GOP Senate Candidate Declares Pregnancy From Rape Is "Something God Intended"

[Zorkorist]

Try again...

-John

 

[nehalem256]

He did easily destroy your argument, though. You do agree he did, right?

Of course I destroyed it. But for some reason liberals insist that society has a problem telling men what to do.

Maybe that is why 90% of prisoners are men? :hmm:

 

[jackstar7]

Ah jackstar7, either you actually are as stupid as you just showed or you are pretending to be stupid. I am going to assume you are, for some odd reason only you can fathom, simply pretending to be stupid.

I'll have to assume you're simply terrified by ignorance and thus refuse to permit it, even in the case of unknowable things.

Better check that nightlight. You don't want to wake up in the dark.

 

[alzan]

He did easily destroy your argument, though. You do agree he did, right?

There you go again, proclaiming your stupidity for the forum.

You could just take out one of those flashy ads on the anandtech site; it would probably save you a lot of typing.

 

[Paratus]

They kill the unborn human, on purpose, to do this. You do not honestly believe they do not purposefully kill the unborn human to do this, do you?

Just want to check something with you. You do know 50% of all embryos don't implant and therefore die?

So I believe pregnancy is a natural process but you probably think its gods doing. So my question is why would be create a process where billions of "children" have to die so others can be born?

 

[jackstar7]

Just want to check something with you. You do know 50% of all embryos don't implant and therefore die?

So I believe pregnancy is a natural process but you probably think its gods doing. So my question is why would be create a process where billions of "children" have to die so others can be born?

Duh! Human sacrifice!

All those first-born sons were not enough... they just whetted God's appetite for dead children!

 

[Lemon law]

To sum up the cybrsage circular reasoning in my own mind. God is all knowing and thus incapable of error. On the other hand flawed human beings are incapable of understanding what God's plan really is, so flawed human's too may be incapable of certainty.

Which means that maybe God approves of abortions in the case of rape and incest. Or alternately God demands that any such resulting child be carried to full term even if child and mother die in the attempt. Since know one, neither Cybrsage or me, knows the real mind of God, how can cybrsage pretend to know the real mind of GOD?????

Please explain cybrsage, why only you understands the true mind of GOD. The world wonders.

 

[Paratus]

Duh! Human sacrifice!

All those first-born sons were not enough... they just whetted God's appetite for dead children!

Damn should have thought of that!

 

[Zorkorist]

To sum up the cybrsage circular reasoning in my own mind. God is all knowing and thus incapable of error. On the other hand flawed human beings are incapable of understanding what God's plan really is, so flawed human's too may be incapable of certainty.

Which means that maybe God approves of abortions in the case of rape and incest. Or alternately God demands that any such resulting child be carried to full term even if child and mother die in the attempt. Since know one, neither Cybrsage or me, knows the real mind of God, how can cybrsage pretend to know the real mind of GOD?????

Please explain cybrsage, why only you understands the true mind of GOD. The world wonders.

Post of the year.

-John

 

[Moonbeam]

To sum up the cybrsage circular reasoning in my own mind. God is all knowing and thus incapable of error. On the other hand flawed human beings are incapable of understanding what God's plan really is, so flawed human's too may be incapable of certainty.

Which means that maybe God approves of abortions in the case of rape and incest. Or alternately God demands that any such resulting child be carried to full term even if child and mother die in the attempt. Since know one, neither Cybrsage or me, knows the real mind of God, how can cybrsage pretend to know the real mind of GOD?????

Please explain cybrsage, why only you understands the true mind of GOD. The world wonders.

He speaks for God. For example, although nothing happens that isn't the will of God, God is not all doing. He and God can create laws that defy logic. Laws don't apply to the self important. They get to make them up themselves. And if you know that a child will be murdered by abortion and do not stop that from happening, an easy feat for an all powerful being, then you are simply an accomplish to murder. So no matter how you cut it, he worships a terrible God, which isn't so surprising, since he and God are one and the same thing. At least he's the mouth of God. He knows his will. Abortion is a sin. The truth is right there in his ass. But you know how it is. When you speak for God, it's not long before you want to speak for everybody.

 

[1prophet]

I kinda forgive this guy for his words. I think he meant well and just said it wrong.
But if he did mean it word for word, then 9/11 was also Gods will?
Like saying God willed the terrorist with success?
Or getting mugged and robbed is Gods will? So why protect yourself or call the police?
And if a wife discoveres her husband is cheating, then killing him for that is ok because it was Gods will?
Just how far should "Gods will" as an excuse go?

Probably as far as the "devil made me do it".

 

[actuarial]

In many cases I would say yes.

And of course your reasoning is fallacious. Because there is a big difference between someone happening to have health problems and CHOOSING to inflict health problems on someone.

My reasoning is fine. You said that if I had a choice between birthing a child with health problems or killing it, that killing it is the compassionate choice.

If the fetus is known to have health problems not caused intentionally the choice is the same.

It may be a passive as opposed to an active choice, but that doesn't change the potential outcomes for the child.

 

[soulcougher73]

Maybe we can come to a compromise. Sorry i said a bad word.

How about we outlaw all abortions and just saddle the pro-lifers with all the kids. You want them in the world at any cost, you get to take care of them and pay for them.

Deal?

 

[Mursilis]

Maybe we can come to a compromise. Sorry i said a bad word.

How about we outlaw all abortions and just saddle the pro-lifers with all the kids. You want them in the world at any cost, you get to take care of them and pay for them.

Deal?

That logic is flawed.

Say you're down by the river. A woman comes by and throws a child in to drown. You save the child. Is the child now your responsibility, financially or otherwise?

 

[soulcougher73]

That logic is flawed.

Say you're down by the river. A woman comes by and throws a child in to drown. You save the child. Is the child now your responsibility, financially or otherwise?

It's only flawed because you dont like the consequences of your decisions to outlaw abortions. You want to impose your morality on the country, well impose the financial responisibility on you. Tit for Tat. Its called compromise.

 

[QuantumPion]

Maybe we can come to a compromise. Sorry i said a bad word.

How about we outlaw all abortions and just saddle the pro-lifers with all the kids. You want them in the world at any cost, you get to take care of them and pay for them.

Deal?

OK, but I get to stop paying for all welfare programs. If you want people on welfare to continue to live on the public dole forever, then they are your responsibility to pay for. So I'll pay for the children who have no choice in whether they are born or not, till they are 18. And you get to pay for all the adults who chose to not work, for life. Deal.

 

[nehalem256]

My reasoning is fine. You said that if I had a choice between birthing a child with health problems or killing it, that killing it is the compassionate choice.

If the fetus is known to have health problems not caused intentionally the choice is the same.

It may be a passive as opposed to an active choice, but that doesn't change the potential outcomes for the child.

Is there a difference between not call 911 when you come across a stabbed person and stabbing the person?

Maybe we can come to a compromise. Sorry i said a bad word.

How about we outlaw all abortions and just saddle the pro-lifers with all the kids. You want them in the world at any cost, you get to take care of them and pay for them.

Deal?

Can I have the opposite deal? I will not be forced to support any woman who chooses to have a child she cannot afford?

 

[QuantumPion]

It's only flawed because you dont like the consequences of your decisions to outlaw abortions. You want to impose your morality on the country, well impose the financial responisibility on you. Tit for Tat. Its called compromise.

It's flawed because it's a horrendous form of blackmail.

"Pay for my child, or else I will kill it."

 

[nehalem256]

It's flawed because it's a horrendous form of blackmail.

"Pay for my child, or else I will kill it."

Sounds like you just described the basis for liberal social welfare programs.

 

[soulcougher73]

OK, but I get to stop paying for all welfare programs. If you want people on welfare to continue to live on the public dole forever, then they are your responsibility to pay for. So I'll pay for the children who have no choice in whether they are born or not, till they are 18. And you get to pay for all the adults who chose to not work, for life. Deal.

Can we just stick to one topic at a time please? Were talking about abortion not welfare. I came up with a solution that gives both sides what they want. The side that wants all babies born gets it and the side that doesnt want a baby gets that. What more compromise do you want?

 

[soulcougher73]

Can I have the opposite deal? I will not be forced to support any woman who chooses to have a child she cannot afford?

All you need to do is support abortions and youll get your wish a lot of the time.

Im pretty sure you and i are on the same page for mothers who have kids they cant afford from other threads.

 

[Mursilis]

Can we just stick to one topic at a time please? Were talking about abortion not welfare. I came up with a solution that gives both sides what they want. The side that wants all babies born gets it and the side that doesnt want a baby gets that. What more compromise do you want?

So you created a poor, illogical analogy, get called on it, and start whining about diversion?

As for forcing one's personal morality on others, you're just like the Christian Right if you support any sort of gov't grant to the poor. It's not enough for you to give your own money to the poor (assuming you do), but you're forcing others to do likewise, based on your own moral code.

Oh, and you also failed to answer the question.

 

[QuantumPion]

Can we just stick to one topic at a time please? Were talking about abortion not welfare. I came up with a solution that gives both sides what they want. The side that wants all babies born gets it and the side that doesnt want a baby gets that. What more compromise do you want?

Um...you are the one claiming people against abortion should have to pay to support the unwanted children. That is welfare. Nice try at deflection though.

 

[soulcougher73]

So you created a poor, illogical analogy, get called on it, and start whining about diversion?

As for forcing one's personal morality on others, you're just like the Christian Right if you support any sort of gov't grant to the poor. It's not enough for you to give your own money to the poor (assuming you do), but you're forcing others to do likewise, based on your own moral code.

Oh, and you also failed to answer the question.

I didnt whine about anything. And you also just admitted to diversion. Nice.

As for your questions, i cant help you with that. If you dont see a difference between aborting a clump of cells and drowning a 3 year old i dont know how to help you.

All i did was come up with a compromise based on one side wanting to legislate their morality onto others since they dont like to let people make their own decisions on how to live and think.

 

[QuantumPion]

I didnt whine about anything. And you also just admitted to diversion. Nice.

As for your questions, i cant help you with that. If you dont see a difference between aborting a clump of cells and drowning a 3 year old i dont know how to help you.

All i did was come up with a compromise based on one side wanting to legislate their morality onto others since they dont like to let people make their own decisions on how to live and think.

What is your definition of "clump of cells", precisely? Everyone is just a clump of cells until you make a purely subjective distinction, the basis of which is to justify abortion.