Got canned today

[GT1999]

Unless if you screwed your manager's wife, daughter, or some sort of family, you did NOT deserve this. How big of a company is it? I'm guessing medium sized to small, because there's normally more processes to this (from my experience) in larger organizations with HR.

Take the firing and stick it to them. If they want to play, show them what you've got. Know any lawyers?

 

[gigapet]

your boss sounds like ar eall jerkoff

 

[MisterJackson]

"So what would you say you DO here at Innitech."

"Well Bill, I don't DO much of anything"

 

[archiloco]

bringing lawers to the equation will just screw you on later on........(when you apply for your next job) they check your previous work experiences and they tell your future employer that he sued them after being fired, they will most likely not hire you cuz of liability. also if you do get a lawyer involved and you do win, how do you think your co-workers and management will treat you?? it's a loose loose situation.


lawyers = the suck

 

[Rudee]

Friend of mine just signed a mortgage on a new house Monday last week. On Friday his IT company he's been working for for over 10 years laid him off. He's not a happy camper.

 

[Leper Messiah]

OP, you're not telling us all of the story apparently. There should be no way you'd go from a raise to being fired in a month unless the company was like going bankrupt or something.

 

[GT1999]

Originally posted by: archiloco
bringing lawers to the equation will just screw you on later on........if they check your previous work experiences and they tell you that he sued you after being fired, they will most likely not hire you cuz of liability. also if you do get a lawyer involved and you do win, how do you think your co-workers will treat you?? it's a loose loose situation.


lawyers = the suck

This is true, but if you do win it could potentially pay off. It wouldn't hurt to consult with a laywer (possibly free/minimal cost if you know someone), but arch does have a point.

If you don't have any real friendships if you started there soon, and you get another full-time job that you like in your field, you could always wait to do it then.

 

[codeyf]

In WA, law says all prev employers can do is verify employment dates and position. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[MisterServer]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
OP, you're not telling us all of the story apparently. There should be no way you'd go from a raise to being fired in a month unless the company was like going bankrupt or something.

Timeframe of events:
Late December (receive verbal agreement of salary increase)
Second week of January (receive written agreement of salary increase)
Last Friday (told in meeting by manager of unmet expectations)
Monday (told in meeting by manager that I am terminated/forced to resign)

edit: company not going bankrupt

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: MisterServer

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
OP, you're not telling us all of the story apparently. There should be no way you'd go from a raise to being fired in a month unless the company was like going bankrupt or something.

Timeframe of events:
Late December (receive verbal agreement of salary increase)
Second week of January (receive written agreement of salary increase)
Last Friday (told in meeting by manager of unmet expectations)
Monday (told in meeting by manager that I am terminated/forced to resign)

edit: company not going bankrupt

how bad did you mess up? did you like not do a single thing in that one month period? That seems really hasty...

 

[MisterServer]

Originally posted by: codeyf
In WA, law says all prev employers can do is verify employment dates and position. Nothing more, nothing less.

can anybody tell me of CA law in regards to this issue or point me to an official state labor law site

 

[ATLien247]

Originally posted by: MisterServer

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
OP, you're not telling us all of the story apparently. There should be no way you'd go from a raise to being fired in a month unless the company was like going bankrupt or something.

Timeframe of events:
Late December (receive verbal agreement of salary increase)
Second week of January (receive written agreement of salary increase)
Last Friday (told in meeting by manager of unmet expectations)
Monday (told in meeting by manager that I am terminated/forced to resign)

edit: company not going bankrupt

Were you aware of these expectations?

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: MisterServer
So I got fired from an EE position and I feel pretty low right now

Basically received a fairly substantial raise earlier this month and manager called me in at the end of the day to state that I wasn't showing enough initiative to justify the salary increase. They gave me an option to either officially state I was "terminated" or to just voluntarily resign and give a two weeks notice. I'm thinking of taking the latter to save face. Sigh I guess this is another one of life's lessons that will motivate me to work harder on the next job. Time to brush up the old resume, life goes on..

Let them terminate you. By "volunteering" to resign, you lose unemployment benefits and any ability to sue them for wrongful firing.

Think about this. Shouldn't he have given you a review before your raise? Shouldn't your raise have reflected your performance? It sounds like this boss screwed up and you're paying for it.

You will lost it either way depending on what state you live in. In many parts of the South this is the case, or if you work in a right-to-work state like FL you are screwed either way. You can be fired at anytime for any reason and you have no recourse.

 

[MisterServer]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: MisterServer

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
OP, you're not telling us all of the story apparently. There should be no way you'd go from a raise to being fired in a month unless the company was like going bankrupt or something.

Timeframe of events:
Late December (receive verbal agreement of salary increase)
Second week of January (receive written agreement of salary increase)
Last Friday (told in meeting by manager of unmet expectations)
Monday (told in meeting by manager that I am terminated/forced to resign)

edit: company not going bankrupt

how bad did you mess up? did you like not do a single thing in that one month period? That seems really hasty...

The message they conveyed to me was that I should have responded to the written review (forgot to mention that this review was also included with the written salary increase agreement in January) with a plan of action for myself regarding goals/projects in the coming year. This was NOT specified in the agreement and apparently shows I lack initiative...

 

[GT1999]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: MisterServer
So I got fired from an EE position and I feel pretty low right now

Basically received a fairly substantial raise earlier this month and manager called me in at the end of the day to state that I wasn't showing enough initiative to justify the salary increase. They gave me an option to either officially state I was "terminated" or to just voluntarily resign and give a two weeks notice. I'm thinking of taking the latter to save face. Sigh I guess this is another one of life's lessons that will motivate me to work harder on the next job. Time to brush up the old resume, life goes on..

Let them terminate you. By "volunteering" to resign, you lose unemployment benefits and any ability to sue them for wrongful firing.

Think about this. Shouldn't he have given you a review before your raise? Shouldn't your raise have reflected your performance? It sounds like this boss screwed up and you're paying for it.

You will lost it either way depending on what state you live in. In many parts of the South this is the case, or if you work in a right-to-work state like FL you are screwed either way. You can be fired at anytime for any reason and you have no recourse.

... so wrong. I'd be tempted to pull out a paintball gun or the good old fashioned eggs if that were the case.

 

[EKKC]

no serverance?

 

[ahurtt]

So you got a raise. . .assumedly for good performance. . .and then suddenly your performance isn't up to snuff? Did you start doing some major slacking after you got the raise or something figuring you wouldn't be getting another one for a long time? I don't get it. . .Why didn't they just bust you back down to your old salary again or your old position since you were obviously doing that well enough to have earned a raise. Doesn't make sense at all. . .

 

[Cutterhead]

Do "unmet expectactions" include "extreme flatulance?"

Cause that would go a ways in clearing up some missing details here.

 

[Eddieo]

Originally posted by: MisterServer

Originally posted by: codeyf
In WA, law says all prev employers can do is verify employment dates and position. Nothing more, nothing less.

can anybody tell me of CA law in regards to this issue or point me to an official state labor law site

Regardless of the laws in your state, your company will most likely just tell others the time you worked there. If they tell other companys you were terminated and a reason, you could sue them for libel if you feel it is incorrect. Like everyone is saying, get fired and get the unemployment. They are cowards to ask you to resign.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: MisterServer

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: MisterServer

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
OP, you're not telling us all of the story apparently. There should be no way you'd go from a raise to being fired in a month unless the company was like going bankrupt or something.

Timeframe of events:
Late December (receive verbal agreement of salary increase)
Second week of January (receive written agreement of salary increase)
Last Friday (told in meeting by manager of unmet expectations)
Monday (told in meeting by manager that I am terminated/forced to resign)

edit: company not going bankrupt

how bad did you mess up? did you like not do a single thing in that one month period? That seems really hasty...

The message they conveyed to me was that I should have responded to the written review (forgot to mention that this review was also included with the written salary increase agreement in January) with a plan of action for myself regarding goals/projects in the coming year. This was NOT specified in the agreement and apparently shows I lack initiative...

seriously then I'd consider some kind of case for wrongful termination. IMO they can't fire you for showing a lack of initative.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: archiloco
bringing lawers to the equation will just screw you on later on........(when you apply for your next job) they check your previous work experiences and they tell your future employer that he sued them after being fired, they will most likely not hire you cuz of liability. also if you do get a lawyer involved and you do win, how do you think your co-workers and management will treat you?? it's a loose loose situation.


lawyers = the suck

If I got a lawyer involved in such a thing and won my job back, I'd still quit afterward anyway. I would never want to go back to work at a place where I had to do something like sue them for wrongful termination. If I won the case, it would just be to make them pay for what they did and show them some OWNAGE as I walked out the door.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: MisterServer
So I got fired from an EE position and I feel pretty low right now

Basically received a fairly substantial raise earlier this month and manager called me in at the end of the day to state that I wasn't showing enough initiative to justify the salary increase. They gave me an option to either officially state I was "terminated" or to just voluntarily resign and give a two weeks notice. I'm thinking of taking the latter to save face. Sigh I guess this is another one of life's lessons that will motivate me to work harder on the next job. Time to brush up the old resume, life goes on..

Let them terminate you. By "volunteering" to resign, you lose unemployment benefits and any ability to sue them for wrongful firing.

Think about this. Shouldn't he have given you a review before your raise? Shouldn't your raise have reflected your performance? It sounds like this boss screwed up and you're paying for it.

You will lost it either way depending on what state you live in. In many parts of the South this is the case, or if you work in a right-to-work state like FL you are screwed either way. You can be fired at anytime for any reason and you have no recourse.

Not true, even in Right-to-Work states they can't fire you for any reason. They can't fire you for using blue ink on your post it notes, or Because you wore a blue tie instead of a red one. There are still laws and regulations protecting you.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Wow, your management = teh stupid.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: MisterServer

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: MisterServer

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
OP, you're not telling us all of the story apparently. There should be no way you'd go from a raise to being fired in a month unless the company was like going bankrupt or something.

Timeframe of events:
Late December (receive verbal agreement of salary increase)
Second week of January (receive written agreement of salary increase)
Last Friday (told in meeting by manager of unmet expectations)
Monday (told in meeting by manager that I am terminated/forced to resign)

edit: company not going bankrupt

how bad did you mess up? did you like not do a single thing in that one month period? That seems really hasty...

The message they conveyed to me was that I should have responded to the written review (forgot to mention that this review was also included with the written salary increase agreement in January) with a plan of action for myself regarding goals/projects in the coming year. This was NOT specified in the agreement and apparently shows I lack initiative...

You should beg for one more chance and beg him to at least let you write up an action plan now that you understand what is expected and ask him to at least take a look at it before firing you. Tell him that you are young and new but with a little guidance and communication about exactly what he expects, you're sure you can meet or exceed whatever expectations he might set. If you can finally get him to agree write something like this:

In the coming year, I intend to show my dedication to fvcking you as you fvcked me. I will seduce and fvck your wife and I will get your children hooked on crack cocaine. I will ensure that you have to look over your shoulder every moment of every day, constantly watching your back. And when you are busy watching your own back, that's when I will fvck your family and everyone you love. I hope you don't come home one day to find your house on fire with your dog trapped inside. I am going to unleash a $hitstorm of unequalled malevolence on everything you love and hold dear in your life. This is my commitment to you. I thank you for giving me this chance to prove my dedication in this matter. Oh, and if you haven't guessed. . .I QUIT, BITCH!


Now just move to Mexico and lay low for a while and let him squirm and sweat

 

[Slickone]

Burn the place down. pwned