GPU for Gaming at 144Hz 1080p High Details

[Justforcause]

Hello,

Curretnly I have GTX 960. Intending to buy 144Hz Display in the upcomig month. Games that I play are Witcher 3, Xcom2, Overwatch, WoW, HOTS, and possibly other AAA games that are worth the time and are well optimised. But most my time I spend in WOW, HOTS and Overwatch. I would like to play on high details (ultra is not necessary). My question is what graphics card is required to run on high at 144Hz? GTX 1070?

Thanks, J.

 

[Dribble]

You haven't said what cpu you have - going for very high fps if you are willing to turn down graphics a bit can often end up cpu bound in a lot of games (particularly big multiplayer ones - something most of the reviews which tend to use canned benchmarks don't show).

 

[Justforcause]

Sorry my bad.

CPU Intel Core i5-6500
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VGA nV GIGABYTE GV-N960WF2OC-4GD - Here consider then 1070

 

[happy medium]

turn down the graphic settings to ultra low with your 960 and see if your cpu can push the speed you want your games to run at before you buy a new gpu.

 

[Justforcause]

Hehe, I kind of wanted to buy both, a new display and a new GPU, at the same time. I also wandered whether I should first go for GPU and then Display, or the other way around?

 

[Thinker_145]

Your CPU is fine. Get a 1070, high refresh rate monitor and enjoy.

 

[richaron]

Your CPU is fine. Get a 1070, high refresh rate monitor and enjoy.

A reply like so many others on this forum which is completely overkill.

A RX 480 + high refresh rate Freesync monitor is all the OP needs and saves them hundreds of dollars.

Edit: OP, I deliberately talked about a monitor with variable refresh rate technology because it's something a consumer should know about these days. It will allow you play those rarer games with higher demands at less than full refresh rates whilst still feeling smooth. It does effect your GPU purchasing and it also effects the cost of the monitors. But it is also something most gamers would consider necessary for modern/future monitors.

 

[Thinker_145]

A reply like so many others on this forum which is completely overkill.

A RX 480 + high refresh rate Freesync monitor is all the OP needs and saves them hundreds of dollars.

Overkill? GTX 1070 is not overkill for 1080p144hz. With a free game the 1070 actually offers better pure value for money right now than the RX 480 so what hundreds of dollars he is saving?

He is not getting a G-Sync monitor. Just because someone is getting a free sync monitor doesn't mean they have to settle for inferior pure performance.

 

[richaron]

Overkill? GTX 1070 is not overkill for 1080p144hz. With a free game the 1070 actually offers better pure value for money right now than the RX 480 so what hundreds of dollars he is saving?

He is not getting a G-Sync monitor. Just because someone is getting a free sync monitor doesn't mean they have to settle for inferior pure performance.

A 1070 is completely overkill for the games OP bolded, I'm not going to bother arguing. If OP digs deep enough they can find threads consisting of people disagreeing with your overkill advice.

And I might be way off, but from what I see most gamers consider variable refresh rate monitors necessary. It's just rude and narrow minded to provide OP with advice when they're obviously not aware of the importance of the G/Free-sync decision.

Now there's the debate OP may need more power for the other games mentioned to reach full 144Hz. But OP already said they're not running full settings, and maxing refresh rates means you've wasted money on G/Free-sync and/or a too powerful card. And there can be no debate the card I suggested will play all games mentioned at respectable fps at less than max settings.

Now if OP came in here saying they want to max things out (and generally sounding like you do) then I would give different advice. Because I can see things from different points of view

 

[Headfoot]

He's not going to only play those games, as he plainly said. So if he wants to get even close to 144hz in Witcher 3 he'll need a 1070 or faster. Not even mentioning new games that come out.

 

[richaron]

He's not going to only play those games, as he plainly said. So if he wants to get even close to 144hz in Witcher 3 he'll need a 1070 or faster. Not even mentioning new games that come out.

That's the most demanding game OP listed... But I completely agree and already admitted as much. The 480 can also reach ~100fps in the Witcher 3 with minimal compromises though, which is part of the reason I'm making such a strong point about variable refresh rates.

Obviously OP can make their own decisions, but if the OP can enjoy gaming 99% and save a few $hundred then that's what I'm going to advise.

 

[Justforcause]

wow guys you are giving me really hard time to decide. RX 480 goes for 330e and 1070 for 444e. Its quite a difference but considering that 1070 is faster than 480 then isnt it worth to jsut go for 1070 and be set for the future? Regarding display I am going for Asus MG248Q. Well honestly it would be nice to push a little more settings quality while maintaining high refresh rate. Therefore I wanted to go for 1070 as it would allow me to push a bit harder on current games and for future games I would be fine with medium-high settings. So long story short I really don't know what i want now and am really confused

 

[Bacon1]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137032&cm_re=480_rx-_-14-137-032-_-Product

MSI Gaming X 4GB 480 for $199

You can get 8GB for $240 AR. Personally I'd say the 4GB is much better deal and not worth the 20% price increase, though the Mastercard deal might still be going for $20-25 off.

Cheapest 1070 is $384: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500409&cm_re=1070-_-14-500-409-_-Product

Cheapest Fury is $280: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186&cm_re=Fury-_-14-202-186-_-Product

480 will do a great job @ $200. If he really needs more performance the $280 Fury is best bet.

1070 is 90% more expensive while providing maybe upto 50% better performance at best case but generally ~40%.

Fury is 40% more expensive while providing 15-25% better performance.

He can pair either the 480 or Fury with a freesync monitor ~$250 1080p 144hz freesync monitor and have a great gaming experience while he'd have to pay $380+ for a gsync one.

 

[Justforcause]

Your comparison is great but unfortunatelly I am not from the US and don't plan to oder it from the US coz of warranty claims etc. MSI Gaming X 4GB 480 is for $322 in the store I usually buy and won't be much different in other stores. So your comparions is only valid with US prices :-/ GTX 1070 is for $571. Sucks to be European I guess.

 

[Headfoot]

It pretty much depends on how much you're willing to spend. If your total budget is closer to ~$500-$600 in Euro i'd do 480 8GB + FreeSync monitor. If your total budget is closer to ~ $700-$800 in Euro I'd do 1070 with a 144hz monitor and I would not splurge for Gsync.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

What is the price of the Asus monitor you had been looking at in your country out of curiosity?

That is a Freesync monitor, so I wouldn't discount the RX 480 recommendation. Generally speaking NVidia hardware runs Blizzard games much better than AMD does. Sounds like you're in the same boat I'm in when it comes to game choice and upgrades. You want high refresh rate gaming (which isn't very hard to achieve in Blizzard games without breaking the bank) but it seems you'll still dabble in some fairly demanding single player games like The Witcher 3. How important is the absolute performance in the demanding games to you? Do you spend 3x more time playing your Blizzard titles and maybe only fire up the single player stuff after raids and Overwatch sessions are over?

 

[96Firebird]

At those prices, 1070 would be the better deal... @ 1080p, the 1070 is 45% faster than the 480. Looking at your prices, the 1070 is 35% more expensive. Does the 1070 have the GOW4 promo in your neck of the woods?

 

[Bacon1]

1070 is 45% faster than the 480

That's vs their reference one. Its ~40% on average for ~77% more money. You also have to factor in freesync vs gsync cost since he wants a new monitor as well.

571 - 322 = 250 difference. How did you come up with it only costing 35% more? The 480 is 56% cheaper or 77% more expensive than the 480, dunno where your 35% is coming from.

MSI Gaming X 4GB 480 is for $322 in the store I usually buy and won't be much different in other stores. So your comparions is only valid with US prices :-/ GTX 1070 is for $571

The 480 is much cheaper than the 1070 and will be much better bang/buck and also lets you use freesync on the monitor. Win/Win!

 

[96Firebird]

RX 480 goes for 330e and 1070 for 444e.

This might help you out.

 

[Justforcause]

What is the price of the Asus monitor you had been looking at in your country out of curiosity?

The asus is $367. The website is also in english https://www.alza.cz/EN/ so you are all wlcome to look at the prices they offer. The prices are in Czech crowns and at current exchange rate for dollar just devide it by 25,4.

 

[Justforcause]

At those prices, 1070 would be the better deal... @ 1080p, the 1070 is 45% faster than the 480. Looking at your prices, the 1070 is 35% more expensive. Does the 1070 have the GOW4 promo in your neck of the woods?

Yeah, it actually does have GOW4 as a promo.

 

[zinfamous]

A 1070 is completely overkill for the games OP bolded, I'm not going to bother arguing. If OP digs deep enough they can find threads consisting of people disagreeing with your overkill advice.

And I might be way off, but from what I see most gamers consider variable refresh rate monitors necessary. It's just rude and narrow minded to provide OP with advice when they're obviously not aware of the importance of the G/Free-sync decision.

Now there's the debate OP may need more power for the other games mentioned to reach full 144Hz. But OP already said they're not running full settings, and maxing refresh rates means you've wasted money on G/Free-sync and/or a too powerful card. And there can be no debate the card I suggested will play all games mentioned at respectable fps at less than max settings.

Now if OP came in here saying they want to max things out (and generally sounding like you do) then I would give different advice. Because I can see things from different points of view

he's talking about 144hz. not 60hz. 144hz.

a 1070 is not overkill for those games, even at 1080p, with a 144hz display.

 

[Bacon1]

Yeah, it actually does have GOW4 as a promo.

Which website are you looking at for pricing?

 

[Snarf Snarf]

Yeah, it actually does have GOW4 as a promo.

Do you plan on playing GOW4? If it was a game you were already planning on buying factor that into your savings.

RX 480 goes for 330e and 1070 for 444e.

So 697e or 811e is the bottom line here for total upgrade. You never did tell us your absolute budget limit, or do you not have one? If you don't have one at those prices just get the 1070 and free game. It will give you excellent performance in all your titles and by the time it hits the point where you're going below 60 fps you it will probably be time to upgrade your GPU.

 

[Bacon1]

he's talking about 144hz. not 60hz. 144hz.

a 1070 is not overkill for those games, even at 1080p, with a 144hz display.

WOW is CPU bound @ 1080p on a 1070, it doesn't perform any better than a 980 and only ~20% faster than 480. It gets stuck @ 100 fps on a Core i7-6700K @ 4.5 GHz

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/World...5966/Specials/Legion-Test-Benchmarks-1204205/

Overwatch both can hit 140+ easily, and HOTS I don't remember as being GPU intensive at all.

http://icdn2.digitaltrends.com/image/amd-radeon-rx-480-1080p-hots-720x480-c.png is one I found for HOTS from 480 release.