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got a note/fine for animal violation

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An apartment in Texas? WTF! Tell them to 'bite' you. Do you really want to continue to live in an apt. complex that anal? If they wanted me out, I'd simply find a new place.
 
Did you give a security deposit when you moved in?

I have the feeling if you don't pay the fine, at least $100 will come out of that depoist when you get it back.
 
You should have just said that they showed up, came in, you informed them of the rules and put them out right away but stood at the door talking for several minutes. You are a model tenant.

Too late for that now.
 
Lifted said:
Did you give a security deposit when you moved in?

I have the feeling if you don't pay the fine, at least $100 will come out of that depoist when you get it back.
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nope, no deposit. Like I said, if they provide me with physical evidence the dog was inside the apartment, I'll have to pay. Else, they can cry me a river.

OCGuy said:
Your understanding of the real world is quite bad.

If it went to court, you would lie to a judge even though you already admitted it, and now there is an electronic record of it?

Just have your parents pay the fine, something tells me they subsidize your apartment anyway.
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Strong stalker here.

Unless the phone line was tap'd by the government, phone companies do not record calls. No names were mentioned. No addresses were mentioned. And according to the law, such conversations, even if recorded, are generally of little use in court. Now please have a seat.
 
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Then fuck it. How much time do you really think this woman will spend on this when it's merely her word against yours? Ignore her.

Here's a sample letter if you need help getting her to fuck off.

Dear Nosy wise and beautiful woman,

Suck my balls.

Sincerely,
heavyiron8
 
Gonna call their office tomorrow to ask for evidence. Politely and kindly, of course.


bononos said:
Why should the apartment management provide evidence, you brought the dog inside. They might not have seen it themselves but there are other people who might have informed on you.
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Please read the OP before posting. And no, no one else saw the dog. That I can guarantee. Only visual evidence they have would be a security cam that I'm not aware off. Which is the whole reason why I'm going to call them in the first place to politely ask for evidence.
 
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nope, no deposit. Like I said, if they provide me with physical evidence the dog was inside the apartment, I'll have to pay. Else, they can cry me a river.

Strong stalker here.

Unless the phone line was tap'd by the government, phone companies do not record calls. No names were mentioned. No addresses were mentioned. And according to the law, such conversations, even if recorded, are generally of little use in court. Now please have a seat.
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Why should the apartment management provide evidence, you brought the dog inside. They might not have seen it themselves but there are other people who might have informed on you.
 
heavyiron8 said:
The burden of proof is still on the landlord. I'll have no choice but pay if they can show me proof the dog entered the apartment. If not, I'm not giving them a cent.
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She witnessed you and had you admit it. You can try to deny it, but this isn't CSI she isn't going to need a reflection off the screw of a license plate to make the claim and it's going to be up to some small claims judge.

If you're really going to attempt something like that you probably should plan to leave and eat whatever penalties there are for breaking your lease because there's a whole world of more she could do to you that you wouldn't have proof of than you could do to her.
 
Walking in and out would not be "kept on the premises" imo.

Make the visitors pay the fine, or half of it.
 
heavyiron8 said:
That would be the best case scenario. Then it'd be her word vs. that of mine + guests that came over + roommate.




Enlighten me
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So, you and your guests plan to lie b/c you have already admitted to us here and to the the office manager over the phone that you allowed the dog into your apartment? All over $100 when you know you were wrong? OK!
 
I used to live in a Townhouse condo complex, by myself, with no pets of any kind.

One day I got home from work (6PM) and there was a note on my door from the HOA (yes I know what you all think about them) that stated I "need to clean up after my dog behind my backyard". All our units had a small backyard leading out to a large section of lawn owned by the property management that stretched the length of the complex.

I didn't own a dog, so I figured the note was meant for someone else. I threw it away.

The next day I found another note on the door. Again I threw it away. Then I found another one the next day, this one threatening me with a fine.

Getting fed up with this nonsense, I wrote my own note that said, "I don't own a fucking dog. I am not responsible for dog poop anywhere. If I find another note I will call the police and have you charged with harassment" and posted it on my door.

I never had a problem after that.
 
Capt Caveman said:
So, you and your guests plan to lie b/c you have already admitted to us here and to the the office manager over the phone that you allowed the dog into your apartment? All over $100 when you know you were wrong? OK!
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As far as real life is concerned, I've admitted nothing. Nowhere. Not even here. It has nothing to do with the 100 dollars. Please re-read the thread, if interested.


AyashiKaibutsu said:
It's funny that people that decide to start things never realize what they're actually getting into. If you can't imagine what a landlord could allow happen without their "knowledge/fault" to make your life hell there's no helping you.
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Lease ends in about a month.

Sounds like you're saying they could somehow screw up my life. And I don't think you were on my side trying to help me to begin with. So kthxbai.

Pulsar said:
So.... you broke the rules, she called you on it and wasn't interested in making a deal, so she's a bitch?

Now you're going to lie, try to take it to court, and generally be an even bigger asshole?

Oh yes, I see this ending very well for you. By all means, continue your total lack of personal accountability and take her to court. Perhaps you'll get stuck paying court costs too.
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Nice assumptions there. You weren't the one on the phone. So I'm pretty sure you didn't hear her tone of voice. So you just need to take my word on that.

jagec said:
Well, I hope that you're moving out, because it seems pretty likely that your lease won't be renewed.
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😵 I'd think anyone with basic reading comprehension skills would know I won't be renewing the lease.
 
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I was very polite. If the manager had being the same way, I wouldn't think this would be worth my time either. She started with an extremely arrogant attitude, and when I tried to persuade her to make an one-time exception, she won't have it. She eventually hung up on me, so I guess that implies either I pay or legal action will be taken. And since she's being a bitch, I'll play hardball too.
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So.... you broke the rules, she called you on it and wasn't interested in making a deal, so she's a bitch?

Now you're going to lie, try to take it to court, and generally be an even bigger asshole?

Oh yes, I see this ending very well for you. By all means, continue your total lack of personal accountability and take her to court. Perhaps you'll get stuck paying court costs too.
 
heavyiron8 said:
Lease ends in about a month.

Sounds like you're saying they could somehow screw up my life. And I don't think you were on my side trying to help me to begin with. So kthxbai.
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Well, I hope that you're moving out, because it seems pretty likely that your lease won't be renewed.
 
Capt Caveman said:
They don't need physical evidence. The office manager was an eyewitness.

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The lease likely states pets living there which was not the case. I seriously doubt that clause is written so anally that an animal can't enter the apartment for a short period of time. However trying to fight the fact the dog was in the apartment is a losing cause. She witnessed it and it, in fact, did happen.

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@OP: Do not call them until you have read the specific clause in the lease regarding pets. If you don't have a copy simply call and request one before you try to fight the fee.
 
heavyiron8 said:
As far as real life is concerned, I've admitted nothing. Nowhere. Not even here. It has nothing to do with the 100 dollars. Please re-read the thread, if interested.
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I think you should probably read what you posted.

Here I'll make it easy on you.

heavyiron said:
This past Monday, I received a note on my door saying that I violated the animal policy of the apartment. On Saturday, I had visitors that brought over a dog momentarily. For the majority of the time that the guests were here (approximately 2.5 hours), the dog was tied to the back of their truck and was therefore not in the apartment. The dog briefly entered into the apartment and just walked around on the carpet, and about 15 minutes later my guests left. Then on Monday, I got the note saying that I had to pay 100 dollars for animal violation or risk late fees.
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Sounds to me like you just admitted the dog entered the apartment. Which would likely be a breach of your lease.

Of course my reading skills are a bit rusty......
 
saratoga172 said:
I think you should probably read what you posted.

Here I'll make it easy on you.



Sounds to me like you just admitted the dog entered the apartment. Which would likely be a breach of your lease.

Of course my reading skills are a bit rusty......
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I'm sure what I posted here is enough evidence to make me pay the fee........(This is sarcasm, in case your rusty comprehension skills didn't pick that up)
 
OCGuy said:
self-ownage thread.
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This thread was about asking anyone with knowledge on landlord-tenant laws. No self-ownage detected, particularly when I deflected your previous false statements. From the looks of it, you have nothing to respond to my reply. Good bye.

wkabel23 said:
What type of complex doesn't require a security deposit? OP is an immature prick. Your theories about LL having to prove that the dog was in your apt with forensic analysis are laughable. I pity the small claims court judge that has to listen to your nonsense.
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Lol? Please look up the landlord-tenant laws in Texas. The burden of proof is on the landlord whether or not an animal has being inside an apartment, this means damage to the apartment, scratches on apartment property.. etc. No evidence means its gonna be mine + roommate + guests words against hers. You're right, no one is going to do a forensic analysis. My god, you're one dense human being.
 
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What type of complex doesn't require a security deposit? OP is an immature prick. Your theories about LL having to prove that the dog was in your apt with forensic analysis are laughable. I pity the small claims court judge that has to listen to your nonsense.
 
heavyiron8 said:
I'm sure what I posted here is enough evidence to make me pay the fee........(This is sarcasm, in case your rusty comprehension skills didn't pick that up)
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I was only responding to your backing out on what you said. You first posted the dog entered the apartment then posted you never said such a thing. Which I clearly bolded for you.

You posted asking for opinions and got them. Pay the damn fee if she won't negotiate with you. Be done with it. Do you even have a job?

And there have been numerous helpful posts on ways to approach the landlord...ways which may help the situation. Not escalate it, which is what you seem to want to do. You must be the type of person who stabs a guy for looking at you. If you hadn't been such an ass to the helpful people it wouldn't have escalate to this.

And you wonder why people aren't on your side and helping anymore...
 
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