Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
nice vehicle Pablo. don't worry about all the tree-humpin, tofu eatin, non-passenger-carryin, commie-hippie bastards here, they're just jealous and intimidated that their Prius/Metro/wuss-mobile feels so insignificant next to your "I AM MAN, FEAR ME" truck.
It's statements like this that lead me to believe that while most of mankind has been evolving there are people like yourself that are being left behind. The primitive part of your brain that is saying "BIG BETTER ME LIKE BIG" is dominant and rarely questioned. An educated evolved person has this once dominant portion of their brain suppressed and defaults to a more logical interpretation of the physical world. If the less evolved person were to take a dozen sledge hammer bashings to the head, the primitive brain would still stay intact. This would ultimately lead to death by way of sudden stupidity.
Does one person really need FOUR V8 powered sports coupes?
Does one person really need ONE Ferrari Enzo? No, but it would sure be nice to have one. Just like it's nice to have my four cars.
And it's still excess. You had a huge rant on excess of size. You have an excess of quantity(and size of engine to a degree). Still the same primal chest beating desires of the id that you were complaining about.
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
nice vehicle Pablo. don't worry about all the tree-humpin, tofu eatin, non-passenger-carryin, commie-hippie bastards here, they're just jealous and intimidated that their Prius/Metro/wuss-mobile feels so insignificant next to your "I AM MAN, FEAR ME" truck.
It's statements like this that lead me to believe that while most of mankind has been evolving there are people like yourself that are being left behind. The primitive part of your brain that is saying "BIG BETTER ME LIKE BIG" is dominant and rarely questioned. An educated evolved person has this once dominant portion of their brain suppressed and defaults to a more logical interpretation of the physical world. If the less evolved person were to take a dozen sledge hammer bashings to the head, the primitive brain would still stay intact. This would ultimately lead to death by way of sudden stupidity.
Does one person really need FOUR V8 powered sports coupes?
Does one person really need ONE Ferrari Enzo? No, but it would sure be nice to have one. Just like it's nice to have my four cars.
And it's still excess. You had a huge rant on excess of size. You have an excess of quantity(and size of engine to a degree). Still the same primal chest beating desires of the id that you were complaining about.
I don't have the vechicles to show any sort of dominance. I have them because I enjoy the thrill of their performance. Besides, my comment wasn't directed at SUVs in general, just the statement AmigaMan made.
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
I don't like the vehicle, supercharged or not. It's not designed to go fast. It has the aerodynamics of a cinder block and the weight of a small building. It's an all American fatty transporter.
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Still slow.
Compared to what?
Anything that doesn't weigh 3 tons.
Agreed...
There's this wonderful concept called: Power-to-Weight Ratio.
While the your Suburban has a fair amount of horsepower...it's still a heavy son-of-a-bitch...
You're not as fast as you think you are.
And tell me, oh psychic one, just how fast do I think I am? Read my thoughts for me. It has a lot more power than stock, that's all i'm saying.
Originally posted by: swtethan
i'd say youre in the low 8 second/high 7 sec 0-60 mark
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
nice vehicle Pablo. don't worry about all the tree-humpin, tofu eatin, non-passenger-carryin, commie-hippie bastards here, they're just jealous and intimidated that their Prius/Metro/wuss-mobile feels so insignificant next to your "I AM MAN, FEAR ME" truck.
It's statements like this that lead me to believe that while most of mankind has been evolving there are people like yourself that are being left behind. The primitive part of your brain that is saying "BIG BETTER ME LIKE BIG" is dominant and rarely questioned. An educated evolved person has this once dominant portion of their brain suppressed and defaults to a more logical interpretation of the physical world. If the less evolved person were to take a dozen sledge hammer bashings to the head, the primitive brain would still stay intact. This would ultimately lead to death by way of sudden stupidity.
Does one person really need FOUR V8 powered sports coupes?
Does one person really need ONE Ferrari Enzo? No, but it would sure be nice to have one. Just like it's nice to have my four cars.
And it's still excess. You had a huge rant on excess of size. You have an excess of quantity(and size of engine to a degree). Still the same primal chest beating desires of the id that you were complaining about.
I don't have the vechicles to show any sort of dominance. I have them because I enjoy the thrill of their performance. Besides, my comment wasn't directed at SUVs in general, just the statement AmigaMan made.
What about this comment?
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
I don't like the vehicle, supercharged or not. It's not designed to go fast. It has the aerodynamics of a cinder block and the weight of a small building. It's an all American fatty transporter.
Doesn't sound quite so neutral. Sounds like if its not designed to go fast = fatty transporter? What you say?
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
nice vehicle Pablo. don't worry about all the tree-humpin, tofu eatin, non-passenger-carryin, commie-hippie bastards here, they're just jealous and intimidated that their Prius/Metro/wuss-mobile feels so insignificant next to your "I AM MAN, FEAR ME" truck.
It's statements like this that lead me to believe that while most of mankind has been evolving there are people like yourself that are being left behind. The primitive part of your brain that is saying "BIG BETTER ME LIKE BIG" is dominant and rarely questioned. An educated evolved person has this once dominant portion of their brain suppressed and defaults to a more logical interpretation of the physical world. If the less evolved person were to take a dozen sledge hammer bashings to the head, the primitive brain would still stay intact. This would ultimately lead to death by way of sudden stupidity.
Does one person really need FOUR V8 powered sports coupes?
Does one person really need ONE Ferrari Enzo? No, but it would sure be nice to have one. Just like it's nice to have my four cars.
And it's still excess. You had a huge rant on excess of size. You have an excess of quantity(and size of engine to a degree). Still the same primal chest beating desires of the id that you were complaining about.
I don't have the vechicles to show any sort of dominance. I have them because I enjoy the thrill of their performance. Besides, my comment wasn't directed at SUVs in general, just the statement AmigaMan made.
What about this comment?
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
I don't like the vehicle, supercharged or not. It's not designed to go fast. It has the aerodynamics of a cinder block and the weight of a small building. It's an all American fatty transporter.
Doesn't sound quite so neutral. Sounds like if its not designed to go fast = fatty transporter? What you say?
I don't like THAT particular SUV, that doesn't mean I hate all of them. Lets take a look at power to weight ratios. Now, by no means is this the end all indication of a vehicles performance, but it is a good indication.
2006 Trailblazer SS: 4680lbs/400hp = 11.7 lbs per hp
2005 Honda S2000: 2835lbs/240hp = 11.8 lbs per hp
2006 Pontiac GTO: 3725lbs/400hp = 9.31 lbs per hp
2007 Toyota Camry: 3483lbs/268hp = 12.99 lbs per hp
Stock Suburban: 5475lbs/295hp = 18.56 lbs per hp
Your Suburban: 5475lbs/400hp = 13.67 lbs per hp
As you can see, the SC just makes the vehicle tolerable at the expense of guzzling even more gas to move it's weight.
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Still slow.
Compared to what?
Anything that doesn't weigh 3 tons.
Agreed...
There's this wonderful concept called: Power-to-Weight Ratio.
While the your Suburban has a fair amount of horsepower...it's still a heavy son-of-a-bitch...
You're not as fast as you think you are.
And tell me, oh psychic one, just how fast do I think I am? Read my thoughts for me. It has a lot more power than stock, that's all i'm saying.
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Still slow.
Compared to what?
Anything that doesn't weigh 3 tons.
Agreed...
There's this wonderful concept called: Power-to-Weight Ratio.
While the your Suburban has a fair amount of horsepower...it's still a heavy son-of-a-bitch...
You're not as fast as you think you are.
And tell me, oh psychic one, just how fast do I think I am? Read my thoughts for me. It has a lot more power than stock, that's all i'm saying.
I'm not psychic. I simply have reading comprehension.
Did you not say:
Its a good mix for me. Its no rocket, but it'd outrun 80% of what's on the road right now. (straightline only, of course ) It makes a 5000lb. behemoth not seem quite so cumbersome.
Thus, you think you're faster than 80% of what is on the road right now. Meaning, you think that you're in the 20th percentile of "fast cars". You're not. No way, no how.
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Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Still slow.
Compared to what?
Anything that doesn't weigh 3 tons.
Agreed...
There's this wonderful concept called: Power-to-Weight Ratio.
While the your Suburban has a fair amount of horsepower...it's still a heavy son-of-a-bitch...
You're not as fast as you think you are.
And tell me, oh psychic one, just how fast do I think I am? Read my thoughts for me. It has a lot more power than stock, that's all i'm saying.
I'm not psychic. I simply have reading comprehension.
Did you not say:
Its a good mix for me. Its no rocket, but it'd outrun 80% of what's on the road right now. (straightline only, of course ) It makes a 5000lb. behemoth not seem quite so cumbersome.
Thus, you think you're faster than 80% of what is on the road right now. Meaning, you think that you're in the 20th percentile of "fast cars". You're not. No way, no how.
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I would never say I was in the top 20% of "fast cars". Why did you completely reword my statement? I still stick to my original statement, 80% of what's on the road.
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
nice vehicle Pablo. don't worry about all the tree-humpin, tofu eatin, non-passenger-carryin, commie-hippie bastards here, they're just jealous and intimidated that their Prius/Metro/wuss-mobile feels so insignificant next to your "I AM MAN, FEAR ME" truck.
It's statements like this that lead me to believe that while most of mankind has been evolving there are people like yourself that are being left behind. The primitive part of your brain that is saying "BIG BETTER ME LIKE BIG" is dominant and rarely questioned. An educated evolved person has this once dominant portion of their brain suppressed and defaults to a more logical interpretation of the physical world. If the less evolved person were to take a dozen sledge hammer bashings to the head, the primitive brain would still stay intact. This would ultimately lead to death by way of sudden stupidity.
Does one person really need FOUR V8 powered sports coupes?
Does one person really need ONE Ferrari Enzo? No, but it would sure be nice to have one. Just like it's nice to have my four cars.
And it's still excess. You had a huge rant on excess of size. You have an excess of quantity(and size of engine to a degree). Still the same primal chest beating desires of the id that you were complaining about.
I don't have the vechicles to show any sort of dominance. I have them because I enjoy the thrill of their performance. Besides, my comment wasn't directed at SUVs in general, just the statement AmigaMan made.
What about this comment?
Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
I don't like the vehicle, supercharged or not. It's not designed to go fast. It has the aerodynamics of a cinder block and the weight of a small building. It's an all American fatty transporter.
Doesn't sound quite so neutral. Sounds like if its not designed to go fast = fatty transporter? What you say?
I don't like THAT particular SUV, that doesn't mean I hate all of them. Lets take a look at power to weight ratios. Now, by no means is this the end all indication of a vehicles performance, but it is a good indication.
2006 Trailblazer SS: 4680lbs/400hp = 11.7 lbs per hp
2005 Honda S2000: 2835lbs/240hp = 11.8 lbs per hp
2006 Pontiac GTO: 3725lbs/400hp = 9.31 lbs per hp
2007 Toyota Camry: 3483lbs/268hp = 12.99 lbs per hp
Stock Suburban: 5475lbs/295hp = 18.56 lbs per hp
Your Suburban: 5475lbs/400hp = 13.67 lbs per hp
As you can see, the SC just makes the vehicle tolerable at the expense of guzzling even more gas to move it's weight.
Thus = fatty transporter? Is this somehow contradictory to something i've said? Plus, none of these are options because they are all more expensive than the vehicle i bought. If you want a pat on the back for having a lighter weight car, good for you. If you ask me, the vehicles you own don't scream practicality any more than mine does.
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Still slow.
Compared to what?
Anything that doesn't weigh 3 tons.
Agreed...
There's this wonderful concept called: Power-to-Weight Ratio.
While the your Suburban has a fair amount of horsepower...it's still a heavy son-of-a-bitch...
You're not as fast as you think you are.
And tell me, oh psychic one, just how fast do I think I am? Read my thoughts for me. It has a lot more power than stock, that's all i'm saying.
I'm not psychic. I simply have reading comprehension.
Did you not say:
Its a good mix for me. Its no rocket, but it'd outrun 80% of what's on the road right now. (straightline only, of course ) It makes a 5000lb. behemoth not seem quite so cumbersome.
Thus, you think you're faster than 80% of what is on the road right now. Meaning, you think that you're in the 20th percentile of "fast cars". You're not. No way, no how.
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I would never say I was in the top 20% of "fast cars". Why did you completely reword my statement? I still stick to my original statement, 80% of what's on the road.
do you understand what you are saying?
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Still slow.
Compared to what?
Anything that doesn't weigh 3 tons.
Agreed...
There's this wonderful concept called: Power-to-Weight Ratio.
While the your Suburban has a fair amount of horsepower...it's still a heavy son-of-a-bitch...
You're not as fast as you think you are.
And tell me, oh psychic one, just how fast do I think I am? Read my thoughts for me. It has a lot more power than stock, that's all i'm saying.
I'm not psychic. I simply have reading comprehension.
Did you not say:
Its a good mix for me. Its no rocket, but it'd outrun 80% of what's on the road right now. (straightline only, of course ) It makes a 5000lb. behemoth not seem quite so cumbersome.
Thus, you think you're faster than 80% of what is on the road right now. Meaning, you think that you're in the 20th percentile of "fast cars". You're not. No way, no how.
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I would never say I was in the top 20% of "fast cars". Why did you completely reword my statement? I still stick to my original statement, 80% of what's on the road.
do you understand what you are saying?
Dear lord.
Do you know how many SUVs there are on the roads? do you know how many trucks there are on the road? do you know how many economy cars there are on the road? do you know how many base model versions of all cars there are on the road? Commercial trucks?
Its a completely unprovable point. I'd say 80% of whats on the road. Call me crazy. I might be delusional. I don't think i know what i'm saying at all. Care to enlighten?
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Still slow.
Compared to what?
Anything that doesn't weigh 3 tons.
Agreed...
There's this wonderful concept called: Power-to-Weight Ratio.
While the your Suburban has a fair amount of horsepower...it's still a heavy son-of-a-bitch...
You're not as fast as you think you are.
And tell me, oh psychic one, just how fast do I think I am? Read my thoughts for me. It has a lot more power than stock, that's all i'm saying.
I'm not psychic. I simply have reading comprehension.
Did you not say:
Its a good mix for me. Its no rocket, but it'd outrun 80% of what's on the road right now. (straightline only, of course ) It makes a 5000lb. behemoth not seem quite so cumbersome.
Thus, you think you're faster than 80% of what is on the road right now. Meaning, you think that you're in the 20th percentile of "fast cars". You're not. No way, no how.
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I would never say I was in the top 20% of "fast cars". Why did you completely reword my statement? I still stick to my original statement, 80% of what's on the road.
do you understand what you are saying?
Dear lord.
Do you know how many SUVs there are on the roads? do you know how many trucks there are on the road? do you know how many economy cars there are on the road? do you know how many base model versions of all cars there are on the road? Commercial trucks?
Its a completely unprovable point. I'd say 80% of whats on the road. Call me crazy. I might be delusional. I don't think i know what i'm saying at all. Care to enlighten?
You're right, I goofed on the "20the percentile statement". I can see how that can confuse you.
My point was this:
You're NOT faster than 80% of automobiles, period....no way, no how.
Does that make more sense?
It's not like it's a bad thing man...'burbans are not designed to be speed demons anyway...
I think you're crazy to buy a Suburban with gas prices the way that they are...but it's your $$$....do what you want with it.
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Pablo
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Still slow.
Compared to what?
Anything that doesn't weigh 3 tons.
Agreed...
There's this wonderful concept called: Power-to-Weight Ratio.
While the your Suburban has a fair amount of horsepower...it's still a heavy son-of-a-bitch...
You're not as fast as you think you are.
And tell me, oh psychic one, just how fast do I think I am? Read my thoughts for me. It has a lot more power than stock, that's all i'm saying.
I'm not psychic. I simply have reading comprehension.
Did you not say:
Its a good mix for me. Its no rocket, but it'd outrun 80% of what's on the road right now. (straightline only, of course ) It makes a 5000lb. behemoth not seem quite so cumbersome.
Thus, you think you're faster than 80% of what is on the road right now. Meaning, you think that you're in the 20th percentile of "fast cars". You're not. No way, no how.
![]()
I would never say I was in the top 20% of "fast cars". Why did you completely reword my statement? I still stick to my original statement, 80% of what's on the road.
do you understand what you are saying?
Dear lord.
Do you know how many SUVs there are on the roads? do you know how many trucks there are on the road? do you know how many economy cars there are on the road? do you know how many base model versions of all cars there are on the road? Commercial trucks?
Its a completely unprovable point. I'd say 80% of whats on the road. Call me crazy. I might be delusional. I don't think i know what i'm saying at all. Care to enlighten?
You're right, I goofed on the "20the percentile statement". I can see how that can confuse you.
My point was this:
You're NOT faster than 80% of automobiles, period....no way, no how.
Does that make more sense?
It's not like it's a bad thing man...'burbans are not designed to be speed demons anyway...
I think you're crazy to buy a Suburban with gas prices the way that they are...but it's your $$$....do what you want with it.
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
power to weight ratio of a civic, and i'm not exaggerating. do the math.
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
400hp in an automatic 5000lb vehicle translates to 300whp and a weight-to-power of 16.67.
Converted to my car it would mean having 20hp more than I do right now. You can check my sig for performance numbers. Shave ~.3s from my car's times. I think that's a pretty decent guesstimate for yours.
Originally posted by: letdown427
400Hp and 475lb ft? That must be like a 15litre engine then I presume? How much does that weigh anyway? about 5000lbs?
If you took the engine from that, put it in a bathtub with wheels, THEN you'd have a car to be proud of, and definately no soccer mum comments. Promise.
