GOP opposes Secure Elections Act

[DarthKyrie]

I don't know if security would even be an issue. When you register for voter ID number you give an email or phone number and choose your preferred method of notification for when votes are cast with your ID. If you weren't the one who voted, you can reject it as invalid (maybe someone got your voter ID and password) or approve it if it is valid and matches what you voted for. If approved, the choices are locked for that voter ID and you get a digital confirmation of your choices (which you can print! yay paper!). The information is stored until all races are declared final. Before that point anyone can log in to the DB with read only access to verify their choices have not been changed, especially in tight races where every vote counts. If you find your digital or printed receipt is different than the info in the live DB you can report it and after validation of your identity and the receipt, the values can be changed by an authorized admin to match the receipt (and perhaps a department is set up specifically to investigate all such discrepancies). The federal gobberment should own the infrastructure with each state having their own areas where they are responsible for configuring the choices for each election. Within those state areas are further subdivisions for their local elections, which each local government is responsible to configure.

Vote on your phone, home computer, from the shitter, or your library. Set up some temporary terminals at the places that used to be polling stations for anyone that doesn't have internet access or just likes to go to a polling station because they like traditions or whatever.

Please identify the gaps in this system. How and where could it be hacked?

Come on dank my brother you should know better than to trust something as important as your vote to electronics. There should always be a hard copy of something so important, in this case, a paper ballot that can never be hacked.

 

[dank69]

Big hole in this is lets say your password becomes compromised on election day now your vote is either changed or deleted.
Why not just expand the days to vote, make it a week long thing to do. Probably have the same result and much less internet security BS that will never be truly secure.

I said you will get notified if your choices are changed. I have no problem with making the voting period a week or longer.

 

[dank69]

It gets hacked from the other direction. Just because you could check your ballot doesn't mean it was accurately counted. There's no way to compare ballots cast & totals tabulated other than from what the computer tells us. Scanner read paper ballots can be recounted by hand.

Being able to verify your votes online via a secure interface is a really bad idea. It's one thing to be able to verify that your ballot has been received & entirely another to remove ballot secrecy in any fashion.

The other direction? What does that even mean? It's one database. No matter who accesses it, it's all the same data.

Also, there would be no personal information stored in the database. The database that matches voter ID number with contact info would be a separate database that doesn't even need access to the internet. All you can do is look up voter ID numbers and see what choice the person who has that number made, but you cannot find out who that person is. If you tell someone else what your voter ID number is, that is your problem.

Meanwhile, look at the problem with your beloved scanner read paper ballots. One election official can fill out as many of those as they want and feed them to the scanners when nobody is looking, or working in teams to distract other officials while others feed. Watch that video of Nance talking about the Mueller report, he mentions where our current system would be hacked, and it isn't at the polling stations. It's at the point where totals get reported upwards.

 

[dank69]

Come on dank my brother you should know better than to trust something as important as your vote to electronics. There should always be a hard copy of something so important, in this case, a paper ballot that can never be hacked.

I am infinitely more worried about someone stealing my identity and finding my SSN/CC/bank account information than my actual votes, yet I trust hundreds of companies with that more sensitive information online.

 

[Jhhnn]

The other direction? What does that even mean? It's one database. No matter who accesses it, it's all the same data.

Also, there would be no personal information stored in the database. The database that matches voter ID number with contact info would be a separate database that doesn't even need access to the internet. All you can do is look up voter ID numbers and see what choice the person who has that number made, but you cannot find out who that person is. If you tell someone else what your voter ID number is, that is your problem.

Meanwhile, look at the problem with your beloved scanner read paper ballots. One election official can fill out as many of those as they want and feed them to the scanners when nobody is looking, or working in teams to distract other officials while others feed. Watch that video of Nance talking about the Mueller report, he mentions where our current system would be hacked, and it isn't at the polling stations. It's at the point where totals get reported upwards.

You're not thinking it thru. Your computer can tell every voter the truth about their vote, twiddle with the totals & there's no way to say any different.

Your bit about stuffing scanners with fake ballots is pure conspiracy theory.

 

[HomerJS]

FTTFY

GOP opposes secure elections

 

[dank69]

You're not thinking it thru. Your computer can tell every voter the truth about their vote, twiddle with the totals & there's no way to say any different.

Your bit about stuffing scanners with fake ballots is pure conspiracy theory.

Anyone can download all of the data and crunch the numbers themselves.

I'm not saying those things have happened with paper ballots, so not conspiracy theory. Just pointing out that paper ballot systems are no safer than a well designed digital system.