Gov is monitoring you at your ISP. UPDT:Google ordered to give FBI data on everyone

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rivan

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there aren't enough cops in the world to pay house calls to every moron searching for something questionable

I assumed you meant he was flattering himself by being monitored. I see the monitoring as the real problem, not whether there's enough manpower to do something about it.

Given the right motivation, manpower could be addressed by using drones or other additional monitoring. I could totally see the ugly slide down that slope.
 

rsutoratosu

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Remember those joke, change your wifi ssid to FBI Surveillance Van ? and mess with your neighbors ?
 

lxskllr

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Cory Doctorow said:
Whenever government surveillance is debated, someone inevitably pooh-poohs the subject as cause for alarm: after all, people overshare so much sensitive personal information with services like Facebook that there's hardly anything to be gleaned from state surveillance that isn't already there for the taking on "social media."

I don't question the assertion that people overshare on social networks – that is, people share information in ways that they later come to regret. The consequences of oversharing range widely, and we hear of any or all of losing a job; being outed to your family or co-workers for your sexual orientation; having embarrassing youthful episodes of intoxication and/or ill-considered opinion forever tied to your name in the eyes of potential lovers, friends, and employers; and alienating friends and family who don't approve of some aspect of your life, associations, or hobbies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/may/21/privacy-public-health-surveillance?CMP=twt_gu

A couple answers...

https://www.torproject.org/

https://geti2p.net/
 

akahoovy

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So the plot from Deus Ex is coming true? Gas is about the right price then, eh?

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GTaudiophile

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My eyes were opened when the FBI hacked General Petraeus' Gmail account without a warrant or even evidence of a crime taking place. If they can do that to the director of the CIA, then the rest of us are small potatos.

QFT
 

dud

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Me thinks that the OP is really Mammador using his other AT account.
 

z1ggy

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This is one of those things as Americans we have to accept. The gov't can read all your emails, texts, google searches... basically anything that travels unencrypted over the internet. They have cameras on all the highways, street corners, stores and parking lots.

The only way you can avoid this is by totally living off the grid. And even then you really aren't out of their reach. We have tons of spy satellites and cameras capable of reading your license plate clear as day from 80,000.

They do it all in the name of national security, of course.
 

wirednuts

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Remember those joke, change your wifi ssid to FBI Surveillance Van ? and mess with your neighbors ?

mine is DEA1029e

people DO freak out about it. when i moved into a college town neighborhood it was the best. even after people knew me for months they still thought i was the feds.

when i moved to out to the sticks here, there were probably 8 ap's in my area. after lighting up my ssid for a day, it went down to 5 and i havent seen the other 3 since :D
 

Jeff7

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Im not encouraging anyone to do make any subversive searches just to see what happens. Common sense should tell you not to search for "how to make a pressure cooker bomb". You should already know you are going on a list or might get a visit like I did 6 years ago.

https://www.eff.org.
What if I search for how to make an incendiary anti-personell pressure cooker bomb and get a free observational visit from a federal agent with nothing better to do?
:hmm:


Remember those joke, change your wifi ssid to FBI Surveillance Van ? and mess with your neighbors ?
"Ordinary non-FBI Van's Free WiFi"



Stop it guys!
I might need to immigrate one day :(
Don't worry, they're already aware of that. ;)
 
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lxskllr

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This is one of those things as Americans we have to accept.

It doesn't have to be accepted, only acknowledged. It can be fought legislatively, bypassed altogether, or the tools of oppression can be monkey wrenched. If people want it to change, they need to do something. I'm sure some don't want change. The idea of a big government utopia where everyone is fat and happy never seems to die even though history has shown it never works.

Edit:
clumsy grammar
 

FelixDeCat

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What if I search for how to make an incendiary anti-personell pressure cooker bomb and get a free observational visit from a federal agent with nothing better to do?
:hmm:


"Ordinary non-FBI Van's Free WiFi"

Oooooh I would't do that...


FBI-ATF-raid.jpg


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JEDIYoda

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This is common sense / knowledge. Your subversive ideas and searches are being stored for future reference, which will be used against you in a court of law. Depending on the nature of the content, you could get immediate or deferred attention.

Dont believe me?

I've mentioned before back around 2007 or so I did a search for "how to rob a bank" and visited a few sites (none of which provided useful information other than to garner adsense hits). The NEXT MORNING as I opened the front door to leave for work there was someone sitting in an new, unmarked Ford Crown Vic facing the front door.

photo.php


He was white, in is 40s, clean shaven, wearing a Texas Rangers style hat, white dress shirt, dark tie and sunglasses. He appeared to be looking in all directions except directly at me while taking written notes.

I glanced at him long enough to make a mental note, then headed for the car to leave for work. He did not follow. I have never seen him or that car again.

Your tax dollars at work. :biggrin:
The governemnt has been taken over by aliens!! They are monitoring everything from how often you take a good healthy crapola to how often you sneeze!! Nothing is sacred!!
 

FelixDeCat

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Those are a couple of answers. But I think if your DNS isnt encrypted or you are not using TOR inside a VPN, the text from the unencrypted webpages you visit will still be visible by your ISP.

Of course you also have to trust your VPN provider (freeopenvpn + vpnbook), or set up your own private VPN.
 

FelixDeCat

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The governemnt has been taken over by aliens!! They are monitoring everything from how often you take a good healthy crapola to how often you sneeze!! Nothing is sacred!!

If you are posting it on youtube, you bet your 'ass' they are. And Im flagging it! :twisted:
 

JEDIYoda

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I'm not saying this alone is proof of anything, but as soon as I started going on a bunch of conspiracy theory websites my parents house phone line started making all kinds of weird pops/clicks/echoes and it would randomly ring with static in the background. For extra crazy points, I noticed a bunch of helicopters appeared to start flying over the house as well.
<---- hahhaahahaaaaa priceless!!!
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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People are idiots if they think anything like that's being collected. The amount of processing and storage needed is immense just for really serious international things yet alone all data everywhere all the time.