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Got Back from Japan

Narmer

Diamond Member
I visited Sanda City, outside of Osaka. Very clean country and highly efficient. Unlike NYC, no potholes and the trains are always on time.

The Playstation 3 isn't doing well in Japan. I see it in every store, unsold. But the Wii is sold out everywhere. The same goes for the Nintendo DS. PSP is readily available. Sony is doing badly in Japan.

Most of the girls wear thigh-high miniskirts in Osaka. Don't stare at them too long, or else they'll think you like them and start to blush.

The toilet is cool. It has the time on it, gets warm when you sit on it, and water squirts out to clean the sh!t out of your ass, lessening the need for many tissues. Unfortunately, Japanese homes are very cold because of a lack of central heating.

Toyota dominates Japan. But the other Japanese manufacturers have a respectable showing. Even though they're starting to call them Lexus, all of their premium vehicles fall under the Toyota brand. The same is true for Nissan and Honda. What I found strange and disturbing is that I only saw a few Acura TSXs on the road. Worse, I saw no Acura TL (Honda Accord there) or Acura MDX (which is what I own but will sell soon). I plan to write to Honda about this, asking why they are so unpopular (luxury-wise) in their home country.

Nissan is also popular as well. My gf's father is a Nissan fan. He's been buying their cars for the past 50 years. Right now he has a Nissan FUGA 450GT sport (Infiniti M45). That car is amazing. He doesn't need a key to open the door (he just passes his finger in front of the key slot). I think he leaves his car keys home. Inside, they have something called Carwings, like Onstar, and a navagation system. What's great about theirs is that, in addition to the normal traffic alert, the car alerts you to debris on the road. This happened when we were returning from Nara and a truck lost one of its rugs.

But he plans on downgrading to the Nissan Skyline (G35) because the roads can be tight in certain places). There are a lot of small cars and trucks in Japan. I've never been to Europe but I would put this place as a car maniac's heaven. The only American cars I saw were mainly trucks. European luxury vehicles were popular as well. I saw one Hyundai.

The food is good, but geareds towards healthy living. I enjoyed the Chinese and Indian food when I got the chance.

Todaiji, where the biggest Buddha in Japan is housed, is overran by deers. You can pet them but they are can be aggressive if there is food around.

I asked my gf's father about WWII and how he felt about it considering that Japan killed 26 million Chinese? He said the past was the past and Japan has apologized. I then pushed him further, saying that the Japanese still forget to mention these things in their textbooks, thus denying their youths of the truth. With that, I think I hit a severe nerve and I could sense consternation because he's a very good man but proud Japanese. I then went further, after seeing on the news that the North Koreans had kidnapped yet another Japanese citizen the day before, saying that considering America is now stuck in Iraq and is busy fighting multiple wars on different fronts, Japan needed to change its policy and learn to defend itself. He got upset and said that America made Japan what it is today and she (America) promised to help her if she was attacked. I said that Japan should convince America of the need to change its constitution so that it can do what is necessary in this modern day. He told me to speak to the Japanese Prime Minister. He also said that many Japanese young people were not interested in politics, only making money and enjoying themselves. He said that he wished I was Japanese so that I could help his country.

Great country but they really need to have an honest dialogue with their neighbors. If this is the Asian way of doing things, then it's really sad.

EDIT: I have a book on the Nissan Fairlady Z (350Z) and a SKYLINE badge if anybody wants it. Just PM me.
 
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

lol, isn't that what the whole world views us Americans as anyway?
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.

I said YOU came across as an ass to him. In fact most would.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

They talked plenty of politics when I was there. Just bring up Bush and they go nuts.
 
Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

They talked plenty of politics when I was there. Just bring up Bush and they go nuts.

Well they like to talk about celebrities and to them, Bush is a celebrity, a dangerous one that is.
 
Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

They talked plenty of politics when I was there. Just bring up Bush and they go nuts.

LOL! I think Bush is the great unifier.
 
i'm not familiar with the cars you mentioned but when i here luxury, i think of a larger car, more space. there's not exactly a lot of that over there, so that might be why they don't do so well.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.

I said YOU came across as an ass to him. In fact most would.

Well, he apologized profusely afterwards. I may be an ass but I could see that this is something that's been bothering him for quite a long time. Besides, Japanese people are in a serious need of discussing these things. I will try to be direct towards any Japanese I meet in the future.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm not familiar with the cars you mentioned but when i here luxury, i think of a larger car, more space. there's not exactly a lot of that over there, so that might be why they don't do so well.

Toyota's luxury models sell well over there, but not Honda's. My gf's father said that's because Hondas are expensive, which is odd considering Acuras are relatively cheap (luxury vehicles) in America.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.

I said YOU came across as an ass to him. In fact most would.

Well, he apologized profusely afterwards. I may be an ass but I could see that this is something that's been bothering him for quite a long time. Besides, Japanese people are in a serious need of discussing these things. I will try to be direct towards any Japanese I meet in the future.

I guess you still don't get it. He apologized because he didn't like you. They aren't direct and often express the opposite of what you might be thinking. Dumbass.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.

I said YOU came across as an ass to him. In fact most would.

Well, he apologized profusely afterwards. I may be an ass but I could see that this is something that's been bothering him for quite a long time. Besides, Japanese people are in a serious need of discussing these things. I will try to be direct towards any Japanese I meet in the future.

How could you see that this topic was bothering him? It sounds more like you provoked him with this topic and he apologized for saying something that may have offended you.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Toyota dominates Japan. But the other Japanese manufacturers have a respectable showing. Even though they're starting to call them Lexus, all of their premium vehicles fall under the Toyota brand. The same is true for Nissan and Honda. What I found strange and disturbing is that I only saw a few Acura TSXs on the road. Worse, I saw no Acura TL (Honda Accord there) or Acura MDX (which is what I own but will sell soon). I plan to write to Honda about this, asking why they are so unpopular (luxury-wise) in their home country.

No need. It's the same reason why the BMW X5, Mercedes ML, etc. aren't seen often in Germany. They are expensive to buy, hard to park, and WAY too expensive to fuel or insure. SUvs are made for gas-hogging Americans and that's about it.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.

I said YOU came across as an ass to him. In fact most would.

Well, he apologized profusely afterwards. I may be an ass but I could see that this is something that's been bothering him for quite a long time. Besides, Japanese people are in a serious need of discussing these things. I will try to be direct towards any Japanese I meet in the future.

I guess you still don't get it. He apologized because he didn't like you. They aren't direct and often express the opposite of what you might be thinking. Dumbass.

You don't even know the man I'm talking about and yet you're so passionate about it. This guy may be a great person but he's very un-Japanese in many ways. And if you think I'm such a dumbass, it isn't my people who are getting kidnapped by a third-world sh!thole lead by a paranoid leader named Kim Jung-Il. You know what your Japanese leaders do when they kidnap Japanese people, your leaders get on all fours, kowtows to Lil Kim, and begs him to release your people. What kind of sh!t is that? HE'S KIDNAPPING JAPANESE CIVILIANS AND YOU CAN'T DO SH!T ABOUT IT. And I'm the dumbass for discussing the obvious? Well, it this shows what he meant when he said that today's Japanese just care about themselves and not their country. You're an example of that.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.

I said YOU came across as an ass to him. In fact most would.

Well, he apologized profusely afterwards. I may be an ass but I could see that this is something that's been bothering him for quite a long time. Besides, Japanese people are in a serious need of discussing these things. I will try to be direct towards any Japanese I meet in the future.

I guess you still don't get it. He apologized because he didn't like you. They aren't direct and often express the opposite of what you might be thinking. Dumbass.

I would listen to deathkoba. It would probably be better for you NOT to confront them on issues that may be sensitive to them.

Originally posted by: Narmer
You don't even know the man I'm talking about and yet you're so passionate about it. This guy may be a great person but he's very un-Japanese in many ways. And if you think I'm such a dumbass, it isn't my people who are getting kidnapped by a third-world sh!thole lead by a paranoid leader named Kim Jung-Il. You know what your Japanese leaders do when they kidnap Japanese people, your leaders get on all fours, kowtows to Lil Kim, and begs him to release your people. What kind of sh!t is that? HE'S KIDNAPPING JAPANESE CIVILIANS AND YOU CAN'T DO SH!T ABOUT IT. And I'm the dumbass for discussing the obvious? Well, it this shows what he meant when he said that today's Japanese just care about themselves and not their country. You're an example of that.

Its possible he apologized to you for getting getting angry but its also possible he doesn't like to talk about those things. Even if it is obvious, doesn't mean it can't be uncomftorable for someone. I just think in general, you taking a direct approach towards brigning up those subjects may get you started on the wrong foot with certain people.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.

It was not IMPERIAL Japan that acted! It was the military! Emperor Hirohito had no real power during the war, and he was the one that SAVED millions of Japanese!

It's not very well known, but after the second bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, top military officials wanted to continue fighting. It was only after his direct order that they surrendered. He was actually quite the visionary for Japan, being the FIRST emperor in the nearly 1500 year long bloodline to actually INTERACT with the people. People didn't believe he was the Emperor when he came to visit their villages, because he looked like a man...not the God they had been brought up to worship.

From the late 20's until 1945 Japan was ruled by the military. Don't fool yourself.
 
Originally posted by: Eghck
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Here's a clue from your local ATJap: Most Japanese people do not talk politics, not even older generations and quite frankly don't understand how it affects them. Most people are too immersed in their utopia surroundings that such reality does not exist. You've probably came across as a total ass and he's probably thinking that there's something seriously wrong with you in all honesty.

He's not an ass. He's a really great man but, like you said, they never talk politics and he was born in 1934 so he took no part in the war but he felt it greatly because of his family. But, to me, it's unforgivable considering how imperial Japan acted and why these people don't want to discuss it with their neighbors. It's sad for them to move forward on the political front.

I said YOU came across as an ass to him. In fact most would.

Well, he apologized profusely afterwards. I may be an ass but I could see that this is something that's been bothering him for quite a long time. Besides, Japanese people are in a serious need of discussing these things. I will try to be direct towards any Japanese I meet in the future.

I guess you still don't get it. He apologized because he didn't like you. They aren't direct and often express the opposite of what you might be thinking. Dumbass.

I would listen to deathkoba. It would probably be better for you NOT to confront them on issues that may be sensitive to them.

Originally posted by: Narmer
You don't even know the man I'm talking about and yet you're so passionate about it. This guy may be a great person but he's very un-Japanese in many ways. And if you think I'm such a dumbass, it isn't my people who are getting kidnapped by a third-world sh!thole lead by a paranoid leader named Kim Jung-Il. You know what your Japanese leaders do when they kidnap Japanese people, your leaders get on all fours, kowtows to Lil Kim, and begs him to release your people. What kind of sh!t is that? HE'S KIDNAPPING JAPANESE CIVILIANS AND YOU CAN'T DO SH!T ABOUT IT. And I'm the dumbass for discussing the obvious? Well, it this shows what he meant when he said that today's Japanese just care about themselves and not their country. You're an example of that.

Its possible he apologized to you for getting getting angry but its also possible he doesn't like to talk about those things. Even if it is obvious, doesn't mean it can't be uncomftorable for someone. I just think in general, you taking a direct approach towards brigning up those subjects may get you started on the wrong foot with certain people.

You may be right but my interest isn't in making people feel good. It's in discussing genuine concerns. I've never gotten the opinion of real Japanese and I wanted to while I was there, irreguardless of their way. I wanted to know how they felt about these things because it's so important. Japan really needs to reform its constitution and take a more active role in it's own security. A good friend of mine is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and they supported a more assertive Japan in one of their Foreign Affairs articles two or three years. I hope the next American Administration takes that seriously.

I like Japan. My opinion to my gf's father was that America and Japan should become equals. This will help both nations deal with the emerging power in the region, China. Whether or not they like to talk politics, if they don't address these issues, someone else will for them.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer

You may be right but my interest isn't in making people feel good. It's in discussing genuine concerns. I've never gotten the opinion of real Japanese and I wanted to while I was there, irreguardless of their way. I wanted to know how they felt about these things because it's so important. Japan really needs to reform its constitution and take a more active role in it's own security. A good friend of mine is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and they supported a more assertive Japan in one of their Foreign Affairs articles two or three years. I hope the next American Administration takes that seriously.

I like Japan. My opinion to my gf's father was that America and Japan should become equals. This will help both nations deal with the emerging power in the region, China. Whether or not they like to talk politics, if they don't address these issues, someone else will for them.

well that part is fine, but it may be to your advantage to ask people OTHER than your girlfriend's father 😉
 
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