<< What about the military ballots that Gore had excluded to protect his narrow loss?!?!?!? >>
You keep forgetting is was Bush's Florida Campaign Co-Chair, and Florida Secretary of State, Supervisor of Elections, that wrote the memo that told the counties NOT to count military votes if they weren't postmarked. She and others were just pointing out what the Florida law said.
Chariston, what exactly do you call changing absentee ballots so they are then counted? Don't you dare say, "Let the votes be counted" or I'll have to go back to my rantings of West Palm Beach, the majority, and the obvious "questionable" beavior" by both sides.
ride: The law said that ballots needed to have postmarks, NOT MILITARY BALLOTS. A soldier hands his ballot over to the postmaster of his ship or base and if that guy doesn't have the means to properly postmark it, it's to be thrown out. The ballots would be valid if it's signed and witnessed by the appropriate date, BUT, the Goreistas chose to throw them out, to disenfranchise our servicemen, because they knew that their only chance to steal this election was to keep the margin as close as possible so that they could "find" the votes to make up the difference.
How ironic. The Goreistas who have had no problem demanding that their puppets on the SCOFLA fabricate unConstitutional ex post facto laws for them, suddenly become sticklers for the "rule of law"! Laughable, if it weren't so pathetic.
How ironic. The Goreistas who have had no problem demanding that their puppets on the SCOFLA fabricate unConstitutional ex post facto laws for them, suddenly become sticklers for the "rule of law"! Laughable, if it weren't so pathetic.
Goreistas: Play on the word "Sandanistas", the Communists who used to run Nicaragua. Made it up myself. Thanks for asking!
<< The law said that ballots needed to have postmarks, NOT MILITARY BALLOTS. >>
The law says OVERSEAS ballots, which includes military. I don't know how the military postmarks, someone else can help me out here. I think many of the military ballots did have postmarks though.
XeroxMan:
All the states count ALL the ballots unless they are illegal, disputed, or unreadable. The attempt by Etech, Althanasius, and you to impugn Gore's win of the popular vote is yet another truly wretched attempt by the right wing to re-write history before it is cold. This is called "Listening to Limbaugh" syndrome. Take two dozen Prozac and smoke 5 joints immediately. Call me when your social security check comes in.
Anyway, name one state that hasn't counted an absentee ballot because it wouldn't change the outcome.
I didn't think you could.
All the states count ALL the ballots unless they are illegal, disputed, or unreadable. The attempt by Etech, Althanasius, and you to impugn Gore's win of the popular vote is yet another truly wretched attempt by the right wing to re-write history before it is cold. This is called "Listening to Limbaugh" syndrome. Take two dozen Prozac and smoke 5 joints immediately. Call me when your social security check comes in.
Anyway, name one state that hasn't counted an absentee ballot because it wouldn't change the outcome.
I didn't think you could.
Sandinistas... weren't these guys Bush's suppliers?
I kinda remember something about his dad exchanging old weapons for some shinny new coke. I think they got jyped at the end, man.
Now could someone clarify what's the deal with the two other lawsuits? I read something about people illegally adding stuff to the ballot to make it legal. Is that much different than counting pregnant chads that the machines considered illegal?
BTW, I got a bag full of Florida absentee votes with me. The only problem is that they don't have a postmark, signature, or voter registration numbers on them. But I'm sure they reflect the will of the people and we could have the misssing stuff filled by no later than Sunday morning, when we need to stop to go to church and pray. For our sins....
I kinda remember something about his dad exchanging old weapons for some shinny new coke. I think they got jyped at the end, man.
Now could someone clarify what's the deal with the two other lawsuits? I read something about people illegally adding stuff to the ballot to make it legal. Is that much different than counting pregnant chads that the machines considered illegal?
BTW, I got a bag full of Florida absentee votes with me. The only problem is that they don't have a postmark, signature, or voter registration numbers on them. But I'm sure they reflect the will of the people and we could have the misssing stuff filled by no later than Sunday morning, when we need to stop to go to church and pray. For our sins....
<< I read something about people illegally adding stuff to the ballot to make it legal. Is that much different than counting pregnant chads that the machines considered illegal? >>
You have the first part correct. And a court ruled that the will of the voter should prevail, over the illegalities.
In the second instance, the vote is not illegal. The machine wasn't able to count a vote for any candidate. So, that is why a manual check of the ballot will check to see if there is a vote there or not.
The inventor of the machine said you need to do manual recounts in close elections. Bush's own witness said last weeekend you need to do manual recounts in close elections.
Bush may still win. He is ahead by over 150 votes.
<< I read something about people illegally adding stuff to the ballot to make it legal. Is that much different than counting pregnant chads that the machines considered illegal? >>
Ride525 "You have the first part correct. And a court ruled that the will of the voter should prevail, over the illegalities."
No, that is incorrect. It was the absetee ballot applications that were corrected. Both the Republicans and the democrats sent out preprinted applications, the printer the Republicans used screwed up the voter ID numbers. The numbers were corrected. The democrats did not have the error and did not have to correct their applications. That is all.
Ride525 "You have the first part correct. And a court ruled that the will of the voter should prevail, over the illegalities."
No, that is incorrect. It was the absetee ballot applications that were corrected. Both the Republicans and the democrats sent out preprinted applications, the printer the Republicans used screwed up the voter ID numbers. The numbers were corrected. The democrats did not have the error and did not have to correct their applications. That is all.
<< No, that is incorrect. It was the absetee ballot applications that were corrected. Both the Republicans and the democrats sent out preprinted applications, the printer the Republicans used screwed up the voter ID numbers. The numbers were corrected. The democrats did not have the error and did not have to correct their applications. That is all. >>
(Even though I knew I didn't notice the previous person hadn't said they were applications.) You are correct. Except, that it should be added that it is against Florida law for this to be done.
The applications were going to be thrown out otherwise. They had already been filled out by the voter. It is against Florida law for the information to be added in this manner.
Hopefully, all will see it is ALSO important for the undervotes to be CORRECTLY counted too.
However, the judges ruled that it was more important to see the ballots were counted, rather than throw them out over this technicality.
Stay tuned. The U.S. Supreme Court is going to overturn this. And, I predict they will deliver a scathing opinion of the Florda S.C. decision, unlike last time where they politely vacated the decision and sent it back for review if the Florida court wanted to attempt to rule again.
anything that makes republican writhe in pain is good. You get to see how mean they act haha.. mean.
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