Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe

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Al Gore has spoken: The world must embrace a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." To do otherwise, he says, will result in a cataclysmic catastrophe. "Humanity is sitting on a ticking time bomb," warns the website for his film, An Inconvenient Truth. "We have just 10 years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet into a tailspin."

Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb their carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs, use a clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy, dramatically cut back on consumption. Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore's example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world's role model for ecology, the planet is doomed.

For someone who says the sky is falling, he does very little. He says he recycles and drives a hybrid. And he claims he uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film. (In reality, Paramount Classics, the film's distributor, pays this.)

Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself.

Then there is the troubling matter of his energy use. In the Washington, D.C., area, utility companies offer wind energy as an alternative to traditional energy. In Nashville, similar programs exist. Utility customers must simply pay a few extra pennies per kilowatt hour, and they can continue living their carbon-neutral lifestyles knowing that they are supporting wind energy. Plenty of businesses and institutions have signed up. Even the Bush administration is using green energy for some federal office buildings, as are thousands of area residents.

But according to public records, there is no evidence that Gore has signed up to use green energy in either of his large residences. When contacted Wednesday, Gore's office confirmed as much but said the Gores were looking into making the switch at both homes. Talk about inconvenient truths.

Gore is not alone.
Democratic National Committee Chairman
Howard Dean has said, "Global warming is happening, and it threatens our very existence." The DNC website applauds the fact that Gore has "tried to move people to act." Yet, astoundingly, Gore's persuasive powers have failed to convince his own party: The DNC has not signed up to pay an additional two pennies a kilowatt hour to go green. For that matter, neither has the
Republican National Committee.

Maybe our very existence isn't threatened.

Gore has held these apocalyptic views about the environment for some time. So why, then, didn't Gore dump his family's large stock holdings in Occidental (Oxy) Petroleum? As executor of his family's trust, over the years Gore has controlled hundreds of thousands of dollars in Oxy stock. Oxy has been mired in controversy over oil drilling in ecologically sensitive areas.

Living carbon-neutral apparently doesn't mean living oil-stock free. Nor does it necessarily mean giving up a mining royalty either.

Humanity might be "sitting on a ticking time bomb," but Gore's home in Carthage is sitting on a zinc mine. Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River.

The issue here is not simply Gore's hypocrisy; it's a question of credibility. If he genuinely believes the apocalyptic vision he has put forth and calls for radical changes in the way other people live, why hasn't he made any radical change in his life? Giving up the zinc mine or one of his homes is not asking much, given that he wants the rest of us to radically change our lives.


It's hardly an uncommon occurrence of a politicial not putting his money where his mouth is. Just a footnote that perhaps could be added to his film?

Perhaps if Congress had to live like normal Americans, pay into the SS/Medicare black hole like normal Americans, and didn't automatically get raises like normal Americans, some of our nation's issues could be solved.
 

Genx87

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Well I think that is obvious, the guy is calling himself the champion for the enviornment. Where the hell was he when he had a seat in the white house for 8 years?

 

NeoV

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lame, lame attempt at changing the focus of the film, which for some moronic reason is now a political issue

Al Gore has been talking about and taking action on environmental issues long before he was the VP, before it was 'cool' to be green-minded.

Is it not worth spending some money and some jet fuel to try and spread the word about his film?

Go ahead and keep your head buried in your party's 4ss, pretend everything is ok, and go away already.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: NeoV
lame, lame attempt at changing the focus of the film, which for some moronic reason is now a political issue

Al Gore has been talking about and taking action on environmental issues long before he was the VP, before it was 'cool' to be green-minded.

Is it not worth spending some money and some jet fuel to try and spread the word about his film?

Go ahead and keep your head buried in your party's 4ss, pretend everything is ok, and go away already.

Amazing how he fell pretty much silet about the enviornment when he and Clinton got elected.

A real champion isnt he?
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: NeoV
Is it not worth spending some money and some jet fuel to try and spread the word about his film?

Go ahead and keep your head buried in your party's 4ss, pretend everything is ok, and go away already.

Did you miss the part about his 14000+ sq ft in housing?
 

CaptnKirk

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<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.hoover.org/bios/schweizer/">Suprise, suprise . . . a Conservative Political Hack, not unlike the Coulter-guist.
He makes his living writing attack articles on Democrats while praising the Legacy of Reagan the Braindead</a>
 

ayabe

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This is my fav book of his:

Reagan's War: The Epic Story of His Forty-Year Struggle and Final Triumph over Communism

I love Ronny, can't wait for him to replace FDR on the dime. :disgust:
 

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Thats the best you can do? HAHAHAHAHA. He doesn't use green energy in his house? Oh no! He has 2 houses! I guess that means he doesn't want to help the environment! HAHAHAHA. That is so sad!
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: slash196
The movie isn't about Al Gore, it's about global warming.


Don't confuse the 'Z-boy' - having a monorail mind jump the track is a terrible thing to see.

 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Well I think that is obvious, the guy is calling himself the champion for the enviornment. Where the hell was he when he had a seat in the white house for 8 years?




Gen, you ignorant slut....


Where do you get off spouting so much drivel, without the slightest inkling to fact check first?
 

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seriously Gen, you don't want to be grouped in with Zendari under any circumstances. Do some research before you spout off.....
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: slash196
The movie isn't about Al Gore, it's about global warming.

Considering he uses words like "humanity is sitting on a time bomb" and he tells consumers to "change their lives", seems like he wants this movie to be about all of us.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: slash196
The movie isn't about Al Gore, it's about global warming.

Considering he uses words like "humanity is sitting on a time bomb" and he tells consumers to "change their lives", seems like he wants this movie to be about all of us.


Not nearly as bad as Dennis Hastert driving a hybrid 2 blocks until out of sight of the cameras then switching to his enormous SUV caravan.

you guys can nitpick Al all you want, but he invented the internets and can take it down at any time, so watch what you say.
 

Todd33

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I wasn't aware Gore was the poster child for green, I thought he was just a spokesman for Global Warming. He is supposed to live in a grass hut and ride a bike around the world? He is trying to spread a message to millions of people, I think that will offset his *gasp* big house.

This just in Zentroll, Republicans get divorced - where are those family values and the sanctity of marriage?
 

Gigantopithecus

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Al Gore's a hypocrite? That's news?

"An Inconvenient Truth" was full of half-truths, convenient omissions, and genuinely alarmist. However, anyone who thinks we can keep going the way we've been going is a fool, plain and simple.

Those of us who actually take the initiative to educate ourselves about the environment, ecology, climatology, etc. already know what we need to do to make a difference. Our 'leaders' are largely useless. We're the ones who make the difference. The EPA's website (epa.gov) has literally pages & pages of accessible, easy-to-implement suggestions for living a 'greener' life. I hope those of you criticizing the OP pay a few cents more per kilowatt hour for green(er) energy, recycle the junk mail you get, reuse glass containers, look for the energy star sticker on appliances, etc.
 

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Thats the best you can do? HAHAHAHAHA. He doesn't use green energy in his house? Oh no! He has 2 houses! I guess that means he doesn't want to help the environment! HAHAHAHA. That is so sad!

This is what the other side do when caught with their pants down. But again this is what they do best. But again, their motto is "Everybody do as I say except for me"

 

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Originally posted by: zendari
Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe
Gore also invested a lot of time and his personal credibility in bringing the issue of global warming to a higher profile in a clear, concise, understandable way in his film, and the boxoffice success of "An Inconvenient Truth" has produced a lot of money for the effort to further the move toward a greener society.
Paramount Classics To Donate An Unprecedented One Million Dollars To Fight Global Warming
August 4th, 2006

Paramount Classics announced today that ?An Inconvenient Truth? has grossed over $20 million dollars, making it the #4 highest grossing documentary of all time. As part of the campaign to encourage audiences to see ?An Inconvenient Truth,? Classics made an unprecedented pledge of 5% of all box office receipts to be donated to The Alliance for Climate Protection. With the success of the film, that donation will exceed $1 million dollars.

?We are enormously grateful for Paramount Classics? contribution to the work of the Alliance,? said Larry Schweiger, President Co-Chair, Alliance for Climate Protection. ?Reaching the $20 million threshold is phenomenal for a documentary film on climate change, a monumental tribute to Al Gore?s vision and tireless work on this issue, and to Paramount Classics and Participant Productions for their courage in producing this important film and bringing it to millions of Americans who are learning the truth about global warming.?

?It has been thrilling to watch this important movie become a grassroots phenomenon,? said Paramount Classics President John Lesher. ?People are buying group tickets to see the film and having discussion groups afterwards to talk about the lessons learned from the movie. Audiences who love the film are purchasing tickets for those who are still skeptical about the issue. And major corporations have bought tickets for their employees; it is pretty incredible.?

?We are thrilled that our documentary, ?An Inconvenient Truth,? has reached this milestone,? said Jeff Skoll, Chairman and CEO of Participant Productions. ?Equally important has been the incredible response to the film?s social action campaign, which has inspired people across the country to take individual action and make a difference in their own communities.?

?An Inconvenient Truth,? was produced by Participant Productions, which had previously pledged to contribute all of their profits to the Alliance, and was acquired by Paramount Classics at the 2006 Sundance Film Festival. The film opened in New York and Los Angeles on May 24.

The Alliance for Climate Protection will also receive 100% of Al Gore?s proceeds from the film and the companion book ?An Inconvenient Truth? (Rodale), a pledge he made prior to release.
zendari -- Why don't you tell us what you've done to help the situation? AFIK, the only thing you've done to make anything green is to make everyone else sick from your inane, petulant little tirades against reality. :laugh:
 

Starbuck1975

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Thats the best you can do? HAHAHAHAHA. He doesn't use green energy in his house? Oh no! He has 2 houses! I guess that means he doesn't want to help the environment! HAHAHAHA. That is so sad!
Ok I'll bite.

Gore's environmental film talks of catastrophic consequences if the human race does not take drastic measures to address environmental concerns, particularly our consumption and subsequent pollution created by the burning of fossil fuels.

Given the emminent thread of environmental catastrophy presented by his film, it would stand to reason that to achieve Gore's vision, it will require IMMEDIATE and SUBSTANTIAL sacrifices by all Americans...that every small step in changing behavioral patterns in terms of our energy usage will help save the environment...it is not a logical leap to assume that if someone chooses to be a proponent of such a message, they should practice what they preach.

That Gore is not taking Green steps in his personal energy consumption choices is a pretty big red flag.

George Carlin has a great skit that talks about political hypocrisy, particularly when it comes to liberals...with the punchline being "not in my backyard!"

Oh, and this thread needs more Manbearpig.
 

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Originally posted by: Harvey
zendari -- Why don't you tell us what you've done to help the situation? AFIK, the only thing you've done to make anything green is to make everyone else sick from your inane, petulant little tirades against reality. :laugh:

I wonder why we feed the troll. We can all recognize that Zen has a very simple minded agenda. R=good, D=bad. It's a black & white world out there. Reality checks be damned.

I recognize global warming is a debatable subject, but the simple truth is that we cannot change the flow of energy in nature and not face the consequences. After all energy cannot be created. The sum total remains the same. We only change the forms as we use earth's resources. And supply of any resurce is not infinite. IMHO the sooner we switch to renewable sources the longer they will last.

 

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Originally posted by: Todd33
I wasn't aware Gore was the poster child for green, I thought he was just a spokesman for Global Warming. He is supposed to live in a grass hut and ride a bike around the world? He is trying to spread a message to millions of people, I think that will offset his *gasp* big house.

This just in Zentroll, Republicans get divorced - where are those family values and the sanctity of marriage?

That is what he wants everyone else to do. Why shouldn't he?

You think that spreading the word 'offsets' his big house??? Are we supposed to suffer, conserve, and live like peasants so that Mr. AL GORE can have his mansions??? Is that what you are saying? Al Gore is a hypocrite trying to push his own agendas. The guy is a pimple on society's left butt cheek.
 

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I see no reason why Gore shouldn't be put under the spotlight. What is wrong with pointing out that 14,000 sq feet probably has a pretty big energy bill. Think how much energy could be saved, for example, if we grounded Air Force One and made Bush ride his bike.
 

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I think that the right wing/republican think tanks read the same article that I did earlier today or yesterday.....

Lamont's victory against Leiberman has sent a clear message that the best chance to win the '08 nomination is someone that is anti-war. And just what Dem has been more vocal than Gore on the national level that isn't severely damaged goods? Better start the smears and discrediting now before he gets a stronghold. After all, he already won the first popular vote for president that he was involved in even with the Repub "he's a liar" machine after him in full force.
 

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Todd33
I wasn't aware Gore was the poster child for green, I thought he was just a spokesman for Global Warming. He is supposed to live in a grass hut and ride a bike around the world? He is trying to spread a message to millions of people, I think that will offset his *gasp* big house.

This just in Zentroll, Republicans get divorced - where are those family values and the sanctity of marriage?

That is what he wants everyone else to do. Why shouldn't he?

You think that spreading the word 'offsets' his big house??? Are we supposed to suffer, conserve, and live like peasants so that Mr. AL GORE can have his mansions??? Is that what you are saying? Al Gore is a hypocrite trying to push his own agendas. The guy is a pimple on society's left butt cheek.

Actually the book and movie present the problem but is not about solutions. Do you have quotes or proof that Gore asked us to "supposed to suffer, conserve, and live like peasants"?

The guy donated all money from the book and movie and now you guys attack him because he owns a big house? Get a life guys.