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Originally posted by: JD50
... It looks like you think that it's perfectly fine to label someone a neocon if they agree with just one or two neocon ideals. Is this true? How is that any different than people on the right labeling Democrats socialists when they agree with a few socialist ideals?
Well, as you know, we must have a label that can be used to refer to a person. Preferably, a couple of labels. One that accurately, objectively categorizes them and at least one that can be used derisively.

I just wonder how many traits are sufficient to make a categorization.
 

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Originally posted by: feralkid

No sir.

The term Neocon was definitely NOT used towards everyone representing a non-liberal idea.

You are mistaken.


By far, more people have been called Nazi's, Bush Apologists, Ditto-Heads, Morons, Racists, Douche Bags, Bush-Wackos, Non-Profs and Fascists than were ever called Neocons.

For general use I prefer Contard and when the fascism fits, Neocontard.
 

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Corporate Rule of Life #3.

When your ideas don't work, attack the other guy's.

I urge all Democrats to switch parties this year and vote Republican just to fuck with Rush.
With any luck, the ironing of Operation Chaos will get to him and his head will asplode
 

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Phokus
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22445.html

Basically, Republicans are essentially children

Remember the time Democrats were out of power and they held a resolution to rebrand Republicans as the "Republican Fascist Party"? Yeah, i don't remember that either.

Seriously, does the GOP even know how much trouble it's in? Any reasonable adult will see how childish this is. As inept as the GOP is, this is probably one of their more pathetic moments in politics.

If I remember correctly over the last few years all of the Republicans were branded NEOCON whether they were actually neocons or not. It was especially popular on these forums. Funny enough it isn't used quite as frequently around here anymore now that the tables have turned.

You do not remember correctly. People were referred to as Neocons when they were espousing the ideas and philosophical leanings of (can you guess?) Neo-Conservatives.

Furthermore, Neocon is a real political platform that many in the Republican Party, and many members of the previous administration are proud members of.

Conversely, calling all Democrats "Socialists" is simply meant to slander.

Hah its so amazing that you feel that way. Neocon has been a term around for a long time. So has socialist. However, as witnessed on these very forums for a long long time, the word neocon was definitely used towards everyone representing a non-liberal idea. I know first hand, being non-dem and non-gop just how often it was used...
What's amzing is I feel that same way.
Because it's what happened.

 

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Originally posted by: Craig234
There's a very primtive brain function that reacts to 'us' and 'them the enemy'.

Republican propagandists often tap into it. It's that simple.

The Republican Party has an agenda that wouldn't hold up too well in public. It's pretty much to oppose the US revolution that overthrew corrupt concentration of power and wealth and give the people democracy, by doing so within the constraints of democracy, using the available tools: making big money donations only they have a crucial part of the system, using propaganda to get voters to vote for them using whatever slogans work, etc.

So you see the Republicans always, always using the 'enemy' argument, whether it was saying FDR would doom the nation, or that the government was infiltrated by communists who wanted to overthrow the country, or that JFK was far too liberal and unable to protect the nation as it needed, the 'commie' and 'socialist' stuff has been abused by them as an attack as long as the words have existed. Other variations include the Willie Horton 'soft on crime' type themes, the implication that Republicans are better religiously, and others.

In my view, these propaganda campaigns are insidious - they work on a very irrational level so that the people who fall for them become highly, irrationally biased against the 'enemy', not for rational policy differences, but almost in a programmed manner, where they view everything 'the enemy' does with great animosity and suspicion, and give great latitude to 'their side' because anything they do wrong is small compare the importance of 'beating the enemy'.

You see this for example when Obama rolls out a tax cut plan saying he'll cut taxes for 95% of Americans more than his opponent, and the righties instead of saying they agree with that, attack it - saying 'you can't trust him' or 'it's trying to buy votes' (without noting the hypocrisy they don't say that about their side doing it) or simply ignoring the facts and declaring him the bigger taxer whateve his policy.

It's a poisonous culture in which democracy cannot function as needed rationally - merely in the mechanics of the propaganda victims voting for their side.

But it does help a side with a bad agenda to be electable, as they run on the flag and the work ethic and honesty in government and fiscal restraint and puppy dogs.
Essentially, it's the old Divide and Conquer routine that's worked so well since last we were in old Roma.