got a note/fine for animal violation

heavyiron8

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Anyone familiar with landlord - tenant laws in Texas?

This past Monday, I received a note on my door saying that I violated the animal policy of the apartment. On Saturday, I had visitors that brought over a dog momentarily. For the majority of the time that the guests were here (approximately 2.5 hours), the dog was tied to the back of their truck and was therefore not in the apartment. The dog briefly entered into the apartment and just walked around on the carpet, and about 15 minutes later my guests left. Then on Monday, I got the note saying that I had to pay 100 dollars for animal violation or risk late fees.

I called the management office, and the manager claims she was walking her dog that day and saw the guests with the pet enter into my apartment and therefore is fining me for the violation. My question is, if they have no physical proof that there was ever an animal in my apartment (the dog didn't do any damage, left no mark anywhere) would I have to pay the fine? If this were to escalate to court, what would happen? Also during the phone conversation with the apartment manager, at the spur of the moment, I admitted to my guests bringing a pet over to my apartment, is it usual for apartment managements to record calls? If not, I could just say that I never admitted my guests ever bringing an animal to the property? I don't believe there are video cameras in the complex, so I don't think they have visual evidence.

Just want to add, when I admitted to my guests bringing a dog over, at the spur of the moment, I implied that I will pay the 100 dollar violation. But I asked them to extend the due date to the end of the month. And they promptly sent over another note stating the new due date. I'm not sure if they can claim any evidence from this?
 

Ns1

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Is the $100 fine explicitly stated in the lease agreement or some other document in which you signed?
 

heavyiron8

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Your fault, you knew the rules when you signed the lease. Pay up.

I would except this apartment manager is extremely arrogant, and generally a bitch to deal with. Stuff do not get fixed on time when they're broken, my roommate's side of the bathroom had his toilet stuck for 2 weeks before they finally sent a repairman. And yet, a dog comes into the apt for 5 minuets and they want us to pay 100$.


I just backtraced your IP and will show your manager this thread.

Hur Hur, derp


Is the $100 fine explicitly stated in the lease agreement or some other document in which you signed?


I think so, but the thing is there is no mark or any physical evidence there has being dog inside my apartment
 
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OCGuy

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Hey smart guy, it isn't CSI. They don't need to find animal DNA in your apartment to fine you.

Guess what else they can do? Evict you. I guarantee you there is a "Breach of Contract" clause in your lease.
 

Ns1

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I think so, but the thing is there is no mark or any physical evidence there has being dog inside my apartment

yeah but you know you did and you admitted to it so now you're just being a lying sack of shit.
 

pontifex

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Anyone familiar with landlord - tenant laws in Texas?

This past Monday, I received a note on my door saying that I violated the animal policy of the apartment. On Saturday, I had visitors that brought over a dog momentarily. For the majority of the time that the guests were here (approximately 2.5 hours), the dog was tied to the back of their truck and was therefore not in the apartment. The dog briefly entered into the apartment and just walked around on the carpet, and about 15 minutes later my guests left. Then on Monday, I got the note saying that I had to pay 100 dollars for animal violation or risk late fees.

I called the management office, and the manager claims she was walking her dog that day and saw the guests with the pet enter into my apartment and therefore is fining me for the violation. My question is, if they have no physical proof that there was ever an animal in my apartment (the dog didn't do any damage, left no mark anywhere) would I have to pay the fine? If this were to escalate to court, what would happen? Also during the phone conversation with the apartment manager, at the spur of the moment, I admitted to my guests bringing a pet over to my apartment, is it usual for apartment managements to record calls? If not, I could just say that I never admitted my guests ever bringing an animal to the property? I don't believe there are video cameras in the complex, so I don't think they have visual evidence.

Just want to add, when I admitted to my guests bringing a dog over, at the spur of the moment, I implied that I will pay the 100 dollar violation. But I asked them to extend the due date to the end of the month. And they promptly sent over another note stating the new due date. I'm not sure if they can claim any evidence from this?

quoted for evidence :whiste:
 

KeithTalent

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Hey smart guy, it isn't CSI. They don't need to find animal DNA in your apartment to fine you.

Guess what else they can do? Evict you. I guarantee you there is a "Breach of Contract" clause in your lease.

yeah but you know you did and you admitted to it so now you're just being a lying sack of shit.

These!

KT
 

olds

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The lease likely says something about you owning a dog. Not about visitors dropping by.
 
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Being polite goes a long way. Ask very nicely if they can make a one time exception or lower the fine.

Where you at in TX?
 

heavyiron8

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Being polite goes a long way. Ask very nicely if they can make a one time exception or lower the fine.

Where you at in TX?

I was very polite. If the manager had being the same way, I wouldn't think this would be worth my time either. She started with an extremely arrogant attitude, and when I tried to persuade her to make an one-time exception, she won't have it. She eventually hung up on me, so I guess that implies either I pay or legal action will be taken. And since she's being a bitch, I'll play hardball too.
 
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I was very polite. If the manager had being the same way, I wouldn't think this would be worth my time either. She started with an extremely arrogant attitude, and when I tried to persuade her to make an one-time exception, she won't have it. She eventually hung up on me, so I guess that implies either I pay or legal action will be taken. And since she's being a bitch, I'll play hardball too.
This will end well for you. I have foreseen it.
 

DrPizza

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But, I thought you told me that the dog was you friend's comfort animal for her disability, I.e., covered by the A.D.A.

More seriously, see exactly how it's worded in the lease.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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I doubt you playing dumb and accusing her of lying is going to pay off in the end. Quit being a whiny bitch and pay up.
 

FoBoT

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example lease found on interweb
http://www.mrlandlord.com/lease/
7. PETS: No animal, fowl, fish, reptile, and/or pet of any kind shall be kept on or about the premises, for any amount of time, without obtaining the prior written consent and meeting the requirements of the OWNER. Such consent if granted, shall be revocable at OWNER'S option upon giving a 30 day written notice. In the event laws are passed or permission is granted to have a pet and/or animal of any kind, an additional deposit in the amount of $_________ shall be required along with additional monthly rent of $_______ along with the signing of OWNER'S Pet Agreement. RESIDENT also agrees to carry insurance deemed appropriate by OWNER to cover possible liability and damages that may be caused by such animals.
read your lease
pay or do not pay, there is no try
 

OCGuy

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The burden of proof is still on the landlord. I'll have no choice but pay if they can show me proof the dog entered the apartment. If not, I'm not giving them a cent.

Your understanding of the real world is quite bad.

If it went to court, you would lie to a judge even though you already admitted it, and now there is an electronic record of it?

Just have your parents pay the fine, something tells me they subsidize your apartment anyway.