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Gore is beating Bush to a bloody pulp

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That's a pretty good assessment, MrChicken. I basically feel the same way. Russ brings up a good point too, in that there are alot of people who will punish Gore for the sins of Clinton.

When it comes down to it, I don't think Gore is presidential material. He may be a smart guy, and maybe he really wants to get things done, but I don't see him as being able to do it.
 
Mr. Chicken, well said!
I think that is an important point. Bush will try to build a consenses on important matters and get something done. Gore seems to irratate people, I don't think much will be accomplished if he is elected(that might be a good thing).


Red, you'r flip-flopping more then Gore.
I think you are referring to his oil business. Many oil companies went broke at that time. Can you say no national energy policy.

Bush has been in private business and understands the problems that entails. Where has Gore been the last 24 years?

 


<< I guess it doesn't matter that he was a failed Business owner who needed his Daddy to bail him out. >>



Red,

Sad that you actually know so little of his business background. You should watch PBS occasionally. Sometimes even they screw up and tell the truth. His Father had nothing to do with him turning the worthless, losing Rangers in to winners. He busted his ass, and was on the field every game guiding them to success.

Players, Managers and EVERYONE involved unfailingly give him the credit for turning a losing franchise around. His Dad had nothing to do with it.

BORE has been a government lackey his entire career.

Russ, NCNE
 
If I was doing a Bush impression I would wipe up the floor with you in this debate, but I had an eleven hour day at work fixing a 20 year old computer so forgive me if I stumble now and then.



&quot;What about my assertion that Bush is actually a Washington Insider with an empahasis on Special Interests and the Lobbyiests. &quot;

It's innuendo with no documentation, no backing and no proof. Not worth answering to.

How about this?

A9 Newwire post
by Chet Moonshot
It has been alleged that Pres. Clinton, VP. Gore and Attorney General Reno were involved in a love tryst that produced an alien baby. Notice the resemblence of Gores shifty eyes to those of the baby, the hair also appears to be his. Clinton appears to have donated the weak chin while Reno must take credit for the rest of the babys appearance. The FBI is reported to be investigating this matter. The Air Force special Blue Book team has denied that Gore's stoney appearance is actually a facial mask hiding his true identity. Attorny General Reno when asked about this matter looked shocked, gasped and then refused to answer any more of the reporters questions.&quot;


So how would you refute that story? How much would you be willing to bet that with some concerted effort that you could get some people to belive this was true?

It's kind of like the people that believe Gov. Bush is stupid or snorted cocaine. Some people will believe anything, especially if they want to belive or are biased in the first place.

It's also very hard to defend ones self against these baseless type of attacks.



Thanks to the person from whom I borrowed the pic.
 
Another coal for the fire, Gore flatly denied Bush's claim that he is increasing spending by a huge amount. The MSNBC truth squad, said the he does have the largest spending increase since LBJ.

And another, Bush said that the number of uninsured have been increasing under Gore's administration. The truth squad said that Bush was right and wrong. It was true that until last year the number of unisured had risen, but last year it did go down. 6 years of increases and one year of a decrease.

I think that the results of this debate will have to measured in the next week when this is rehashed all over the country.

One thing stands out though, Gore on the attack shows that he feels he is losing.
 
Russ, If you listened to PBS sometime you'd know that Bush and his fellow co investors got the stadium built (AT WHOSE EXPENSE) and cashed out. Nice business to use your political muscle to fatten yourself. My kinda guy.
 
Ahem.

Vote.com

Total Votes: 20,726

percent votes

Al Gore (1,618)
(8%)
George W. Bush (19,108)
(92%)




 
I still bet I could get someone to belive my story. Look at how many readers there are of the Nat. Enquier and that sort of rag.(At least I didn't use your pic Red. I thought about it though 😉 )

Red
I look at it like the Big Lie theory, tell the same tale to enough people and somehow it starts to have some credance. That is what I dislike about some of your Bush comments. There is no evidence to back them up in my opinion, but repeat them enough times and some will start to believe them.

Do I KNOW that Gov. Bush will make a perfect president. No. But I do agree with the majority of his plans and ideals for the nation. I think that he can handle any crisis as well if not better then Gore.
 
Here we go again, DanC! 😉

Same predictable breakdown as last time. Why? Same people voted (white, generally affluent, convervative FOX-watchers), the same way as before. And again I submit to you this poll does not reflect a true, neutral random sampling. No other poll with any shade of credibility would show a 92/8% split! It's still a close race by all accounts.
 
Watching MSNBC, Alan Simpson (R) brought up something I think we should also consider.

To paraphrase him, since I cant remener his exact words, he said that Al Gore was doing his very best to bait Bush into a down and dirty debate fight, and he couldnt.

I've been trying to decide how to describe when Al Gore walked up to Bush in the debate while Bush was speaking. Well my gut reaction was that he was going to simply keep walking and bump Bush, just like a schoolyard bully would. I think I'll stay with that, it was an attempt to bait Bush into getting beligerant back at him, and Bush just stood above it.

This also says something about leadership. Sure Gore looks stronger based upon his aggressiveness, but do we really want that? Or do we want a guy who cant be baited into conflict? It would have been much easier for Bush to attack back, but he was to stay above that and hold the attacks down to civil levels.

I might have been tempted to shove Gore out of my face, but I admire a guy who can resist that temptation. I would prefer that the guy with his finger on the button that ends the world, be able to resist that temptation also.

We cant bully the rest of the world anymore, the Teddy Roosevelt days are long past, we need leader that can work with people and not just push them around.
 
Yawn.

All the postulating in the world doesn't change the 230 pound Albatross. See ya at the polls.
 
MrChicken,

This may surprise you but tripleshot and chess9 will soon be here to utterly refute your interpretation of that event.

All of our views are slanted and tainted. Only a profound collective bowel movement of the brain will save us.
 
JellyBaby

The debate did all the talking for me. It's plain to see who has the smiley, good 'ol boy, let me be your friend personality and the assertive, full command of the issues,total awareness of global and domestic events and policies persona---Gore won this hands down and deserves your vote on November 7th,2000.

I want a President that will stay the course,not rock the boat of economic prosperity all of us have enjoyed oveer the last 8 years,will protect the social security system and medicare,provide tax relief to those who truly need it,protect the environment from being raped by oil and coal companies and lumber companies (whose track records on protecting the environment are abysmal),uphold roe vs wade,inact sound gun control laws,Reduce class size in our public schools,hire more teachers with better,more respectable pay,clean up inner city schools from the blight of mediocrity and make them accountable for teaching the children rather than babysitters at tax payers dollars, and most important-----Gore could meet with foreign dignataries and probably stay focused enough to articulate our national interests---as apposed to Shrub who couldn't stay focused enough to particpate in this(thank gowd) the final debate.


Who the hell did Shrub wink at in the debate?


Good night all 🙂😀😎
 


<< not rock the boat of economic prosperity all of us have enjoyed oveer the last 8 years >>



I was waiting for someone to recognize the contribution of the Reagan administration.
Slick Willie has been riding those coattails for some time.

OOOOOps OMG - I just responded to Tripleshot....
Sorry - does this mean you're going to go stomping off in a huff again?
 
TS, I'm going to pick this one out of you paragraph, because the rest is campaign speach (which btw is not a bad thing).
<I want a President that will stay the course,not rock the boat of economic prosperity all of us have enjoyed oveer the last 8 years>

The riot of this is that Gore doesnt plan to stay the course. He is going to spend more money on increasing the Fed. In fact if gore had said, &quot;other than a cost of living increase, the budget will stay the same&quot;, you would have a point. But he wont and you dont.

Now looking at what is happening in the markets with profits down across the board, staying the course may just be the wrong thing. Whomever gets elected may just get saddled with a serious drop in the economy that is not his doing. But neither candidate wants to touch that now since both of their budgets count on a huge surplus that may not be there.
 


<< will protect the social security system and medicare,provide tax relief to those who truly need it,protect the environment from being raped by oil and coal companies and lumber companies (whose track records on protecting the environment are abysmal),uphold roe vs wade,inact sound gun control laws,Reduce class size in our public schools,hire more teachers with better,more respectable pay,clean up inner city schools from the blight of mediocrity and make them accountable for teaching the children rather than babysitters at tax payers dollars, >>



I have to respond to this. You sound like we have two brand new candidates out there--two who have not been involved in Washington for the past eight years. However, Al Gore has been trying to take credit for the past eight years in Washington and around the country. Note that most of what you say has NOT been done. (By the way, we HAVE plenty of gun control laws, we need some enforcement. For example, at Columbine there were dozens of gun laws broken, and they saved no one.) We still have low teacher pay, abysmal inner city schools, no accountability for federal monies spent on education by the states, no tax relief, no plan for reforming social security or medicare. These same promises/platitudes were mouthed eight years ago, so why hasn't anything been done? And why would you trust the same people who have not followed through on promises to have another chance? Accountability anyone?
 
Yikes this thread sure caught fire as soon as Russ jumped in, eh? 😉

Here's my view. As far as what MrChicken said, I think I agree with that somewhat. However Bush was stumbling around and instead of saying things he was going to do, he only said these vague ideas: &quot;I want to make a smaller government&quot; -- well how the fuck do you plan on doing it? And sure, he didn't do that all the time, but even though Gore was agressive and maybe even bullying, to me at least it seemed like he knew what he was talking about.

I agree with Red, none of us are going to change other people's minds so what's the use trying? I'd rather just shoot other ideas down and make fun of everyone involved. 😀
 
As to the gun control laws arguement.. we have different laws everywhere... thats why we have so many. Being able to cross state lines to easily circumvent certain laws makes those laws useless. We need a federal law.
 
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