Is there a Boss higher? Is so appeal to them and/or talk to HR and ask for a FULL written reason to why and how this happened.
And don't quit as others said. let them tell you to leave. Will protect your rights more.
And don't quit as others said. let them tell you to leave. Will protect your rights more.
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: MisterServer
So I got fired from an EE position and I feel pretty low right now
Basically received a fairly substantial raise earlier this month and manager called me in at the end of the day to state that I wasn't showing enough initiative to justify the salary increase. They gave me an option to either officially state I was "terminated" or to just voluntarily resign and give a two weeks notice. I'm thinking of taking the latter to save face. Sigh I guess this is another one of life's lessons that will motivate me to work harder on the next job. Time to brush up the old resume, life goes on..
Let them terminate you. By "volunteering" to resign, you lose unemployment benefits and any ability to sue them for wrongful firing.
Think about this. Shouldn't he have given you a review before your raise? Shouldn't your raise have reflected your performance? It sounds like this boss screwed up and you're paying for it.
You will lost it either way depending on what state you live in. In many parts of the South this is the case, or if you work in a right-to-work state like FL you are screwed either way. You can be fired at anytime for any reason and you have no recourse.
Not true, even in Right-to-Work states they can't fire you for any reason. They can't fire you for using blue ink on your post it notes, or Because you wore a blue tie instead of a red one. There are still laws and regulations protecting you.
Ok perhaps I made too broad of a generalization, but you can be let go for any performance based reason on a whim, even if you feel it's unjustified and you won't get unemployment. This happened to a friend of mine, his boss had it in for him and basically railroaded him. He applied for unemployment, was getting checks and when the Dept of Labor or whoever completed their investigation, they took all the money back that he had received. So OP just be aware you might get screwed out of unemployment.
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: MisterServer
So I got fired from an EE position and I feel pretty low right now
Basically received a fairly substantial raise earlier this month and manager called me in at the end of the day to state that I wasn't showing enough initiative to justify the salary increase. They gave me an option to either officially state I was "terminated" or to just voluntarily resign and give a two weeks notice. I'm thinking of taking the latter to save face. Sigh I guess this is another one of life's lessons that will motivate me to work harder on the next job. Time to brush up the old resume, life goes on..
Let them terminate you. By "volunteering" to resign, you lose unemployment benefits and any ability to sue them for wrongful firing.
Think about this. Shouldn't he have given you a review before your raise? Shouldn't your raise have reflected your performance? It sounds like this boss screwed up and you're paying for it.
You will lost it either way depending on what state you live in. In many parts of the South this is the case, or if you work in a right-to-work state like FL you are screwed either way. You can be fired at anytime for any reason and you have no recourse.
Not true, even in Right-to-Work states they can't fire you for any reason. They can't fire you for using blue ink on your post it notes, or Because you wore a blue tie instead of a red one. There are still laws and regulations protecting you.
Ok perhaps I made too broad of a generalization, but you can be let go for any performance based reason on a whim, even if you feel it's unjustified and you won't get unemployment. This happened to a friend of mine, his boss had it in for him and basically railroaded him. He applied for unemployment, was getting checks and when the Dept of Labor or whoever completed their investigation, they took all the money back that he had received. So OP just be aware you might get screwed out of unemployment.
And that is standard. The majority of unemployment claims get denied. You have to appeal and as long as you don't sound like a idiot you will probable get your claim to go through.
waggy
No Lifer
- Dec 14, 2000
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either the company is run by a bunch of monkey's (like that commercial on TV!) or the OP is not telling us everything.
IF he went from getting the pay raise and promotion a short time ago to being fired he did more then forget to write up a evulation chart. Usually you are given a short time frame to get intot he job. minor mistakes are ignored for about 6 months.
not to mention they would not fire for what he is claiming. they would talk to him and write him up etc.
my guess is the OP is leaving something major out.
IF he went from getting the pay raise and promotion a short time ago to being fired he did more then forget to write up a evulation chart. Usually you are given a short time frame to get intot he job. minor mistakes are ignored for about 6 months.
not to mention they would not fire for what he is claiming. they would talk to him and write him up etc.
my guess is the OP is leaving something major out.
everyone always says they'll talk to a lawyer but no one ever does. If you coudl get a free half hour consultation I'd go for it...In MA they have to give you at least 2 written warnings before firing you. They can't just say 'hey you didn't write out a 'what will I do this summer' paper or whatever you had to do, and fire you'.
Something doesn't add up. OP hasn't told us how/if he was screwing the pooch or what. OK, maybe you weren't showing a ton of initiative, but what else that hasn't been said precipitated this firing? 
Edit: btw ... that sucks OP, and I don't mean to jump on you, it just doesn't make too much sense. Good luck.
Edit: btw ... that sucks OP, and I don't mean to jump on you, it just doesn't make too much sense. Good luck.
Phoenix86
Lifer
- May 21, 2003
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Sorry, but it sounds like they wanted to get rid of you. A management tactic to fire someone is to promote them to a position they can't do, then let them go for performance reasons. They gave you a raise indicating they were happy with your performance, then a couple of weeks later your canned. Doesn't add up.
Good luck looking for a new job.
Good luck looking for a new job.
You probably did the same thing as me. Usually after I get a raise, I start slacking off and taking easy. I thought, meh I'm not going to fired because they just gave me a raise. I never did get fired like you though . Howeve after about a month I start being productive again.
. Howeve after about a month I start being productive again.Don't resign, have them terminate you. This is not about saving face, it's about getting your unemployment benefits. If you resign chances are you won't have a leg to stand on if you file for unemployment. If they terminate you and challenge your claim you can at least fight it and chances are good from what you've said so far that they will have to pay. Also, document everything that has been said to you reagrding your raise, your review and the subsequent meeting regarding not meeting expectations. Write it all down in a journal or report. From what you've said up to this point, they are being arbitrary in letting you go and there doesn't seem to be any justifiable reason for denying unemployment benefits.
Edit: If you don't care about receiving unemployment, then just resign and move on.
Edit: If you don't care about receiving unemployment, then just resign and move on.
Originally posted by: ahurtt
In the coming year, I intend to show my dedication to fvcking you as you fvcked me. I will seduce and fvck your wife and I will get your children hooked on crack cocaine. I will ensure that you have to look over your shoulder every moment of every day, constantly watching your back. And when you are busy watching your own back, that's when I will fvck your family and everyone you love. I hope you don't come home one day to find your house on fire with your dog trapped inside. I am going to unleash a $hitstorm of unequalled malevolence on everything you love and hold dear in your life. This is my commitment to you. I thank you for giving me this chance to prove my dedication in this matter. Oh, and if you haven't guessed. . .I QUIT, BITCH!
Now just move to Mexico and lay low for a while and let him squirm and sweat
Winnar!!!! ROFL!
Sound advice here....
To everyone that replied, thanks for the encouragement and criticism.. I will take both into consideration. In regards to why some posters believe I am ommitting something, I am just as surprised at what has happened. The negative response I received last Friday was the first I had heard of my poor performance. Personally I thought I was doing a great job working hard to earn the raise but apparently management didn't share the same thought.. oh well
Getting fired and being forced to resign is the same thing. They are just giving you an opportunity to leave on good terms with 2 weeks notice. I would check with the unemployment office to make sure it doesn't make a difference for unemployment benefits.
WTF is that supposed to mean? If anything, the gen y generation are the slackers. I see it all the time. These kids don't have any manners and half of them don't even know how to spell or write properly because they are so used to communicating on the computer. They are good with computers though because they were basically born using them.
Message to OP. By all means, opt for the resignation. You don't want that firing on your employment record. It's much easier to find another job if you were let go or resigned from your former job. Also, see if you can get some kind of recommendation in the "resignation" deal from your boss.
If you resign you lose everything (unemployment, cobra, benefits, possible stock, etc)
don't sign jack. Nothing.
They're trying to force you to resign so they don't have to pay for any of those.
don't sign jack. Nothing.
They're trying to force you to resign so they don't have to pay for any of those.
DainBramaged
Lifer
- Jun 19, 2003
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Hmmm..
Congrats on the promotion!
One week you hear a bit about poor performance, then next you are fired? No write ups, no constrcutive criticism.. Just sh!t canned?
Doesn't make sense at all.
How big was the promotion $$ wise?
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