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iGas

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The hardest part in business is collecting money. You must let the client know the cost of your time & materials and expected payment/s date before any work commence.

My brother & I had a computer service company from 1991-1993, and it has to be the toughest business I have been in for collecting money from clients due to clients with poor computer knowledge.
 

KingGheedora

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Originally posted by: wiredspider
Don't understand how they are burning you?

Make a backup, clean off the system, and give it back to them with the clean hdd.

This is the best reply. They agreed to pay you for the service of setting up the server (at least that's what i think you tried to say. Your communication skills need some serious work and if your post is any indication of how you communicate with others then I can picture the whole thing being a result of your poor communication skils and/or thought process). So, if they don't pay, you don't provide the service. If they decide to pay, you restore their server from the backup.
 

KingGheedora

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Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Still no information on whether this company actually stated they will not pay. Everything else is unimportant if they're not actually refusing to pay and just being dicks. Sounds like the OP is making an assumption... unless of course they actually did say "we're not paying and you can't do anything about it because you've already done the work."

sorry, i thought i covered that. they have stated basically they aren't paying and too bad for me but to put it online and distribute the rdps, and also can you look at a couple of our people's laptops and check them out and bring them up-to-date if they need it. the audacity has become incredible. i couldn't make this stuff up. i wouldn't have brought this whole thing up unless they didn't say they wouldn't pay, i just wouldn't have done biz w/ them again and gave them what they paid for, but since they have said they won't pay and too bad to me, that is why i am pondering the wiping of the hdd since i got them empty. basically i acquired all the pieces through their means, which i do not want - they will get that stuff back, i put the puzzle together.

Something about your story doesn't make any sense at all. Your account of the whole thing is too vague to tell if they are doing anything wrong. Would you be able to post a recount of the exact conversations you had with them, as best as you can remember it?

1. when they agreed to pay you, and when the amount was discussed
2. when they said "too bad for you"

If it's as simple as you say, the whole situation is under your control. You have their domains, you have their server. You don't have to give anything to them if they are not willing to pay you for it. Why do you still have their server, are they expecting you to run their server for them, from your home office? It sounds like that's the case since they asked you to distribute the RDP's. In any case you have every thing they need and all you have to do is insist that they pay or you will cease to provide all services and withhold their domains. Take a backup of the server so that if they decide to pay you can quickly get them back to where they need to be because the point is not retaliation, just receiving payment for services rendered.

Sorry I'm fascinated by this it just seems so straightforward. There has to be something you are leaving out of the story here. Tell us what it is.
 

ixelion

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ERASE THAT HARD DRIVE:

no money = no service.

This is simple don't give it a second thought.
 

BoomerD

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It looks like many people aren't reading the up-to-date parts of this thread...only the original problem...:roll:

My best advice would be to contact a lawyer before you do anything. Yes, YOU currently own the domain names and have all the rights to them, BUT, since you've provided them to the company, you're setting yourself up for a legal battle if you shut them down.

There have been some expensive legal battles over domain name rights. Are you ready to fork over many thousands of $$ to fight these pricks?

Spend a couple of hundred $$ to talk to a lawyer who knows about this area of law. Most likely, his advice will be to sell them to the company. (I have no idea how much the going rate will be...but I'm sure there will be a lot of negotiation involved. DON'T let them bluff you into selling cheap. Make the bastards pay, BUT make them pay a fair price.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
It looks like many people aren't reading the up-to-date parts of this thread...only the original problem...:roll:

My best advice would be to contact a lawyer before you do anything. Yes, YOU currently own the domain names and have all the rights to them, BUT, since you've provided them to the company, you're setting yourself up for a legal battle if you shut them down.

There have been some expensive legal battles over domain name rights. Are you ready to fork over many thousands of $$ to fight these pricks?

Spend a couple of hundred $$ to talk to a lawyer who knows about this area of law. Most likely, his advice will be to sell them to the company. (I have no idea how much the going rate will be...but I'm sure there will be a lot of negotiation involved. DON'T let them bluff you into selling cheap. Make the bastards pay, BUT make them pay a fair price.

Meh not their fault if the OP doesn't update his original post with updates.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: BoomerD
It looks like many people aren't reading the up-to-date parts of this thread...only the original problem...:roll:

My best advice would be to contact a lawyer before you do anything. Yes, YOU currently own the domain names and have all the rights to them, BUT, since you've provided them to the company, you're setting yourself up for a legal battle if you shut them down.

There have been some expensive legal battles over domain name rights. Are you ready to fork over many thousands of $$ to fight these pricks?

Spend a couple of hundred $$ to talk to a lawyer who knows about this area of law. Most likely, his advice will be to sell them to the company. (I have no idea how much the going rate will be...but I'm sure there will be a lot of negotiation involved. DON'T let them bluff you into selling cheap. Make the bastards pay, BUT make them pay a fair price.

Meh not their fault if the OP doesn't update his original post with updates.

updated the original thread....think i hit all the main points