 fits that budget. Like Thinker was saying just get the 8GB model for the sake of avoiding VRAM limitation if you decide to play some more demanding titles in the future. It goes well with the Freesync display you were looking at already

 

[Thinker_145]

Yes of course no new game is ever going to be released again the OP will forever be playing the same games. The i5 SkyLake is a heap of junk right? Only the i7 master race should buy good GPUs. Man I am so tired of these ridiculous AMD apologist arguments I am done with this thread.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

Yes of course no new game is ever going to be released again the OP will forever be playing the same games. The i5 SkyLake is a heap of junk right? Only the i7 master race should buy good GPUs. Man I am so tired of these ridiculous AMD apologist arguments I am done with this thread.

Bacon is the only one making any case for the 4GB card.... regardless the 1070 is out of his budget now that he stated that his budget is about 766 euros. The combo I had recommended was 811 euros, the RX 480 plus monitor is 697 euros which is within his budget.

 

[Thinker_145]

I agree the 480 8GB is a very good option. I will just maintain that if he can afford it the 1070 is worth letting go of A-Sync.

 

[Headfoot]

I agree the 480 8GB is a very good option. I will just maintain that if he can afford it the 1070 is worth letting go of A-Sync.

I agree. FreeSync is totally awesome, I've used it, but at the higher FPS it starts to matter less. It's hard to notice FS if you can maintain 90+ FPS.

An i5 6500 is still going to be quite fast, 4 cores and the best single threaded architecture available right now. Clock isnt as high as an OC'd 6700k @ 4.5 but 3.6 on the same architecture is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[Bacon1]

Yes of course no new game is ever going to be released again the OP will forever be playing the same games. The i5 SkyLake is a heap of junk right? Only the i7 master race should buy good GPUs. Man I am so tired of these ridiculous AMD apologist arguments I am done with this thread.

You own a i7 for 1080p with a 1070. Why didn't you buy an i5 instead?

The games OP plays most are made for wide availability and low end systems, so there is no need to spend so much more on a system that won't even be running @ 100% because its CPU bound by the game.

I listed both a 4GB and 8GB 480, 8GB is ~16% more expensive and it will provide almost no performance difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjTUtUF6gxg

OP doesn't need to run "max" settings, which means he can save a ton of money and have almost no IQ hit and won't have issues with a 4GB card @ 1080 for the type of games he plays.

A 1060 6GB would be a perfectly fine option for the OP (downside is losing freesync), but a 1070 just doesn't make sense for his use case.

 

[AtenRa]

Alternative , Sapphire Fury at 9200

More than enough for 1080p 144hz , spend the rest for a nice 24/27" 144Hz FreeSync monitor