GOP Votes for Spending Boondoggle

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/06/04/avlon.budget.hypocrisy/index.html?hpt=C2

New York (CNN) -- In a time of voter anger at unsustainable government spending and Washington hypocrisy, here's a story that should get your blood up.

Last week, the House of Representatives considered eliminating a nearly half-billion dollar earmark that was snuck into a defense authorization bill. But members of both parties voted to keep the corporate pork in the bill -- despite a supposed moratorium on earmarks and despite that the Pentagon has repeatedly said it doesn't want the money.

Only in Washington would bureaucracy be force-fed a project it doesn't want or need.

But so far, we haven't seen this contempt for taxpayer dollars make its way to protest signs or talk radio driven talking points. That's because President Obama opposes the earmark and the Republican congressional leadership voted for it.

This doesn't fit neatly into the hyperpartisan narrative of screaming about socialism -- in which Republicans bewail overspending by Democrats -- but it's a perfect illustration of how deep the dysfunction is in Washington.

At issue is the alternate engine for the Joint Strike Fighter platform, a corporate subsidized boondoggle that has cost taxpayers $1.2 billion in earmarks since 2004. It is estimated to cost at least $2.9 billion more until its completion.

Defenders argue that paying GE and Rolls Royce to develop a second engine for Air Force fighters will stimulate competition in the defense industry and bring down costs in the long run while protecting jobs in the short run.

Critics point out that crony capitalism can't create a true free market in the defense industry -- it's the equivalent of diet hucksters who claim you can eat yourself fitter. This is about money: pork barrel politics hiding under the noble banner of national defense.

Here's how the sordid story unfolded:

An anonymous earmark was added to the defense authorization bill, requesting $485 million in new funds for the alternate engine program, despite a much-ballyhooed moratorium on earmarks going to for-profit entities (agreed to by Democrats), and a total ban on earmark requests agreed to by Republicans for fiscal year 2011.

In reaction, a small bipartisan group of members of Congress -- led by Democrat Chellie Pingree of Maine and Republican Tom Rooney of Florida, joined by Democrat John Larson of Connecticut and Republican Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia -- proposed an amendment to strip the bill of the ugly anonymous earmark. Their principled stand went down to defeat by a vote of 193 to 231.

It's no surprise that in a recession, the congressional representatives of Ohio and Indiana would vote to keep the earmark subsidy in the bill, including the normally stalwart fiscal conservative Mike Pence of Indiana. Those states are benefiting most from the development of the engines in terms of jobs on the ground.

What's more surprising is why so many of their colleagues would climb on this pork-barrel bandwagon, including the Republican congressional leadership led by John Boehner and Eric Cantor, who are trying to build the midterm election campaign around a promise to restore fiscal discipline.

That selling job that should be even tougher since a majority of Democrats voted to kill the alternate engine and a majority of Republicans voted to keep it going.

"This was the first big earmark test for 2010, and Congress failed," said Thomas A. Schatz, the President of Citizens Against Government Waste, which has been a steadfast critic of the alternate engine and recently released a detailed report on the subject.

"Neither party comes out looking good, but Republicans in particular missed a golden opportunity to show that they are really serious about getting government spending under control."

The next chance to stop the half-billion dollar alternate engine earmark is the Senate, when it takes up the defense authorization bill later this month. But even success there from genuine fiscal conservatives such as John McCain could be undone when the bill goes to conference -- it's the Washington way.

The final stop would be a presidential veto, which President Obama has promised, under advice from Defense Secretary Gates.
A half century ago, Republican President Eisenhower warned about the influence of the military-industrial complex.

The former five-star general crusaded against government waste, especially in the military, because he knew that a figure with lesser credibility could be attacked as being "soft on communism" for proposing responsible cuts from the Pentagon budget during the Cold War.

We are at war today on two fronts, even as we face down a fiscal crisis and escalating deficits and debt.

We owe it to our troops to see that every dollar allocated to the military is spent where they need it, not where congressional appropriators want it. And if fiscal conservative protesters cannot marshal their energy to oppose this half-billion dollar boondoggle, then it is not just Congress' hypocrisy they should be angry at -- it is their own.

It may not be that much in the scheme of things, but half a billion is half a billion.
 

Mursilis

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So it seems no matter which party they are much the same.

Nope. All this story demonstrates, other than the obvious fact that politicians can't be trusted (which any intelligent person learned long ago), is that we need a balanced budget mechanism. If you can't trust the kids not to raid the liquor cabinet when you're out, then you need to limit the amount of the booze they'll get their hands on.
 

drebo

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While I do not condone earmarks of any kind for anyone from any party, this is yet again typical liberal tactics: bitch about something insignificant to maintain the illusion of fiscal responsibility to the masses who are too stupid to realize that $500,000,000 is nothing to a government with a debt of $13,000,000,000,000.

Also, no rational person believes that most current RINOs have any leanings at all toward true fiscal conservatism. The Dems and Repubs in the legislature now are two peas in a very liberal pod.
 

Genx87

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So a bipartisan group tries to strip the earmark and it goes down to defeat in a majority democrat house of reps and this guy pins this on the GOP?

Assuming the republicans who were part of the bipartisan group voted for the stripping of the bill and the rest of the party voted to keep the funding. That means 55 democrats voted against it as well.

Got a break down of the vote?

btw how does one add an anonymous earmark?
 

zsdersw

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this is yet again typical liberal tactics: bitch about something insignificant to maintain the illusion of fiscal responsibility to the masses who are too stupid to realize that $500,000,000 is nothing to a government with a debt of $13,000,000,000,000.

You're making conclusions not supported in the article.
 

PottedMeat

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An anonymous earmark was added to the defense authorization bill, requesting $485 million in new funds for the alternate engine program, despite a much-ballyhooed moratorium on earmarks going to for-profit entities (agreed to by Democrats), and a total ban on earmark requests agreed to by Republicans for fiscal year 2011.

How can something be added to a bill anonymously? People should be able to ID who put what where on these things.



...4Chan? :awe:
 

zsdersw

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So a bipartisan group tries to strip the earmark and it goes down to defeat in a majority democrat house of reps and this guy pins this on the GOP?

Boehner and Cantor, specifically, for the hypocrisy.

Assuming the republicans who were part of the bipartisan group voted for the stripping of the bill and the rest of the party voted to keep the funding. That means 55 democrats voted against it as well.

Got a break down of the vote?

btw how does one add an anonymous earmark?

You know what assumptions are, don't you?
 

MotF Bane

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How can something be added to a bill anonymously? People should be able to ID who put what where on these things.



...4Chan? :awe:

If 4chan did it, it'd be half a billion dollars to purchase creatures with tentacles and send them to porn producers.
 

Genx87

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Boehner and Cantor, specifically, for the hypocrisy.

So 2 out of 178 republicans and that is enough to pin this vote on the GOP?


You know what assumptions are, don't you?

So it is ok to assume a democrat added the earmark and the vote was 91 Republicans voted against stripping of the earmark?

This article has so much fail without more information.
 

Vette73

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Yea there is so much money to be made from this that GE/RR are running ads even on the Metro trains here in DC telling people to support it.

I REALLY hope Obama vetos the bill as a whole till it gets taken out, with a lot of other pork. Even Gates and DoD say its not needed.
 

PokerGuy

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The title of the thread would be more correct if it said "Democrats vote for boondoggle, some idiot republicans join them". Tell me again, who has the majority of the votes at this time in both houses of congress, and is thus responsible for any legislation that passes?
 

zsdersw

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The title of the thread would be more correct if it said "Democrats vote for boondoggle, some idiot republicans join them". Tell me again, who has the majority of the votes at this time in both houses of congress, and is thus responsible for any legislation that passes?

114 Democrats and 115 Republicans in the House voted to keep this in the defense bill.
 

cubby1223

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It's all the evil conservative plot to force Obama to go against his promise when he signs this spending bill in to law ahahahahahaha!!!!

Still, would prefer to get their explanations for their votes rather than sideline commentators who may or may not have a bias of their own. I mean the whole article has an obvious slant, who knows what the underlying opinions really are.


The writer is trying to say how this spending doesn't fit in to the partisan narrative, are you kidding me?!!! Republicans for defense spending is unusual?
 
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Genx87

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theeedude

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Small government conservatism in action. I hope Obama vetoes this GOP spending spree.
 

zsdersw

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Hilarious, no wonder the person writing the article didnt include this information. 50% of the people voting against dropping funding were democrats. I bet if we could find the source of this so called anon-earmark that added this funding to the defense bill it would be a democrat as well. Talk about disingenuous on the article writers part.

The author of the article did include the following:

"Neither party comes out looking good"

The title is accurate, but a more precise title would've been: "Republicans and Democrats Voted Equally in Favor of Spending Boondoggle".