GOP Senate Candidate Declares Pregnancy From Rape Is "Something God Intended"

[nehalem256]

So rapists are just doing God's work in a mysterious way?

Rapists are doing satan's work.

The pregnancy is God making the best of a bad situation.

 

[jpeyton]

Isn't that all you are, a clump of cells and tissues?

No, but I'm comprised of those elements. Individually, those clumps can't survive autonomously outside my body, but as a whole I am an autonomous being.

Just like a <20 week fetus cannot survive outside a mother's body autonomously.

 

[lotus503]

Rapists are doing satan's work.

The pregnancy is God making the best of a bad situation.

and this is why I think religion is shitty.

 

[QuantumPion]

I think the whole issue of abortion will be over with in ~20-30 years once medical science figures out a way to extract the fetus and let it develop in an artificial uterus.

 

[QuantumPion]

Just like a <20 week fetus cannot survive outside a mother's body autonomously.

Maybe not today, but it is certainly plausible to assume that in the future it will be able to. The fact that it is conceivable with near future medical technology to grow a fetus outside the uterus debunks your argument that "because the fetus cannot survive on its own, it is therefore not a separate human being".

 

[lotus503]

Maybe not today, but it is certainly plausible to assume that in the future it will be able to. The fact that it is conceivable with near future medical technology to grow a fetus outside the uterus debunks your argument that "because the fetus cannot survive on its own, it is therefore not a separate human being".

who is going to care for the fetus?

 

[Darwin333]

So a woman impregnated by rape should be forced to deliver the baby?

I do not believe any of the following but if you actually understand the issue religious people have against abortion you would understand the answer to your question.

People who believe that life begins at conception, that a fetus is actually an innocent human child, and that abortion is literally murdering a child would obviously have that opinion. In what circumstances do you think it would be ok to murder a living breathing innocent toddler? If you have any decency the answer should be absolutely none. So if you believed that abortion was the exact same thing as murdering that toddler, would you ever make an exception? IF that is what you truly believe, you shouldn't.

Frankly, I think any person that stands up and says abortion is murdering innocent child yet says an exception should be made in cases of rape is a hypocrite.

 

[QuantumPion]

who is going to care for the fetus?

Who runs orphanages now?

 

[jackstar7]

Surprising development in this story: http://www.theonion.com/articles/mother-mary-was-essentially-raped-mourdock-says-wh,30083/




IF you consider the onion a source of news... as I know some foolishly do.

 

[mchammer187]

Rapists are doing satan's work.

The pregnancy is God making the best of a bad situation.

I just think this doesn't make sense in the presence of a perfect, all powerful, omnipresent and all knowing God. With that free will does not exist. God must already know what is going to happen well before it happens even millions of years before it happens.

I could buy the concept of a well intentioned God that was not all knowing (flawed) but there is no room for that in Christianity.

I just choose to believe that if there was a God that they wouldn't put us here to be tested when everything was predetermined already.

 

[actuarial]

If you think it should be legal to pop out a perfectly health 6 month fetus why not just support directly aborting it?

It seems a lot more compassionate to me.

Instead of dooming it to a likely painful short life and death, or significant health problems.

Just to be clear, if a child is born (or is going to likely be born) with significant health problems, the compassionate thing to do is to abort it?

 

[umbrella39]

The only time abortion should be OK is for acts of terrurisum! Other than that, Gods will...

 

[Darwin333]

No, but I'm comprised of those elements. Individually, those clumps can't survive autonomously outside my body, but as a whole I am an autonomous being.

Just like a <20 week fetus cannot survive outside a mother's body autonomously.

Would your opinion change if it could?

 

[QuantumPion]

Frankly, I think any person that stands up and says abortion is murdering innocent child yet says an exception should be made in cases of rape is a hypocrite.

The reason why there are "moderate pro-lifers" that are OK with abortion for incest or rape is because it is politically possible to end 90% of abortions, which are for convenience, while it is not politically possible to end all abortions entirely. I wouldn't say it is hypocritical. More like triage. Take care of the 90% now and worry about the last 10% later.

 

[lotus503]

Who runs orphanages now?

Im not sure orphanages had the medical capicity or equipment to deal with an under developed fetus. Lung devleopment prior to week 26 makes it difficult.

 

[mchammer187]

The reason why there are "moderate pro-lifers" that are OK with abortion for incest or rape is because it is politically possible to end 90% of abortions, which are for convenience, while it is not politically possible to end all abortions entirely. I wouldn't say it is hypocritical. More like triage. Take care of the 90% now and worry about the last 10% later.

Why not embrace contraception then?

 

[Phokus]

Rapists are doing satan's work.

The pregnancy is God making the best of a bad situation.

Don't you think God not making the victim pregnant would be making the best of a bad situation? I.e. even though the victim was raped, at least she doesn't get pregnant, doesn't have to make the decision whether or not to get an abortion, and you conservatives don't have to bitch about abortions due to rape?

You conservatives are morons with no common sense.

 

[QuantumPion]

Why not embrace contraception then?

I have nothing against contraceptives. That's a Catholic thing. And I don't think Catholics are against contraceptives because they think it is a form of abortion. They are against contraceptives because they are against having sex for only pleasure.

 

[Jaepheth]

Rapists are doing satan's work.

The pregnancy is God making the best of a bad situation.

O rly?

Some highlights:
1. Not enough women to go around? Go steal some and a technical loophole will cover you
2. Young virgins are fair game as spoils of war
3. Raped a non-betrothed woman? No problem, just buy her off the father and marry her.
4. Women who are too scared to cry out during a rape batter not report it afterward or she'll be stoned.
5. Raping your wife(s) and killing your children is an acceptable punishment for your sin.
6. women are once again objects to be taken, used, and disposed of when you're done with them.

 

[emperus]

Rapists are doing satan's work.

The pregnancy is God making the best of a bad situation.

What? God making the best of a bad situation. You crazy!

 

[Mursilis]

No, but I'm comprised of those elements. Individually, those clumps can't survive autonomously outside my body, but as a whole I am an autonomous being.

Just like a <20 week fetus cannot survive outside a mother's body autonomously.

What if you were in a severe accident and needed machines to live, perhaps permanently? Would your basic human rights change?

 

[Mursilis]

I do not believe any of the following but if you actually understand the issue religious people have against abortion you would understand the answer to your question.

You don't have to be religious to believe life begins at conception. That many pro-life people are also religious doesn't mean they all are.

 

[nehalem256]

Don't you think God not making the victim pregnant would be making the best of a bad situation? I.e. even though the victim was raped, at least she doesn't get pregnant, doesn't have to make the decision whether or not to get an abortion, and you conservatives don't have to bitch about abortions due to rape?

You conservatives are morons with no common sense.

Just because you are playing Candyland while God is a 3D chess Grandmaster does not mean God is wrong.

 

[mchammer187]

Just because you are playing Candyland while God is a 3D chess Grandmaster does not mean God is wrong.

So you are saying if had a daughter and she was raped you would think "I hope she gets pregnant from this."

 

[nehalem256]

Just to be clear, if a child is born (or is going to likely be born) with significant health problems, the compassionate thing to do is to abort it?

In many cases I would say yes.

And of course your reasoning is fallacious. Because there is a big difference between someone happening to have health problems and CHOOSING to inflict health problems on someone.