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Inferno0032

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So I got everything switched out, turn it on, at first startup BIOS screen, tells the processor, memory test, then when it comes to Detecting IDE drives, it just sits there and doesn't fine them. If i only hook up one HDD and one DVD drive, it detects it and says that the boot properties have changed, enter setup. So i do, save and exit, and it restarts doing the same thing. What shall i do?
 

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Sorry for my sloppy writing, its late and im tired.

But anyhow an update. It now detects all of them and gets to the boot phase. Now during the screen where it says boot from CD ect. It says disk boot failure, please insert system disc. What should i do or does this mean i still have my primary boot setting set to the DVD drives instead of the HDD? Will i be able to boot into my windows with the disc? What should i do if i need the disc? Thanks
 

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Messed around with cable order some more, got it right and all is well. This can be deleted/locked. Thanks for looking and your time.
 

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sorry, I was busy with shoveling snow for some elderly people. glad you were able to fix it yourself.
 

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Actually, tonight i started it up, and it is not detecting the slave drive even though it is hooked up. This drive has nearly all of my data on it, the primary is basically only the OS and a few programs. What can i do to fix this? It doesn't detect it at boot or Disk management.
 

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Another update, this is one hell of a rollercoaster. I took the HDD that wouldnt show up out, and notice it has 2 slightly bent but pushed in pins. The pins are now shorter than the others and im not sure if they are getting far enough into the connector to make a connection. Also now when I hook the drives back up, they aren't being detected anymore. Any ideas as to what i might be doing wrong?
 

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Im just so confused as to what allowed it to boot fine from the one drive in different cable configurations, and now suddenly it goes back to not detecting any IDE drives whatsoever.
 

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okay, if you have a fine tip needle nose pliers gently pull out the pins on the drive that is not being detected, you have to be extremely gentle and careful, visually check for any other damage to that drive before you put it back in.

are you now saying neither drive is showing up?
 

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I'm trying to find a small enough needle nose or tweezers. I'll be very careful. And now i plugged in the other drive again and now it sits at the detecting IDE drives place like it was before. I dont understand why it would do that again. Thanks for your help robisbell!
 

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can you get a new ide cable as well?

okay the one with the pins was the data drive correct?
and now even your boot drive is having issue?

did the new case come with a PSU or did you transfer it from the old case?
 

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I used the old PSU, i have been trying it with 2 different IDE cables, and it has worked with both. This is the same problem that prompted me to start the thread, it will sit and suddenly not detect anything, not even the dvd drives. At least it doesn't show up but it still will go to the boot from CD screen where it says disc failure.
 

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Also, although they aren't showing up on the detecting IDE prompt, when i go to the boot screen or BIOS, it shows the system drive and the DVD drives. Is this problem being caused because it is configured for both the HDDs together and not having one is throwing it off? Do you have any Idea how long the pins need to be to contact the IDE cable? I was able to pull them out a little, and would like to mess as little as i need to to get it to work.
 

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No it didn't. I had a case with only one fan, i wanted better cooling and elected for the thanksgiving deal on the antec 900. It didn't come with a PSU. The PSU i have is an antec NeoHE 500W PSU.
 

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okay, so in BIOS everything is good, okay. I'd check to see how the HDD's and the optical drives are jumpered.
the pins need to be the same length as the others approx. you should not have to move them much.
also, on the ide cables you are using is there only 1 pin hole block on them?
 

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Pin hole block, like a filled in spot? I believe there is only 1. And i'm using the same one that worked before so i think the cable is proper.

And i like to frequently update so you can best help me. I plugged in both HDDs, it detects all drives in both places now, and i'm going to try to see if i can get it to boot. I'll update afterwards.
 

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I have tried each as master/slave, but it goes to the last screen before windows boot and says Disk boot failure, please insert system disk. I'll just keep trying.
 

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What settings must i choose to get it to boot from the system disk? It looks right in BIOS and boot menu but it doesn't. Get the disk boot failure error.
 

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I can boot the windows disc, will that allow windows and the computer to select where to boot from?
 

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okay, you do know you can edit your posts, right?

so which drive is on the end of the ide cable and what is it set as?

a good boot order is cd/dvd-HDD-floppy/usb
 

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The 300gig data HDD is on the end, and this drive is a seagate and does not have a jumper in it, and it didn't before when it worked. It then goes to the system one in the "middle" IDE slot, and i'm not sure as to the jumper setting but i can take it out if you need to know what that setting is. BIOS has the 40 gig system HDD as the Primary IDE Master and the 300 gig HDD as Primary IDE Slave. The 2 DVD drives are the Secondary IDE master and slave.

I do know i can edit my posts, i just figured that it would be easier to track the progress in additional posts, so you don't miss updates ect.

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After it asks to boot CD and i let it go where it would normally boot to windows a black screen with this message appearrs.
Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration problem.
Could not read from the selected boot disk. Check boot path and disk hardware.
Please check the Windows documentation about hardware disk configuration and your hardware reference manuals for additional information.

And by the way, the 40 gig system HDD is a WD.
 

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okay, so I am assuming the 40GB and 300Gb are both IDE. the 300GB should have a jumper or may need one, it might be conflicting with the 40GB. what's the model # of them both?
 

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300 gig is seagate ST3300A, 40 gig is WD400BB00JHC0 The 40gig is set to master w/slave on the jumper. Would cable select or slave be best for the seagate?

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Just a quick question, if he HDD is detected, the pins must be making contact right? They aren
t still the culprit are they?
 

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I'd put them both on CS and have the 40Gb on the end connector, as for the 300GB you'll need to put a jumper on it. Seagate is saying that there's no drive in their database with that model number. I various ways to search on Seagate for that drive, where did you buy it from?