Got burned/jacked/disrespected....

[fleabag]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
I hate people like that. One person I fixed a computer for decided to get all uppity about paying me 100 for the work I did for her. She was a friend of my brother-in-laws. The computer would not boot at all for almost 3 months, and had to remove tons of spyware when I did get it started. We had agreed on $100 before I started.

I drove there, and had made it completely usable and faster than it has ever been, but she said because I fixed it so quickly, she couldn't justify paying me so much. In the end she agreed to pay me $25 dollars (she wanted to give me $15.)

I spent about 30 minutes there -- I was so pissed off, I told her to keep her money, and to NEVER ask me to fix her computer again. Needless to say, a few months later, she needed help again, and offered to pay me what I wanted, but I told her to fuck off. lol (Felt bad for my bro-in-law though, he really wanted me to help.)

EDIT: Nuke the shit. Fuck them.

Should have kept the computer until she paid up. If you ran an automotive shop, had the client agree to the price and then when you finished, they said they only wanted to pay $100 and not $1000, you'd say, "too bad", you don't get it back until you pay up.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: bob4432
did some computer assitance for somebody, in result got burned/jacked/disprespected. lots of time on my part. now that it is done, total disrespect and not even a thank you. still have machine in my possession, person is a real piece of shit and so self serving it makes me sick. lots of lip service but when time comes to give a little respect or help out i get disrespected hard.

boot & nuke is in the rom.....do i start it?

let me clear this up - no data is on the setup - just the setup was intricate and took quite some time because of many different aspects of the deployment and how the setup will be used. they can d/l the software again and all the keys they can have, i would just be getting rid of the work i am being fucked for, basically giving them back a machine w/ an empty hdd and they would have to have somebody else re-set it up - again, no data has been input into the system yet, just a intricate setup.

How were you "burned/jacked/disrespected?" Did they mention payment initially and then refuse to pay once the job was done? Did they piss in the corner of your living room when they dropped off the machine? Did they put a cigarette out on your forehead? Punch you in the gut? Or are you just angry because someone didn't bow to your 1337 computer skillz? You still haven't mentioned whether or not this person/company actually refused to pay you or if they're just giving you a hard time.

 

[lxskllr]

Now that's easy to understand. I'd keep all the config data, and give them their stuff back. I'd also give them 24hrs notice that you'll be removing their website from your server. Back it up, and delete it after 24 hours is up. If they want it back, they can pay you for it.

 

[sixone]

Give them exactly what they paid for, and nothing that they didn't.

Might be a good idea to ask them to fax/email you a list of exactly what they're expecting to receive, and have a third-party witness exactly what you're returning and when.

 

[olds]

Tell them you never had their box and don't know what they are talking about. Then ask them what they are going to do about it.

 

[DaTT]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Tell them you never had their box and don't know what they are talking about. Then ask them what they are going to do about it.

...after you laugh of course.

 

[BoomerD]

Now that you've updated with a bit more information, I can understand your frustration.

I'd give them everything that they paid for...nothing more. If that meant wiping the drive(s) and putting them back in the original box(es) then giving them back all the hardware and uninstalled software, so be it.

I'd also immediately pull their site from your server...backed up of course so they could have it back if they pay. I would NOT give them 24 hours notice...I'd do it first, then notify them that it had been taken down for lack of payment.

Do you have ANY of this in writing? If not, you may never collect a dime from them, but by dammed, they certainly wouldn't make a dime on my free labor either.

Just be sure to give them everything they paid for...software and keys, hardware and drivers, all cables & accessories, etc. Do NOT do anything that could be considered as damaging their property in any way....even though it could be done without actually causing physical damage...and would merely be a PITA for them to figure out later.

 

[EMPshockwave82]

Tell them they have two options.

1. Pay you for the setup service you have performed
2. Pay someone else for the setup service you have performed after you wipe their machine

From the sound of it you still have the equipment so this shouldn't be too hard for them to understand.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Now that you've updated with a bit more information, I can understand your frustration.

I'd give them everything that they paid for...nothing more. If that meant wiping the drive(s) and putting them back in the original box(es) then giving them back all the hardware and uninstalled software, so be it.

I'd also immediately pull their site from your server...backed up of course so they could have it back if they pay. I would NOT give them 24 hours notice...I'd do it first, then notify them that it had been taken down for lack of payment.

Do you have ANY of this in writing? If not, you may never collect a dime from them, but by dammed, they certainly wouldn't make a dime on my free labor either.

Just be sure to give them everything they paid for...software and keys, hardware and drivers, all cables & accessories, etc. Do NOT do anything that could be considered as damaging their property in any way....even though it could be done without actually causing physical damage...and would merely be a PITA for them to figure out later.

emails and a handshake...not sure if that counts

 

[BoomerD]

While a handshake SHOULD be enough to stand up in court...it rarely is. If it were, we wouldn't need lawyers...

Emails MIGHT help...but are easily spoofed, so even that'd probably be questioned.

 

[mugs]

Where is the server physically located? If it's on their property, don't mess with it. If it's in your possession, nuke it.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Now that you've updated with a bit more information, I can understand your frustration.

I'd give them everything that they paid for...nothing more. If that meant wiping the drive(s) and putting them back in the original box(es) then giving them back all the hardware and uninstalled software, so be it.

I'd also immediately pull their site from your server...backed up of course so they could have it back if they pay. I would NOT give them 24 hours notice...I'd do it first, then notify them that it had been taken down for lack of payment.

Do you have ANY of this in writing? If not, you may never collect a dime from them, but by dammed, they certainly wouldn't make a dime on my free labor either.

Just be sure to give them everything they paid for...software and keys, hardware and drivers, all cables & accessories, etc. Do NOT do anything that could be considered as damaging their property in any way....even though it could be done without actually causing physical damage...and would merely be a PITA for them to figure out later.

i forgot to add - i own all their domain names too. i tried and tried to get them to buy them, i explained how to do it through godaddy but they didn't but wanted a site up, so since they wanted a site, i got them to help them out. i have never "gave" the site/s names to them. anybody know if i am obligate by law to give them that? if they don't have their domain name/s, they will have to re-brand.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: mugs
Where is the server physically located? If it's on their property, don't mess with it. If it's in your possession, nuke it.

it is in my home office

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Now that you've updated with a bit more information, I can understand your frustration.

I'd give them everything that they paid for...nothing more. If that meant wiping the drive(s) and putting them back in the original box(es) then giving them back all the hardware and uninstalled software, so be it.

I'd also immediately pull their site from your server...backed up of course so they could have it back if they pay. I would NOT give them 24 hours notice...I'd do it first, then notify them that it had been taken down for lack of payment.

Do you have ANY of this in writing? If not, you may never collect a dime from them, but by dammed, they certainly wouldn't make a dime on my free labor either.

Just be sure to give them everything they paid for...software and keys, hardware and drivers, all cables & accessories, etc. Do NOT do anything that could be considered as damaging their property in any way....even though it could be done without actually causing physical damage...and would merely be a PITA for them to figure out later.

i forgot to add - i own all their domain names too. i tried and tried to get them to buy them, i explained how to do it through godaddy but they didn't but wanted a site up, so since they wanted a site, i got them to help them out. i have never "gave" the site/s names to them. anybody know if i am obligate by law to give them that? if they don't have their domain name/s, they will have to re-brand.

LOL
Are you hosting them too?

 

[skyking]

did they ever pay you or promise to pay? wow. turn them off to get their attention. give them a reasonable price for the server work, the domain, a fixed price to move to other hosting ,and 30 days to get a host. And never do business with them again.

 

[thescreensavers]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Now that you've updated with a bit more information, I can understand your frustration.

I'd give them everything that they paid for...nothing more. If that meant wiping the drive(s) and putting them back in the original box(es) then giving them back all the hardware and uninstalled software, so be it.

I'd also immediately pull their site from your server...backed up of course so they could have it back if they pay. I would NOT give them 24 hours notice...I'd do it first, then notify them that it had been taken down for lack of payment.

Do you have ANY of this in writing? If not, you may never collect a dime from them, but by dammed, they certainly wouldn't make a dime on my free labor either.

Just be sure to give them everything they paid for...software and keys, hardware and drivers, all cables & accessories, etc. Do NOT do anything that could be considered as damaging their property in any way....even though it could be done without actually causing physical damage...and would merely be a PITA for them to figure out later.

i forgot to add - i own all their domain names too. i tried and tried to get them to buy them, i explained how to do it through godaddy but they didn't but wanted a site up, so since they wanted a site, i got them to help them out. i have never "gave" the site/s names to them. anybody know if i am obligate by law to give them that? if they don't have their domain name/s, they will have to re-brand.

LOL
Are you hosting them too?

looks like.

 

[EMPshockwave82]

Sounds like you have everything they want / need for their business to continue on their plan. You have them by the short and curlies IMO.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Holy shit you were burned, jacked, and disrespected after all. I've got to give you props on the bad ass computer skills.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Now that you've updated with a bit more information, I can understand your frustration.

I'd give them everything that they paid for...nothing more. If that meant wiping the drive(s) and putting them back in the original box(es) then giving them back all the hardware and uninstalled software, so be it.

I'd also immediately pull their site from your server...backed up of course so they could have it back if they pay. I would NOT give them 24 hours notice...I'd do it first, then notify them that it had been taken down for lack of payment.

Do you have ANY of this in writing? If not, you may never collect a dime from them, but by dammed, they certainly wouldn't make a dime on my free labor either.

Just be sure to give them everything they paid for...software and keys, hardware and drivers, all cables & accessories, etc. Do NOT do anything that could be considered as damaging their property in any way....even though it could be done without actually causing physical damage...and would merely be a PITA for them to figure out later.

i forgot to add - i own all their domain names too. i tried and tried to get them to buy them, i explained how to do it through godaddy but they didn't but wanted a site up, so since they wanted a site, i got them to help them out. i have never "gave" the site/s names to them. anybody know if i am obligate by law to give them that? if they don't have their domain name/s, they will have to re-brand.

LOL
Are you hosting them too?

yes

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: skyking
did they ever pay you or promise to pay? wow. turn them off to get their attention. give them a reasonable price for the server work, the domain, a fixed price to move to other hosting ,and 30 days to get a host. And never do business with them again.

never paid, but there was an agreed upon amount

 

[fleabag]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
While a handshake SHOULD be enough to stand up in court...it rarely is. If it were, we wouldn't need lawyers...

Emails MIGHT help...but are easily spoofed, so even that'd probably be questioned.

Except on judge judy, where she treats it as gospel.

 

[Bignate603]

Image the computer and nuke it. Back up their website and then take it down. Replace the website with a page that says that the website has been removed due to failure to pay for their IT services.

This will give them exactly what they paid for, nothing else. If they balk offer to restore the image for at least your original price, maybe a bit more for your troubles. Don't host this for them again, offer to sell them the domain for a reasonable price and tell them to have someone else host it because after this you are done with them. If you did the work to set up their website don't give it to them unless they pay you for it. Get any payment up front in full.

 

[Ns1]

Nuke it from orbit

 

[Jeff7181]

Still no information on whether this company actually stated they will not pay. Everything else is unimportant if they're not actually refusing to pay and just being dicks. Sounds like the OP is making an assumption... unless of course they actually did say "we're not paying and you can't do anything about it because you've already done the work."

 

[AznAnarchy99]

If they actually told you "what can you do about it, it is already done", then nuke it now.