Got caught with a torrent by my University ISP

[Mark R]

Best thing is to own-up as soon as possible - if you lie, and they find out, then expect to get kicked out. You are likely to get a lighter punishment if you help them and explain what you were doing, etc.

Before you say anything, you should check thoroughly the agreement you signed when they provided the service - so you know exactly which terms of the T&C you broke.

If you help them, promise not to do it again, and have a generally good attendance and discipline record then I would expect them to let you stay, but they may impose conditions on your attendance.

For example, when I went to Uni, a severe breach of computer regulations could lead to a total ban on using any University managed/owned computer facilities (e.g. public workstations, department labs, e-mail, network, ISP service, etc.) If they do choose to impose such a condition, I hope for your sake you're not doing a computing or engineering course; it could get difficult without access to computer facilities.

 

[Xionide]

What game was it?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: 2cpuminimum

Network neighborhood is all just the local intranet, other people in the school. That doesn't even use their bandwidth, and it is not likely to be seen by the jerks that would sue the university to get to you. What the university cannot tolerate is sharing beyond the intranet, that becomes traceable to the outside world and thus the riaa will pwn the university unless the university pwnz you. Sharing files on the local network is fine. Sharing files to the internet will get your campus computing priveledges revoked, possibly permanently.

So local intranet is bandwidth that is unlimited?

There is always a limit....however; inside you usually don't have to pay for the usage as it's all in-house. Problem is if your net becomes saturated, there will be calls in to the 'help desk' bishing, moaning and complaining why can't I do my work...responding 'well kids need their pr0n, video games, mp3's!' ain't going to fly.

 

[Cooler]

Just say your left your door open and lots people use your computer and that you found that someone dled without you knowing.

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Eli
I like the idea of buying the game and claiming it was a backup copy.

Yes, but they won't buy it unless they are REALLY dumb.

right, they might come back with a list of games and movies, then he'll have to buy all those...yep, i like that ida.

 

[alm4rr]

Where's the update?

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Paktu
I know other people that have gotten caught and I know the first offense is always a slap on the wrist. But I'd prefer to have another "first offense" if I get caught again. It's not worth spending $50 on a "backup" copy to me, though.

You're a moron. Why would you risk getting kicked out of college (which they should do if you are stupid enough to try this again) for a video game?

I really don't care if people pirate games or download free music. But you just aren't a very bright person. I'm surprised you got into the university to begin with

exactly, $50 is not good enough to stay in college? the op is a big moron. When I got caught for doing some bad stuff, even thou it was my first offense, using someone's account was a big no no. I was a moron then for doing that and being careless. I was quick to offer a deal with the dean of student affairs to let me stay in college and punish me with no access to campus network for life.

 

[skyking]

OP Last Visited On: 06/12/2005 01:24 AM

Ok we know you are lurking out there. Since this thread got drug up off the bottom, how about an update??

 

[alkemyst]

Making claims like that are like how people claim when caught in a hit and run, someone must have 'borrowed' their car.

It won't fly if you have done enough damage/caused enough to make another a financially viable target due to your actions.

Most of the time, you can pull this type of excuse as there is nothing really *harmed* and you get off with a warning, but should you get caught again things usually go differently.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

You shoulda stuck to downloading pr0n!

- M4H

 

[Jakebrake]

Rule #1 - Don't lie to cover something up. It says a lot about your character and college is about character development also. When you lie, the fact that you lied becomes the big issue and not the original offense (provided you didn't whack someone).

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Lol I'm glad that the hall director isn't tech savvy. Otherwise he could be viewing this forum as we speak ROFLMFAO!! That would make this entire thread kind of useless now wouldn't it?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Just had an idea. Maybe hes off at college getting his a$$ pwn as we speak. Lol that sounds dirty doesn't it?

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: Paulson
Well don't knock Minnesota... I just go to a technical college in Hutchinson and we're part of the MNSCU network... my college only has a 35mb pipe that goes to st. cloud and from there it goes to the cities...

35 millibit?

 

[SirBrass]

he probably means Megabit. Don't be hard on him, he's only 9 orders of magnitude off .

 

[jammur21]

--Shady--
Buy the game, keep receipt.
Scratch a fine straight line across the disc, but not across the middle.
Tell the school you were backing up this scratched disc that doesn't work, store doesn't take refunds on games.

--Real Shady--
Go back to store, get exchange due to scratched disc.

--Real Slim Shady--
1.Ebay the exchanged game
2. ...
3.Profit!

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: loki8481
what about... telling the truth :shocked:

fess up, apologize, and stop fvcking stealing.

:thumbsup:

 

[Twista]

buy the game in question and claim I wanted a backup copy

 

[walla]

Originally posted by: Paktu
I have to meet with my residence hall director (who is not technologically savvy) some time in the near future.

Tell him the files were conjured on to your computer by means of witchcraft.

 

[CQuinn]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: rsd
Next time just download porn. Sadly that is the safest thing (in terms of copyright infringement) to download nowadays.

wonder why the porn industry doesnt worry that much about illegal downloads of pron

This is a bit OT, but...

The porn industry does not have a spokesgroup like the MPAA or RIAA that attempts
to represent the whole industry. (Hmmm, the PIAA? the TnAA?)

The porn industry is not afraid to embrace new technology and the Intranet in order
to maintain a technical lead over P2P sharing.

The also know that the majority of people that might buy porn are still not as
technologically hooked up as the average P2P user. For every 1 person using
bittorrent, there are probably 2 - 5 people who find it more convienient to just subscribe
to thier favorite web site.

They apply a business model that favors accessability. Even if a certain percentage
of people are not paying them for it, they gain more people who are willing to buy
some in the long run.

 

[Otaking]

Originally posted by: Spike
Holy resurrected-thread Batman!

Originally posted by: alm4rr
Where's the update?

Um.. yes, the thread's almost 2 months ago! Maybe he's in jail now because he was confused by so many suggestions

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: chrisms
Well it seems to me as if they already have enough evidence. Formatting your hard drive and trying to cover it up will be pointless. Blaiming a roomate isn't good, they might start asking the roomates and then you get caught up in a web of lies. I would just fess up, a cease and desist is basically a warning so as long as your University isn't too strict they should just tell you to never do it again.

wipe your HDD/free space, change your mac address, change the computer name, change your router's mac address?

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: Paktu
I am a student at the University of Minnesota and get my internet service from them. I have been using Azureus to download various torrent files over the past few months, along with Peerguardian. The other night I attempted to download a recently released game, but did not complete the download. It appears that the University received a cease and desist notice last night, so they cut off my internet access. I have to meet with my residence hall director (who is not technologically savvy) some time in the near future.

I know how I'm going to be lectured in this thread about how what I'm doing is illegal, wrong, unethical, kills kittens in soviet russia, etc. But does anyone have suggestions about what to tell my hall director that will get me out of this? Should I buy the game in question and claim I wanted a backup copy? Format my HD? Claim one of my roomates went on my computer? I'd like some ideas here.

1)Chances are all the know is that YOU where using Bit-Torrnet. To them they know that Bit Torrent is often assoicated with illegal activites such as downloading mp3s, games and movies. If they don't know what you where downloading they have no case. More than likely all they can really do is bitch at you.

2)Reguardless of what happens or if you get off with a slap on the wrist. It IS their network.

3)Talk around with other nerds that goto campus, more than likey you're not the only person who has gotten caought.

4)Use WASTE.

I am just quoting what I said because most of things I am hearing are DUMB STUPID AND REALLY DUMB.

They more than likely ONLY you where using Bit Torrent, they probley don't know what you where downloading specifically.

Don't act like a cocky bastage and don't pull a "I am a dumbass".

Just be safe and use WASTE.

 

[austin316]

Is he in jail?

 

[jdini76]

Tell them you were doing research for a paper you are writing for one of your classes. And the fact that they cut your internet off is hindering your ability to do your work!