GOP Debate #1

[LegendKiller]

She supports non-insane policies. Sorry, you don't deserve respect if you reflexively bash a person's positions without knowing them. There's infinitely more supports for HRC by virtually every measure imaginable for a reason.

Yes, non-insane policies = revolving door wealthy asshole buying elections for influence peddling and foreign government influenced elections which fuck the middle and lower classes while being two faced and talking a smooth game.

Gotcha.

Please. Buffet kept merely the Berkshire name, which had nothing to do with what Buffet eventually turned BH into, but nothing else about the dead business remained, so I fail to see your point. Buffet never did anything remotely as stupid as Trump ending up doing, risking personal assets. Buffet diversified, patiently found value in the common stock of companies by looking at their books, their long term value, i.e. investing, not speculating. Trump doesn't belong in the same sentence.

Investments go wrong and sometimes shit happens. It has happened to every investor. To pretend otherwise is idiotic.

Currency manipulation by China is bad (but getting better). I fail to see a governing mandate based on currency manipulation by China. That's a thin policy platform to say the least.

Their currency is still pegged. That means it isn't getting better at all.

lol. "Illegals!" are Americans, ya turd. Nearly half used to be legal immigrants, and most have been here for decades and already have children.

They aren't. Come here legally like everybody else.

Shut down the border, machine gun the sucker. Drug cartels want to invade? I am sure we can find another Sherman or Patton to deal with the invaders.

 

[First]

Yes, non-insane policies = revolving door wealthy asshole buying elections for influence peddling and foreign government influenced elections which fuck the middle and lower classes while being two faced and talking a smooth game.

Gotcha.

Whatever you gotta tell yourself, hoss.

Investments go wrong and sometimes shit happens. It has happened to every investor. To pretend otherwise is idiotic.

Indeed, except in life there is a not so subtle difference between "shit happens" and "You're a fucking moron". Being hundreds of millions in the hole, personally, is quite different from investments that go sour. My investment in AMD went sour, I lost hundreds, not my fucking shirt. lol.

Their currency is still pegged. That means it isn't getting better at all.

Their currency is only partially pegged, they let it get weaker through other capital controls AFAIK.

They aren't. Come here legally like everybody else.

I just told you they come here legally (40%-50%). Then, they overstay their visa, get deemed "Illegals!" and, apparently in your mind, they're not American anymore!

Shut down the border, machine gun the sucker. Drug cartels want to invade? I am sure we can find another Sherman or Patton to deal with the invaders.

Herp a derp.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Yes, non-insane policies = revolving door wealthy asshole buying elections for influence peddling and foreign government influenced elections which fuck the middle and lower classes while being two faced and talking a smooth game.

Gotcha.




Investments go wrong and sometimes shit happens. It has happened to every investor. To pretend otherwise is idiotic.




Their currency is still pegged. That means it isn't getting better at all.



They aren't. Come here legally like everybody else.

Shut down the border, machine gun the sucker. Drug cartels want to invade? I am sure we can find another Sherman or Patton to deal with the invaders.

Again don't you think there is something wrong with the guy who wants to sit on a wall and machine gun women and children?

 

[werepossum]

She supports non-insane policies. Sorry, you don't deserve respect if you reflexively bash a person's positions without knowing them. There's infinitely more support for HRC by virtually every measure imaginable for a reason.

Please. Buffett kept merely the Berkshire name, which had nothing to do with what Buffett eventually turned BH into, but nothing else about the dead business remained, so I fail to see your point. Buffett never did anything remotely as stupid as Trump ending up doing, risking personal assets. Buffett diversified, patiently found value in the common stock of companies by looking at their books, their long term value, i.e. investing, not speculating. Trump doesn't belong in the same sentence.

Currency manipulation by China is bad (but getting better). I fail to see a governing mandate based on currency manipulation by China. That's a thin policy platform to say the least.

lol. "Illegals!" are Americans, ya turd. Nearly half used to be legal immigrants, and most have been here for decades and already have children.

When and why did it become PC to complain about a multimillionaire risking personal assets? One of things I dislike about Trump is his no longer doing this, so that he gets the bulk of the profit while his investors take all the risk.

 

[LegendKiller]

Again don't you think there is something wrong with the guy who wants to sit on a wall and machine gun women and children?

Don't invade my country. Get in line like everybody else.

Don't you think it is wrong to cheer for people who put poor people out of work?

It's amazing you guys care more about illegals than Americans.

And lol at visa holders being americans.

 

[dank69]

Yes, non-insane policies = revolving door wealthy asshole buying elections for influence peddling and foreign government influenced elections which fuck the middle and lower classes while being two faced and talking a smooth game.

Gotcha.




Investments go wrong and sometimes shit happens. It has happened to every investor. To pretend otherwise is idiotic.




Their currency is still pegged. That means it isn't getting better at all.



They aren't. Come here legally like everybody else.

Shut down the border, machine gun the sucker. Drug cartels want to invade? I am sure we can find another Sherman or Patton to deal with the invaders.

I bet you can't name a single policy supported by any of the candidates other than Trump. Not generic policies like pro-life or pro-choice, but actual "this is how I plan to fix things" type of policies. Now, of course, there is no way to prove you do or don't, but I'm saying it because I'd like you to think about it a bit. If you don't and you can be honest with yourself about it, maybe you can shut the fuck up because you sound ignorant, which when coupled with your arrogance just makes it all the more embarrassing. If you do, then maybe you can shut the fuck up anyway because you have to be stupid to be spouting the shit you are spouting.

 

[LegendKiller]

I bet you can't name a single policy supported by any of the candidates other than Trump. Not generic policies like pro-life or pro-choice, but actual "this is how I plan to fix things" type of policies. Now, of course, there is no way to prove you do or don't, but I'm saying it because I'd like you to think about it a bit. If you don't and you can be honest with yourself about it, maybe you can shut the fuck up because you sound ignorant, which when coupled with your arrogance just makes it all the more embarrassing. If you do, then maybe you can shut the fuck up anyway because you have to be stupid to be spouting the shit you are spouting.

Wow, shitstain liberal gets all butt hurt that his empty suit candidates dance around real economic issues.

Face it, fucktards prefer the poor stay on welfare and illegals become citizens. All the more voters to pander to while you hand them checks and more illegals come over the border unfettered.


You're so fucking stupid you don't even realize part of the reason why wages are being suppressed is because we have too many fucking workers on the bottom end. You just buy the "we don't want loser jobs" party line thst you fail to acknowledge rampant unemployment of young minority males.

But hell, let's just bring more low skilled labor in while detoxing the dignity and ability of black men to work.

But who cares, hand them a welfare check. Right?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Don't invade my country. Get in line like everybody else.

Don't you think it is wrong to cheer for people who put poor people out of work?

It's amazing you guys care more about illegals than Americans.

And lol at visa holders being americans.

No but I do think its wrong to shoot unarmed women & children

 

[LegendKiller]

No but I do think its wrong to shoot unarmed women & children

The guns are for the guys who shot down our helicopter. The troops are for detaining a d sending back the unarmed people. Put a few 10k troops on the border and that shit will stop quickly.

 

[First]

When and why did it become PC to complain about a multimillionaire risking personal assets? One of things I dislike about Trump is his no longer doing this, so that he gets the bulk of the profit while his investors take all the risk.

Who said anything about it being PC on this topic? It's common practice to own assets, even your own home, under a corporate veil. As an LLC, for instance. It separates your personal from your business assets, so you don't risk your family's well-being because of your business risk-taking. Trump, on the other hand, agreed to personally guarantee loans on commercial property that went sour, so sour that the only reason he isn't penniless is solely because a few bankers decided not to let him go bankrupt in the early 90's (because it made a little more sense to let it ride). It's not difficult to forgo an investment where personally guaranteeing the loan could result in your personal bankruptcy. It's called risk management and sober judgment. Trump has never had either quality, at least until those recent hard lessons of course.

 

[First]

The guns are for the guys who shot down our helicopter. The troops are for detaining a d sending back the unarmed people. Put a few 10k troops on the border and that shit will stop quickly.

lol. LK, you've gone off the deep end.

 

[LegendKiller]

lol. LK, you've gone off the deep end.

No, I'm just tired of the bullshit. I can't help it if you don't see what illegals are doing for the bottom end of the economic spectrum.

 

[LegendKiller]

Who said anything about it being PC on this topic? It's common practice to own assets, even your own home, under a corporate veil. As an LLC, for instance. It separates your personal from your business assets, so you don't risk your family's well-being because of your business risk-taking. Trump, on the other hand, agreed to personally guarantee loans on commercial property that went sour, so sour that the only reason he isn't penniless is solely because a few bankers decided not to let him go bankrupt in the early 90's (because it made a little more sense to let it ride). It's not difficult to forgo an investment where personally guaranteeing the loan could result in your personal bankruptcy. It's called risk management and sober judgment. Trump has never had either quality, at least until those recent hard lessons of course.

Bitch please. The dick hair I left on the truck stop urinal while driving home today forgot more about finance than you'll ever know.

Investments go bad, shit happens, cycles happen and decisions can be bad. Every single investor in the planet has had that happen, some more than others. Look at the king of oil, his fund is down 17% because he judged the movement wrong.

sometimes it is pure luck you avoid a bad investment, sometimes it is smarts, sometimes it is fraud and sometimes it is just the cycle.

 

[First]

Bitch please. The dick hair I left on the truck stop urinal while driving home today forgot more about finance than you'll ever know.

Yeah no one cares if you took your Series 7 or got your CFA. Doesn't mean shit, sorry. And in any case, you're making all these lame attempts at defending this turd for a misjudgment that is frankly on another planet, and is why I imagine you've failed miserably at coming up with any examples of billionaire investors that did what Trump did 25 years ago. Certainly no examples of well respected investors of Buffett's caliber. And while I'm sure someone out there did something as monumentally stupid as Trump, none of those fucking turds are asking to be voted in to run the biggest superpower in human history.

Investments go bad, shit happens, cycles happen and decisions can be bad. Every single investor in the planet has had that happen, some more than others. Look at the king of oil, his fund is down 17% because he judged the movement wrong.

Yeah did he go bankrupt? Fuck no.

sometimes it is pure luck you avoid a bad investment, sometimes it is smarts, sometimes it is fraud and sometimes it is just the cycle.

I don't really think you have a clue what Trump did. Read up: http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2068227_2068229_2068209,00.html

Personally in debt $1B? lol.

 

[dank69]

No, I'm just tired of the bullshit. I can't help it if you don't see what illegals are doing for the bottom end of the economic spectrum.

Lol you are fucking crazy. Those damn illegals taking all the good $0.80/hr jobs.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Trump still #1 even after the whole FOX attempt to discredit and get him out of the top.

LOL The gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Blackjack200]

Every major country manipulates its currency. What a stupid thing to complain/worry about.

 

[LegendKiller]

Lol you are fucking crazy. Those damn illegals taking all the good $0.80/hr jobs.

Because the *only* jobs illegals take are ones where they make $0.80/hr. We both know that's a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Recent NBC poll.

 

[dank69]

Because the *only* jobs illegals take are ones where they make $0.80/hr. We both know that's a bunch of bullshit.

Why would anyone hire an illegal if they were just going to pay them minimum wage anyway?

 

[LegendKiller]

Why would anyone hire an illegal if they were just going to pay them minimum wage anyway?

You're assuming the job would otherwise pay minimum wage.

Trade crafts are getting slaughtered by illegals. Ask any independent what has happened to deck builders, roofers, framers, drywallers, painters who don't use illegals.

I have asked many. The are constantly underbid by companies who use illegals.

 

[chucky2]

You are wasting your time LK. These people enamored with illegals just cannot understand what it's done, and is doing, to people in manual labor jobs - or the affect it's having on people trying to get those jobs and failing (ironically, the same ones the Dems Heart Bleeds over). They passed a large city construction site once in their life and didn't see a sea of Mexicans (not realizing why that is), and so, the problem just doesn't exist. Next they'll trot out there's "only" 12M of them here (laughable) so what's the big deal. Essentially, these people are so mind F'd they shouldn't be allowed to breed much less vote, but unfortunately, there is no way to make that happen...

 

[Blackjack200]

You're assuming the job would otherwise pay minimum wage.

Trade crafts are getting slaughtered by illegals. Ask any independent what has happened to deck builders, roofers, framers, drywallers, painters who don't use illegals.

I have asked many. The are constantly underbid by companies who use illegals.

I mostly agree with you on the problem, what's the answer? Is it really building a huge wall between Mexico and the US? What about the people who have already established themselves with families? Do we deport them?

 

[K1052]

I mostly agree with you on the problem, what's the answer? Is it really building a huge wall between Mexico and the US? What about the people who have already established themselves with families? Do we deport them?

The incentives have to be removed. A wall is not required.

Issue work permits to the ones already here with a reasonable path to obtain green cards. Get them in the system, paying taxes, and under the protection of US law. Make the systemic hiring of illegals a federal crime carrying real time in a FPMITA facility and make the executives responsible (no plausible deniability).

End the drug war to stabilize mexico and remove interest in our market from less savory people who cross. Legalize and regulate across the board. Dump the money that is saved from enforcement and incarceration into drug treatment programs, mental health, counseling, long term assistance, etc.

 

[soundforbjt]

You're assuming the job would otherwise pay minimum wage.

Trade crafts are getting slaughtered by illegals. Ask any independent what has happened to deck builders, roofers, framers, drywallers, painters who don't use illegals.

I have asked many. The are constantly underbid by companies who use illegals.

Yet, why aren't all these companies turning in the guys they "know" that use illegals? That's the question I'd like answered. You think they'd be chomping at the bit at a chance to eliminate some of their competition.