GOP Debate #1

[theeedude]

Establishment Republicans are obsessed with vagina, it seems.

 

[Bitek]

Prominent sexist Erick Erickson says Donald Trump’s sexism has no place in the GOP (lol)

 

[WhipperSnapper]

The right wing establishment wants to turn it into something else because they are shitting their pants over Trump's popularity and message.

I wonder if the Republican establishment will try to have Trump assassinated. Heck, Trump could try to claim that the Establishment tried to assassinate him as a means of drumming up sympathy and a "forbidden fruit" type of attraction.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Establishment Republicans are obsessed with vagina, it seems.

Weren't there several Republican politicians who wanted to do sonic probes on women's vaginas prior to abortion?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Weren't there several Republican politicians who wanted to do sonic probes on women's vaginas prior to abortion?

And one of the tea party southern Senators that couldn't say the word vagina. I think he kept saying lady parts I'll look for a link later.

 

[trenchfoot]

After watching the first Gang Tackle of Trump Debate, I've come to realize that selecting the Repub nominee is exactly like dumping ten stinking turds in a toilet bowl and picking the one that floats over the others that sink.

It's akin to watching how the creme de la creme rises to to the top of a bottle of milk except in this particular case what's rising to the top is the creme de la crap.

It looks like that oddly shaped vanilla brownie named Trump is the only one in full flotation mode while the others are looking a bit low at the poop deck.

Or more like.......eh, nm. After awhile they all congeal and turn into a toilet bowl full of diarrhea anyway.

eeewwww.

 

[First]

Trump has no qualifications for Presidency. None. This turd hasn't earned a thing in his life based on all available public evidence. He inherited tens of millions that, had they been invested in an index fund and he just laid on his couch the past 40 years would have yielded him more liquid net worth than he has "earned" himself with his terrible real estate acumen since 1975. His original real estate holdings in his 20's all were made possible by his father's NY political connections. Hell, he likely didn't get into Penn's Wharton school on his own, having transferred from Fordham.

The guy isn't impressive. At all. Strike that, he's impressively loud and confident in himself. But he's the textbook definition of a spoiled adult, still just as impulsive as a teenager. To see a 70 year old act in such a way is quite sad, actually.

 

[theeedude]

To be fair, he is not a passive investor and actually created more value than anyone else in the Republican field.

 

[cwjerome]

Yes, playing the "war on women" card, by a woman, who had repeatedly called out liberals for using the "war on women" as a fake issue, is fair. It was a blatant a dn ham fisted hatchet job by fox to try and submit to the billionaire establishment overlords.

There is far more bullshit thst they could have called him on but they tried that to turn 50% of the country against him through damsel in distress labeling misogyny.

Had they called him on his tax policies, or hammered him on how is going to bring jobs back from china, sure, but this other bullshit?

That they are trying to defend rosy tells you something about how far they will go to try and end him. But it is backfiring.

I thought we're establishing the fact that he has no realistic policies, and, his followers don't give a real damn about policy anyway.. it's AAAAAANNNNNGERR!

They don't give a shit about Rosie, they care about what Trump thinks. Spin it how you like.

 

[cwjerome]

Just to be clear: I think Trump is a childish buffoon who would be a disaster as president (similar in a lot of ways to Berlusconi in Italy). That being said, I agree that Fox was very obviously targeting him. Their very first question was designed ONLY to alienate him and him alone. The people pulling the strings at Fox don't want Trump in the race.

Uh... why shouldn't he be alienated? Why shouldn't he be "targeted" for being an obvious tool? They very efficiently exposed him for what he is... and apparently it makes some of you uncomfortable.

 

[Balt]

I don't know if he is childish, or just a more "real" American. We are used to suave brands that are very polished but are so multi-faceted that they appeal to everybody and really nobody at the same time. People don't want to step on toes because you never know whose money you'll need soon, so you better just appeal to everybody and stay PC.

Is that really that great of a President? Somebody who just panders and panders and panders and never really gets much accomplished because he has pandered so much that he can't move at all?

Why don't people want to call illegals illegals? Have to pander to future voters.

Why don't people want to call out China for currency manipulation? Because they send tons of money into our political system.

Eh, I have to disagree. He's not straightforward, he's childish. People talk about his ego, but he's pure id. Whatever impulsive thing pops in his mind, he says it. Maybe you think that's a strength, but it's not. Rationality should rule over emotion, otherwise we might as well be cavemen.

Almost everyone has to self-edit themselves at least a little bit. Are most politicians too PC and too pandering? Yeah. Does that mean we should elect a guy who can't stop himself from flaming people on twitter like he's some random internet troll? No.

But regardless of how unfit I think he (along with many others) is to be president, Fox News was very unprofessional in the way they took up the Republican Party flag to single him out because he was unwilling to endorse the winner of the nomination.

 

[cwjerome]

The right wing establishment wants to turn it into something else because they are shitting their pants over Trump's popularity and message.

He's making them look stupid, so they want him gone and they can go back to bickering about their manufactured wedge issues and who loves Jesus and Israel the most.

There is as much delusion from you people here as there was on stage that night. There are a lot of PEOPLE on the right shitting their pants over Trump's popularity (which is a whole other story over polling results). You may think it's the establishment that's out for him because that makes a great talking point, but there's more than a majority that are against him. He's making the establishment look stupid? LOL for dayz... he's making himself look really stupid and within a couple months the dude will be a bad memory.

 

[cwjerome]

Establishment Republicans are obsessed with vagina, it seems.

Correction, ~93% of males are.

 

[cwjerome]

After watching the first Gang Tackle of Trump Debate, I've come to realize that selecting the Repub nominee is exactly like dumping ten stinking turds in a toilet bowl and picking the one that floats over the others that sink.

It's akin to watching how the creme de la creme rises to to the top of a bottle of milk except in this particular case what's rising to the top is the creme de la crap.

It looks like that oddly shaped vanilla brownie named Trump is the only one in full flotation mode while the others are looking a bit low at the poop deck.

Or more like.......eh, nm. After awhile they all congeal and turn into a toilet bowl full of diarrhea anyway.

eeewwww.

It seems someone has a fetish.

 

[Muse]

He left a lot of wiggle room in his response to that question. He could bail at anytime and say it is because he really respects who is selected or is left.

And he may, and for reasons of his own, I'll never know his perspective, but it wouldn't surprise me if he rides this thing all the way to the end and with many salvos, plot twists, both guns blazing, he's that kind of guy, and he won't appear the worse for it all. He'll be looking out for number one all the way, he's never going to come off as a party man.

 

[flexy]

Yes, playing the "war on women" card, by a woman, who had repeatedly called out liberals for using the "war on women" as a fake issue, is fair. It was a blatant a dn ham fisted hatchet job by fox to try and submit to the billionaire establishment overlords.

There is far more bullshit thst they could have called him on but they tried that to turn 50% of the country against him through damsel in distress labeling misogyny.

Had they called him on his tax policies, or hammered him on how is going to bring jobs back from china, sure, but this other bullshit?

That they are trying to defend rosy tells you something about how far they will go to try and end him. But it is backfiring.

I agree that this "move" was sort-of stupid and it was very obvious what was intended, but this is no surprise seeing that THE MEDIA in the US are at least as stupid as your "politicians".

See it like that: If a politician can use cheap emotional crap such as "Mexican rapists" or abortions for their campaigning, it's just fair that the media counters with the same, cheap tactics. Don't forget it's also about ratings..and emotional crap is ALWAYS good..this is one reason this debate had so many viewers.

BUT..the point is...it doesn't matter whether the host was a "bimbo" (yes, Trump did call her that)....a fricking political candidate and someone who fantasizes to become president should be able to take criticism and questions

This is the sole purpose of those debates. Candidates get asked tough questions, candidates face criticism.

Trump obviously has a big problem with that, he cannot face criticism AT ALL. If he gets asked something "not so convenient", he flips out!

He goes on a rage on twitter after the debate and calls the host an unprofessional bimbo etc. like the debate is about the host.

How professional IS HE? He is the anti-thesis of professional. I have seen trolls on forums acting more professional than that.

If he cannot handle tough or even "unfair" questions, he has no place in politics. He is not qualified to lead a country. Give him his reality show for his ridiculous, in fact embarrassing ego but for god's sake you do NOT want this moron become the leader of America unless you are not "all there" in your mind.

"blood from her whatever" <--- SERIOUSLY? What is this guy on? It was a televised political debate in America like many others before and he's raging like a 8 year old in World of Warcraft?

 

[Muse]

What I'm trying to say is that you can't really tell how much of it is Trump's achievement and how much was his starting point and the New York real estate market. With a real business tycoon, it's usually pretty easy to point to the specific brilliant things that they did. Think Jobs and Gates, Jack Welsh... what brilliant thing did Trump do?

Trump is a winner, he's a businessman/developer and if you want to get a sense of what he accomplished try reading "The Art of the Deal." It comes through clearly. He pretty consistently came in on time and under budget in an arena where nobody else did.

I really hope trump gets nominated for GOP.

This is just hard to imagine. Maybe if sufficient votes are committed by virtue of the primaries.

 

[trenchfoot]

It seems someone has a fetish.

Nah, I just get carried away with the verbiage-filled-theme-of-the-moment every once in awhile. Then my wifey will occasionally look over my shoulder as I'm posting, tsks tsks makes a snarky remark and proceeds to put me in my place by taking away my keyboard and cell phone while telling me to go take a stab at the house to-do list.

Back to earth I go.

 

[justoh]

Trump is the only one speaking out against political correctness. Clear winner.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Trump is the only one speaking out against political correctness. Clear winner.

Yea, because it's political correctness that is the #1 problem in America today.

Not the economy
Not wars
Not education
Not the diminishing middle class
Not corporate welfare
Not the constant invasion of citizen's privacy
Not the climate
Not medical and health issues
Not the homeless and hungry

Nope. It's the PC movement that matters most.

Maybe one of the candidates should run on the platform of Starbucks' coffee prices. Or ensuring that toilet paper is oriented correctly.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

But that was Bill Clinton...somebody who you can work with. Democrats have no such person, and have thoroughly abandoned center left politics for the extreme left.

Remember the question $10 in spending cuts for $1 in additional taxes. All candidates last cycle said no to that. You are being dishonest saying Democrats will not compromise. Both parties are guilty of it.

 

[Sunburn74]

Yea, because it's political correctness that is the #1 problem in America today.

Not the economy
Not wars
Not education
Not the diminishing middle class
Not corporate welfare
Not the constant invasion of citizen's privacy
Not the climate
Not medical and health issues
Not the homeless and hungry

Nope. It's the PC movement that matters most.

Maybe one of the candidates should run on the platform of Starbucks' coffee prices. Or ensuring that toilet paper is oriented correctly.

Have you not been watching? With Trump, clearly the number 1, 2, and 3 problems in this country are Mexicans and not any of the stuff you list above.

 

[MongGrel]

I don't know if he is childish, or just a more "real" American.

 

[First]

Where do you get that? And where do you get that his father had NY political connections? His father was a fairly modestly successful contractor, a guy who was out there on the jobs, a workaholic as I make out. Donald went out on the jobs with him as a youngster some. What he did in the real estate market in NY was pretty much done on his own. He started with close to nothing. Read "The Art of the Deal."

You've got to be joking. He inherited tens of millions at minimum. And by no stretch of the imagination was Donald Trump doing much of anything on "his own" that didn't originate from his father. This is verifiable fact. From Fred Trump's Wikipedia page:

In 1968 his 22-year-old son Donald Trump joined his company Trump Management Co., becoming president in 1974, and renaming it The Trump Organization in 1980. In the mid-1970s he lent his son money, allowing him to go into the real estate business in Manhattan, while he stuck to Brooklyn and Queens. "It was good for me," he later commented. "You know, being the son of somebody, it could have been competition to me. This way, I got Manhattan all to myself."[6]

Fred Trump also passed way with an inflation-adjusted fortune he created from nothing of over $500 million dollars. No definition of "modestly successful contractor" fits Fred Trump.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

You've got to be joking. He inherited tens of millions at minimum. And by no stretch of the imagination was Donald Trump doing much of anything on "his own" that didn't originate from his father. This is verifiable fact. From Fred Trump's Wikipedia page:



Fred Trump also passed way with an inflation-adjusted fortune he created from nothing of over $500 million dollars. No definition of "modestly successful contractor" fits Fred Trump.

Trump has still done well. I'm generalizing but had he invested his money over that time today he'd have about 2 billion, he currently has around 4 Billion maybe a lot more maybe a little less. Regardless he has done well with his money.