Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe

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XZeroII

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Todd33
I wasn't aware Gore was the poster child for green, I thought he was just a spokesman for Global Warming. He is supposed to live in a grass hut and ride a bike around the world? He is trying to spread a message to millions of people, I think that will offset his *gasp* big house.

This just in Zentroll, Republicans get divorced - where are those family values and the sanctity of marriage?

That is what he wants everyone else to do. Why shouldn't he?

You think that spreading the word 'offsets' his big house??? Are we supposed to suffer, conserve, and live like peasants so that Mr. AL GORE can have his mansions??? Is that what you are saying? Al Gore is a hypocrite trying to push his own agendas. The guy is a pimple on society's left butt cheek.

Actually the book and movie present the problem but is not about solutions. Do you have quotes or proof that Gore asked us to "supposed to suffer, conserve, and live like peasants"?

The guy donated all money from the book and movie and now you guys attack him because he owns a big house? Get a life guys.

You implied it above.

And yes, I do attack him for it. Read the original post. He doesn't even get his money from environmentally sound places. People like that are called hypocrites and deserve these attacks.
 

phatj

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because he has large houses he isn't "green"?

and because there is no "record" of him using "wind energy" he doesn't?

i dont think that what people pay for utilities is public record.... the article doesn't even state that he DOESN'T use wind energy it just states there is no proof that he DOESNT

sounds like some republican jargon

 

Jeff7

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If it's true, it does irritate me that people don't do what they talk about. Gore speaks of population control, yet he has 4 kids. Maybe he does have these two houses, and yes, 14,000sq feet of combined living space does sound quite excessive. My parents raised two kids in a house with a total of 2,000sq feet - one floor and a basement. I don't think I'm scarred for life as a result.
While I do applaud his efforts to get people on the right track to keep humanity from screwing itself over by wrecking what amounts to our habitat, it'd be nice if he'd take his own advice.
 

Thump553

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A zendari thread is a lot like a Tiger Direct thread in Hot Deals-lots of smoke and heat, no substance.
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: zendari
It's hardly an uncommon occurrence of a politicial not putting his money where his mouth is. Just a footnote that perhaps could be added to his film?

Perhaps if Congress had to live like normal Americans, pay into the SS/Medicare black hole like normal Americans, and didn't automatically get raises like normal Americans, some of our nation's issues could be solved.

Holy crap!! I never thought you for one to think realistically! this is good stuff.. I just hope you know it applies to rePubicans and demoCrooks

 

DealMonkey

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Dubya spouts off about needing to wean ourselves off foreign oil, but wastes vast sums of jet fuel and regular fuel just doing his job. As do many politicians. So what?
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: ayabe
This is my fav book of his:

Reagan's War: The Epic Story of His Forty-Year Struggle and Final Triumph over Communism

I love Ronny, can't wait for him to replace FDR on the dime. :disgust:

I wonder when that 40 years starts.

In the mid30s he was a radio sportscaster . . . fighting those Commies.

He spent the next 30 years making over 50 movies . . . fighting those Commies. According to Warner Bros only Errol Flynn got more fan mail . . . keeping those Commies busy writing.

During WWII, he narrated training films for the military. What a hero.

After the war, he worked the nightclub circuit. I guess Commies only come out at night.

He divorced Jane Wyman in 1948 . . . I guess she was a Commie. Nevermind she dumped him.

His most significant achievement in the 1960s was having the Guard fire on hippies in Berkeley.

 

charrison

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.hoover.org/bios/schweizer/">Suprise, suprise . . . a Conservative Political Hack, not unlike the Coulter-guist.
He makes his living writing attack articles on Democrats while praising the Legacy of Reagan the Braindead</a>

But is anything he said false? Why does he not gore not practise what he is preaching?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I see no reason why Gore shouldn't be put under the spotlight. What is wrong with pointing out that 14,000 sq feet probably has a pretty big energy bill. Think how much energy could be saved, for example, if we grounded Air Force One and made Bush ride his bike.
Blind partisan bickering aside, it's very hard for me to respect someone who talks the talk but don't walk the walk. "Do as I say, not as I do," don't cut it for me from anyone.

It's no surprise to me that you and I agree on this, Moonie.
 

quizzelsnatch

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Does it matter? Even if Gore isn't as green as he leads people to believe, does it really matter? What is the point of this thread anyways? Because Gore doesn't do what he says everybody else should do, does that mean that ALL of us don't have to do what he says? Or, shouldn't do what he says? I agree that it's hypocritical of him, however, the point is relatively moot in this matter.
 

myocardia

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If it weren't for the fact that the guy who wrote the article thinks GW sh1ts gold, I might wonder. But the simple fact of the matter is, there are absolutely no records kept, in any state that I'm aware of, as to who has solar and/or wind power at their house. I can guarantee you people that Al Gore has been a politician long enough to realize that even if he didn't believe it, he would have alternative energy installed at at least his primary residence, before he even started filming this movie.

You don't have to pay more for your electricity to be able to use solar/wind power, you can have the local electric company send you a check every month, for the electricity you put back into the grid over and above what you've used.;)
 

CaptnKirk

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If the care for the Vice President's Mansion is any indication of how Al Gore treats the environment
I would bet that his 'other' homes are done as well and incorporate much 'green friendly' conveeniences.

The Vice President's Residence at the Naval Observatory

This is now the housing project for the Cheney creature, and it would not supprise me if all the trees
have been chopped down for firewood, to allow access to heavy equipment for strip mining.

Cheney's Bedroom
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: slash196
The movie isn't about Al Gore, it's about global warming.

Considering he uses words like "humanity is sitting on a time bomb" and he tells consumers to "change their lives", seems like he wants this movie to be about all of us.


Not nearly as bad as Dennis Hastert driving a hybrid 2 blocks until out of sight of the cameras then switching to his enormous SUV caravan.

you guys can nitpick Al all you want, but he invented the internets and can take it down at any time, so watch what you say.

Dennis Hastert made a movie about being green? BTW nancy Pelosi did the same thing with SUVs.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I think that the right wing/republican think tanks read the same article that I did earlier today or yesterday.....

Lamont's victory against Leiberman has sent a clear message that the best chance to win the '08 nomination is someone that is anti-war. And just what Dem has been more vocal than Gore on the national level that isn't severely damaged goods? Better start the smears and discrediting now before he gets a stronghold. After all, he already won the first popular vote for president that he was involved in even with the Repub "he's a liar" machine after him in full force.

I never read any such article. This is about the movie, not the 08 election.

For the record, I haven't done anything for global warming Harvey, as I don't give a sh!t.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: zendari
It's hardly an uncommon occurrence of a politicial not putting his money where his mouth is. Just a footnote that perhaps could be added to his film?

Perhaps if Congress had to live like normal Americans, pay into the SS/Medicare black hole like normal Americans, and didn't automatically get raises like normal Americans, some of our nation's issues could be solved.

Holy crap!! I never thought you for one to think realistically! this is good stuff.. I just hope you know it applies to rePubicans and demoCrooks

Of course it does.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I think that the right wing/republican think tanks read the same article that I did earlier today or yesterday.....

Lamont's victory against Leiberman has sent a clear message that the best chance to win the '08 nomination is someone that is anti-war. And just what Dem has been more vocal than Gore on the national level that isn't severely damaged goods? Better start the smears and discrediting now before he gets a stronghold. After all, he already won the first popular vote for president that he was involved in even with the Repub "he's a liar" machine after him in full force.

Uh no... Lieberman's loss sent a clear message that the new internet blogger-based Democratic party will not tolerate any deviance from their extremist party agenda. In other words, the Democratic centrists just got booted from the party.

As to the war, I'm a pacifist who was strongly against it while most of the so-called Democrats here still believed in the WMDs. The ONLY reason we're there is so that the defense industry has jobs. That's what it's all about. Haven't you people figured that out yet?
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: slash196
The movie isn't about Al Gore, it's about global warming.

Right, and in typical Democrat fashion..
"WE MUST CHANGE!! WE'LL ALL DIE IF WE DONT!! *whisper* I mean....YOU all must change, but I will continue on"

Typical Democratic bullsh1t. Everyone ELSE needs to make sacrafices and make changes, but *I* dont have to, only you.

I'm sorry, but if your trying to be the champion of the cause it looks pretty frickin bad to not adopt the changes you call for.
It would be like me being anti-gun.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: slash196
The movie isn't about Al Gore, it's about global warming.

Considering he uses words like "humanity is sitting on a time bomb" and he tells consumers to "change their lives", seems like he wants this movie to be about all of us.


Not nearly as bad as Dennis Hastert driving a hybrid 2 blocks until out of sight of the cameras then switching to his enormous SUV caravan.

you guys can nitpick Al all you want, but he invented the internets and can take it down at any time, so watch what you say.

Dennis Hastert made a movie about being green? BTW nancy Pelosi did the same thing with SUVs.


Al Gore made a movie about being green?

No.

Again you defend your boys by pointing to other politicians.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Al Gore made a movie about being green?

No.

Again you defend your boys by pointing to other politicians.

What would you describe this film as?

"Corporate America must face up to green and ethical challenges if they are to avoid disaster, former US Vice President Al Gore has told the BBC."

Text
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: ayabe
Al Gore made a movie about being green?

No.

Again you defend your boys by pointing to other politicians.

What would you describe this film as?

"Corporate America must face up to green and ethical challenges if they are to avoid disaster, former US Vice President Al Gore has told the BBC."

Text

Wow, you even found a quote that didn't back up your point and conflicts with your OP, grats!

Yes, he wants government to pressure corporations via regulations. Did he say live in a small house and sell your cars? He has done more to help global warming by spreading the message than 10,000 individuals who go 100% green. He has pushed the global warming discussion into the mainstream and soon back into politics, that was his goal.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: ayabe
Al Gore made a movie about being green?

No.

Again you defend your boys by pointing to other politicians.

What would you describe this film as?

"Corporate America must face up to green and ethical challenges if they are to avoid disaster, former US Vice President Al Gore has told the BBC."

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Have you seen the movie? I have.

His purpose is to draw attention to the subject, he isn't mandating from on high that we all start riding our bicycles 20 miles to work and making our own electricity through a human hamster wheel. He wants to crack down on the big polluters who are the major cause of this problem.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: ayabe
Al Gore made a movie about being green?

No.

Again you defend your boys by pointing to other politicians.

What would you describe this film as?

"Corporate America must face up to green and ethical challenges if they are to avoid disaster, former US Vice President Al Gore has told the BBC."

Text

Wow, you even found a quote that didn't back up your point and conflicts with your OP, grats!

Yes, he wants government to pressure corporations via regulations. Did he say live in a small house and sell your cars? He has done more to help global warming by spreading the message than 10,000 individuals who go 100% green. He has pushed the global warming discussion into the mainstream and soon back into politics, that was his goal.

He said to "dramatically cut back on consumption". Going from 14000 sq ft to 3000 might do a decent job at that. How much does it cost to heat those homes?

Oh, and guess who owns hundreds of thousands of dollars of stock in those corporations and profits off non-greenery?